[A-man]

Good job 90 percent of the EPL are mid table sides then isn't it? Without him we would be presently sixth and out of the Cl.

Yes and no. If you just remove him United would probably be number 6, but he is suppose to the best striker in the team. If he wasn’t in the team there would be someone else with the potential of scoring 20+ EPL goals per season.

However yesterday I think he was a bit unlucky plus that goalkeeper performance was something extra.

 

[arnie_ni]

He's a far cry from strikers weve had in past.

Actually shocked he gets any praise at all.

He's just not good enough for where we want to be at

 

[Trizy]

He's a far cry from strikers weve had in past.

Actually shocked he gets any praise at all.

He's just not good enough for where we want to be at

Yup.

Like I said you know things are bad when he does the basics right (that strikers at the top level should do in their sleep) and it's considered a great performance for him.

 

[11101]

Good job 90 percent of the EPL are mid table sides then isn't it? Without him we would be presently sixth and out of the Cl.

It's the last 10% that wins you the league though. Plenty of good strikers can score plenty against mid table sides when they get the sort of service they will for a top club. What does Lukaku do for us that any decent striker wouldn't be able to do? We need a special player who can reliably finish the one chance they will get in the games where the service isn't forthcoming. Lukaku isn't that guy. A Sergio Aguero would have had a hattrick yesterday.

 

[TsuWave]

Dude is so underwhelming that him controlling a pass becomes cause to compliment him.

Lukaku is useful from time to time but long term he has no place here if we are serious about playing good football and challenging for big titles. The problem with Lukaku, and this is factual and verifiable, is that his goals always come in spurts/purple patches after extended draughts. He regularly goes in runs of +10 games without scoring then bags back to back braces against fodder.

that's another thing about Lukaku, besides his overall play being lacklustre, you can't even rely on him being prolific nor can you count on him in big games (PSG was an outlier), his record against top 6 opposition is awful.

in 2017 ESPN said this: "he has only scored 15 goals in 58 games against the 'big six' clubs" SOURCE

and last season reddit compiled a Goals against current top 6 since 2014/15 and these were Lukaku numbers: 5 goals in 35 games.

meanwhile:
Aguero had 19 goals in 27 games
Vardy was 15 in 33
Kane had 14 in 26
Mane had 13 in 31 (and he's not even a striker)
SOURCE

Overall, since he came to City, and as of 11/02/19, Aguero has 43 goals in 60 matches against City's top six rivals (United, Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea) SOURCE

that's the standard that we are competing against, and if we want to start challenging again, we have to get someone capable of similar but you guys are busy defending/championing a player that, quite simply, just isn't good enough. Misses clear cut chances and sentences like "he was phenomenal" can be found in this thread regarding his performance last night. Mad.

 

[Che Guevara]

I believe Lukaku has the talent, and at 25 he is still young and yet to hit his peak. However, his biggest problem right now is his weight which is affecting his mobility. Drogba was big but super fit, Lukaku is clearly overweight. The fitness coaches should deal with that.

 

[Holters]

I believe Lukaku has the talent, and at 25 he is still young and yet to hit his peak. However, his biggest problem right now is his weight which is affecting his mobility. Drogba was big but super fit, Lukaku is clearly overweight. The fitness coaches should deal with that.

Lukaku isn't overweight at all - did you see him shirtless a few matches ago?

Lukaku might be packing too much muscles now that Ole demands a lot of movement from his strikers, but Lukaku is clearly not overweight.

 

[Shark]

Lukaku isn't overweight at all - did you see him shirtless a few matches ago?

Lukaku might be packing too much muscles now that Ole demands a lot of movement from his strikers, but Lukaku is clearly not overweight.

Even when he looked bigger, he was never ever fat. It was all muscle.

 

[ash_86]

I'm starting to like him more off late. His contributions throughout the match has improved consistently in form of goals or assists or give and go's. He's on the way to becoming a complete striker . We need to remember that he's still 26 and still has room for improvements.

 

[Che Guevara]

Lukaku isn't overweight at all - did you see him shirtless a few matches ago?

Lukaku might be packing too much muscles now that Ole demands a lot of movement from his strikers, but Lukaku is clearly not overweight.

Overweight includes too much muscle. I never said he is obese or fat, which apparently is the impression you have of the term "overweight". Lukaku in his own words on MNF in December: "I struggle with the weight thing and maybe that's just because of how I was as a footballer." And on the same programme Gary Neville said this about Lukaku: "In the modern age when you have 55 staff supporting every team, nutritionists, strength and conditioning coaches, I struggle to understand how a player can be allowed to feel like he has too much muscle or is overweight. Particularly when he's fit." That's exactly what I mean, he IS overweight.

 

[Cheesy]

I believe Lukaku has the talent, and at 25 he is still young and yet to hit his peak. However, his biggest problem right now is his weight which is affecting his mobility. Drogba was big but super fit, Lukaku is clearly overweight. The fitness coaches should deal with that.

I dunno - 25 is generally young, but Lukaku's a player who's been playing regular football from an incredibly young age. That's a good thing to an extent, but in the past it's also lead to plenty of cases of players who peak early and then burn out afterwards. And he's certainly someone who's already matured physically. Personally I reckon he's just about at his peak, struggle to see him getting too much better than he is currently.

 

[Twingatz]

Dude is so underwhelming that him controlling a pass becomes cause to compliment him.

Lukaku is useful from time to time but long term he has no place here if we are serious about playing good football and challenging for big titles. The problem with Lukaku, and this is factual and verifiable, is that his goals always come in spurts/purple patches after extended draughts. He regularly goes in runs of +10 games without scoring then bags back to back braces against fodder.

that's another thing about Lukaku, besides his overall play being lacklustre, you can't even rely on him being prolific nor can you count on him in big games (PSG was an outlier), his record against top 6 opposition is awful.

in 2017 ESPN said this: "he has only scored 15 goals in 58 games against the 'big six' clubs" SOURCE

and last season reddit compiled a Goals against current top 6 since 2014/15 and these were Lukaku numbers: 5 goals in 35 games.

meanwhile:
Aguero had 19 goals in 27 games
Vardy was 15 in 33
Kane had 14 in 26
Mane had 13 in 31 (and he's not even a striker)
SOURCE

Overall, since he came to City, and as of 11/02/19, Aguero has 43 goals in 60 matches against City's top six rivals (United, Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea) SOURCE

that's the standard that we are competing against, and if we want to start challenging again, we have to get someone capable of similar but you guys are busy defending/championing a player that, quite simply, just isn't good enough. Misses clear cut chances and sentences like "he was phenomenal" can be found in this thread regarding his performance last night. Mad.

This is a preposterous comment. He is not a purple patch striker. His record overall can tell you that. He wouldn't score over 100 PL goals and be the 20th highest scoring striker in the league if that was the case, neither would he be the all time top scorer for his country.

In addition goals against the current top 6 alone isn't going to win you the league. You mention Vardy but what places has Leicester actually been in the League over those seasons, bar their miracle season in 2015/16? Same with Liverpool? Or Spurs? Since Lukaku has been with United we have been 2nd and with some good results in our remaining games we will probably be 4th as well, better positions than we have been since Moyes and much of that is thanks to Lukaku. So rather than saying that he isn't good enough, how about you stop being a jerk and get behind him?

 

[Twingatz]

It's the last 10% that wins you the league though. Plenty of good strikers can score plenty against mid table sides when they get the sort of service they will for a top club. What does Lukaku do for us that any decent striker wouldn't be able to do? We need a special player who can reliably finish the one chance they will get in the games where the service isn't forthcoming. Lukaku isn't that guy. A Sergio Aguero would have had a hattrick yesterday.

Why is it always Aguero? Aguero is the biggest anomaly striker and one of the greatest strikers in the Premier league ever. If that's the standard, you will be hard pressed to find a lot of strikers like him. Even Kane who is very good isn't as good as Aguero at his best. Lukaku isn't bad and his actual overall scoring record shows that.

 

[11101]

Why is it always Aguero? Aguero is the biggest anomaly striker and one of the greatest strikers in the Premier league ever. If that's the standard, you will be hard pressed to find a lot of strikers like him. Even Kane who is very good isn't as good as Aguero at his best. Lukaku isn't bad and his actual overall scoring record shows that.

Because Aguero is the standard, and we are Manchester United. We have always had, and should always have, at least one of the top two or three strikers in the league. Our top scorers from our PL winning sides:

Robin van Persie
Wayne Rooney
Dimitar Berbatov
Cristiano Ronaldo
Ruud van Nistelrooy
Teddy Sheringham
Dwight Yorke
Ole Gunnar Solksjaer
Eric Cantona
Mark Hughes

Every one of those can be mentioned in the same breath as Aguero. Note that while not all of them were prolific scorers, they were all brilliant footballers who could be the difference in the tightest games, just like Aguero. If we want to be the club we once were that is absolutely the standard we should aspire to.

 

[tomaldinho1]

This is a preposterous comment. He is not a purple patch striker. His record overall can tell you that. He wouldn't score over 100 PL goals and be the 20th highest scoring striker in the league if that was the case, neither would he be the all time top scorer for his country.

In addition goals against the current top 6 alone isn't going to win you the league. You mention Vardy but what places has Leicester actually been in the League over those seasons, bar their miracle season in 2015/16? Same with Liverpool? Or Spurs? Since Lukaku has been with United we have been 2nd and with some good results in our remaining games we will probably be 4th as well, better positions than we have been since Moyes and much of that is thanks to Lukaku. So rather than saying that he isn't good enough, how about you stop being a jerk and get behind him?

Bit ridiculous to say 'what has Vardy done, apart from win the league' - that's literally our goal.

Your comment is a good example of the mentality shift that's happening, you're praising us coming 2nd and that we might get 4th this season rather than simply accepting Lukaku has been disappointing since we signed him. The guy has really endeared himself to me recently with his attitude but he's not at the level we want. Best way to prove this is to make a list, being 100% honest with yourself, of who you'd like to play No 9 in our system from other PL teams. (This isn't including players like Salah or Hazard who could play there but are better wide players)

Now you might disagree with some of these but I can almost guarantee Lukaku wouldn't be in the top 3, likely top 5, of most people's lists. That shouldn't be what United is about.

1. Aguero
2. Kane
3. Auba
4. Firmino
5. Son
6. Lacazette
7. Vardy
8. Lukaku
9. Wilson
10. Richarlisson

 

[syrian_scholes]

I love Lukaku, I really do, but I agree that we can do better.

 

[goin4glory]

You may have an opinion on Lukaku, that’s fair enough but that doesn’t mean others have to agree with it! It is however very true that the critics are on full force when one game goes wrong but they never concede when things are right. That is not criticism that’s bias and it’s fine if you are biased that’s your deal but don’t discard others argument as straw man when you yourself don’t have the patience or regard to listen to other views that don’t align with you.

By your definition of consistency none of the players at United are good enough then isn’t it?

I haven't claimed or even implied people had to agree with my opinion. All I'm asking is that if someone wants to disagree that they accurrately represent the opposing arguments rather than straw man.

It's perfectly possible to give Lukaku credit for an individual performance and still recognise/believe he ultimately isn't good enough, which is where I stand. That isn't bias, I'd be willing to change my opinion if he developed a first touch/ability to dribble/hold the ball up and play in tight spaces, but I'm a realist and find all of that highly unlikely.

If I didn't have the patience I wouldn't be responding at all.

The issue isn't even with consistency, it's with a player's ceiling. Playing well DDG/Pogba are arguably the best in the world in their position, and a number of others are excellent too. Even playing well Lukaku is a 2nd rate striker compared to the likes of Kane/Lewandowski/Suarez/Aguero etc

 

[TsuWave]

This is a preposterous comment. He is not a purple patch striker. His record overall can tell you that. He wouldn't score over 100 PL goals and be the 20th highest scoring striker in the league if that was the case, neither would he be the all time top scorer for his country.

In addition goals against the current top 6 alone isn't going to win you the league. You mention Vardy but what places has Leicester actually been in the League over those seasons, bar their miracle season in 2015/16? Same with Liverpool? Or Spurs? Since Lukaku has been with United we have been 2nd and with some good results in our remaining games we will probably be 4th as well, better positions than we have been since Moyes and much of that is thanks to Lukaku. So rather than saying that he isn't good enough, how about you stop being a jerk and get behind him?

man said preposterous, you know. He scores goals but they come in patches that are followed by lengthy droughts. We are not about to rewrite this. It has been his history:

"Lukaku is a goal scorer but he is also an inconsistent one, prone to the kind of lengthy barren runs that he is enduring once again this season.

those who worked with and alongside Lukaku at Goodison Park would suggest that the peaks and troughs he is experiencing at United are no different than those he went through at Everton

Aside from his final season at Everton, when his longest run without a goal was four games, Lukaku regularly ploughed through lengthy periods when his form deserted him.

In 2013-14, he scored just once in 10 games during the middle part of the campaign, while the following year, he had a six-match goalless streak and had also only managed four goals by mid-November.

During the 2015-16 season, Lukaku went nine games without a goal for Everton and failed to score a single Premier League goal after March 5.

Ultimately, Lukaku has been through these periods before and come through them to enjoy prolific patches again, But United are discovering that this is what comes with Lukaku. He blows hot and cold"

source

that article is from October last year so it doesn't even include his latest and habitual +10 games goal drought.

Lukaku has been playing in the premier league since 2011, he has 243 prem appearances and 113 goals. that's an average of 14 goals a season which is not bad but its not great or amazing or anything, especially when you consider his all around play is pretty limited.

The point isn't that goals against top six win you the league alone, the point is that a club as big as United needs a striker that scores regularly and that can be counted upon in the biggest occasions, unfortunately, Lukaku is not that guy as his record shows.

You're emotional. i'm not a jerk for stating facts that can be verified, I've provided sources in my posts, and for knowing the limitations of a player. This whole "get behind a player" nonsense that you guys do here to get pats on the back about being "proper" supporters is comical to me. I don't believe in blind faith. When all is said and done Lukaku is an inconsistent striker with limited ability that cannot be relied upon in potentially season defining matches against top six teams.

 

[Brwned]

man said preposterous, you know. He scores goals but they come in patches that are followed by lengthy droughts. We are not about to rewrite this. It has been his history:



that article is from October last year so it doesn't even include his latest and habitual +10 games goal drought.

Lukaku has been playing in the premier league since 2011, he has 243 prem appearances and 113 goals. that's an average of 14 goals a season which is not bad but its not gror amazing or anything, especially when you consider his all around play is pretty limited.

The point isn't that goals against top six win you the league alone, the point is that a club as big as United needs a striker that scores regularly and that can be counted upon in the biggest occasions, unfortunately, Lukaku is not that guy as his record shows.

You're emotional. i'm not a jerk for stating facts that can be verified, I've provided sources in my posts, and for knowing the limitations of a player. This whole "get behind a player" nonsense that you guys do here to get pats on the back about being "proper" supporters is comical to me. I don't believe in blind faith. When all is said and done Lukaku is an inconsistent striker with limited ability that cannot be relied upon in potentially season defining matches against top six teams.

You're aware that our best strikers in the last two decades (and presumably always) have had precisely the same kind of dry patches? It's relatively exceptional for strikers not to....

I think we'd all agree Ruud was the most reliable, and here's his dry patches:

02/03 - Scored in 1 game in 8 between Dec 1 and Jan 8
03/04 - Scored in 1 game in 9 between Feb 21 and April 24
04/05 - Scored in 0 games in 8 between Feb 23 and April 29
05/06 - Scored in 1 game in 8 between Oct 18 and Nov 27

The only season he didn't manage such a run was in his first, truly exceptional, season. In other words, it's fecking hard to score goals all the time.

Maybe you're stating facts to fit your view rather than assessing them in context?

 

[TsuWave]

You're aware that our best strikers in the last two decades (and presumably always) have had precisely the same kind of dry patches? It's relatively exceptional for strikers not to....

I think we'd all agree Ruud was the most reliable, and here's his dry patches:

02/03 - Scored in 1 game in 8 between Dec 1 and Jan 8
03/04 - Scored in 1 game in 9 between Feb 21 and April 24
04/05 - Scored in 0 games in 8 between Feb 23 and April 29
05/06 - Scored in 1 game in 8 between Oct 18 and Nov 27

The only season he didn't manage such a run was in his first, truly exceptional, season. In other words, it's fecking hard to score goals all the time.

Maybe you're stating facts to fit your view rather than assessing them in context?

"when he left Everton for United prior to the last season, Lukaku had a choice of Old Trafford or former club Chelsea because he had hit 68 Premier League goals in 147 games over four seasons - a strike rate of a goal every 2.15 games.

At United, Lukaku is performing almost the same as he did at Everton, with a goal every 2.07 matches.

But at Old Trafford, when you are the United centre-forward, you are judged against the very best, so Lukaku's ratio doesn't look quite so impressive when measured against Ruud van Nistelrooy (1.58), Robin van Persie (1.79), though his numbers similar to those of Wayne Rooney (2.15) and Andy Cole (2.10), and not far behind Dwight Yorke (2.00)." source

the thing is, all them players offered a lot more than Lukaku does in all around play, work rate, assists etc. Rooney didn't even play as striker for significant parts of his career, and I have stressed that Lukaku's all around play is pretty lacklustre multiple times, if people choose to ignore context, that's not my damage.

as a side note, I have a suspicion that if I were to go check goals scored against title challengers, all them players fared better than Lukaku too.

he's just not the guy. has great interviews though.

 

[Zlatan 7]

I think his biggest problem is the size of his feet

 

[Brwned]

the thing is, all them players offered a lot more than Lukaku does in all around play, work rate, assists etc. Rooney didn't even play as striker for significant parts of his career, and I have stressed that Lukaku's all around play is pretty lacklustre multiple times, if people choose to ignore context, that's not my damage.

as a side note, I have a suspicion that if I were to go check goals scored against title challengers, all them players fared better than Lukaku too.

he's just not the guy. has great interviews though.

Yes it's always a good sign that your argument comes from the right place when you ignore any evidence contrary to your view, and start off on an entirely unrelated point.

 

[Tom Van Persie]

He's a far cry from strikers weve had in past.

Actually shocked he gets any praise at all.

He's just not good enough for where we want to be at

Rom scored two goals at Palace then another two last weekend (one which was a 90th minute winner) and two crucial goals in Paris mid week so that's six goals in 7 days and you're shocked he gets any praise at all?

 

[Loublaze]

He's a far cry from strikers weve had in past.

Actually shocked he gets any praise at all.

He's just not good enough for where we want to be at

Why so negative now? Im surprised to see posts like this in here after Lukaku's recent performances.

 

[TsuWave]

Yes it's always a good sign that your argument comes from the right place when you ignore any evidence contrary to your view, and start off on an entirely unrelated point.

Again, not my damage. read the posts man, it’s all there.

 

[Brwned]

Again, not my damage. read the posts man, it’s all there.

 

[antohan]

1. Aguero
2. Kane
3. Auba
4. Firmino
5. Son
6. Lacazette
7. Vardy
8. Lukaku
9. Wilson
10. Richarlisson

Rashford?

Either way, clear top twoand ranking the rest is much of a muchness.

I get the point mind, would give my left bollock to have Kane instead of Lukaku.

 

[TsuWave]

agenda before anything else. we move.

 

[criticalanalysis]

Just realised that Fred should have buried the cut back from Pogba, who was rightfully livid.

He was stretching for it but he just flaffed his (weaker) right leg at it.

Two inexcusable 'sitters' in the space of 5 seconds imo.

Quite simply a lack of concentration in those two moments.

 

[haram]

That first video. Facepalm. Martial, Rashford, Sanchez and even lingarrd bury that chance.

Score that and its a different game.

They score all their chances? Do some of you even think before posting?

 

[MadMike]

They score all their chances? Do some of you even think before posting?

It’s a moot point anyway, cause most of our other forwards don’t even have the movement or anticipation to be there in the first place when that ball comes in. They don’t have the predatorial instincts.

We all saw Rashford, at the end of that sweeping move, pointing to where he wants the ball and yet when it’s played there by Dalot... he’s caught by surprise and beaten to it by Kolasinac.

 

[Fluctuation0161]

Dude is so underwhelming that him controlling a pass becomes cause to compliment him.

Lukaku is useful from time to time but long term he has no place here if we are serious about playing good football and challenging for big titles. The problem with Lukaku, and this is factual and verifiable, is that his goals always come in spurts/purple patches after extended draughts. He regularly goes in runs of +10 games without scoring then bags back to back braces against fodder.

that's another thing about Lukaku, besides his overall play being lacklustre, you can't even rely on him being prolific nor can you count on him in big games (PSG was an outlier), his record against top 6 opposition is awful.

in 2017 ESPN said this: "he has only scored 15 goals in 58 games against the 'big six' clubs" SOURCE

and last season reddit compiled a Goals against current top 6 since 2014/15 and these were Lukaku numbers: 5 goals in 35 games.

meanwhile:
Aguero had 19 goals in 27 games
Vardy was 15 in 33
Kane had 14 in 26
Mane had 13 in 31 (and he's not even a striker)
SOURCE

Overall, since he came to City, and as of 11/02/19, Aguero has 43 goals in 60 matches against City's top six rivals (United, Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea) SOURCE

that's the standard that we are competing against, and if we want to start challenging again, we have to get someone capable of similar but you guys are busy defending/championing a player that, quite simply, just isn't good enough. Misses clear cut chances and sentences like "he was phenomenal" can be found in this thread regarding his performance last night. Mad.

I agree. Were on the same page but I'm (maybe overly) optimistic that Ole is the right manager to get the best out of him. He is a confidence player after all.

Problem we have is 2 strikers who lack world class consistency - Rashford due to age and Lukaku due to confidence. They're both top 4 strikers but are they the top level striker you need to win leagues and champions league consistently?

 

[kouroux]

Just realised that Fred should have buried the cut back from Pogba, who was rightfully livid.

He was stretching for it but he just flaffed his (weaker) right leg at it.

Two inexcusable 'sitters' in the space of 5 seconds imo.

Quite simply a lack of concentration in those two moments.

Completely wrong timing from him there. He was asleep and it pissed off Pogba like you said

 

[Brwned]

agenda before anything else. we move.

I'm amazed we paid as much as we did for Lukaku, hope we get someone better than him this summer and it's crystal clear that he will never be as good as van Persie, Rooney, van Nistelrooy, etc. at their best. So yes we have a different opinion but ultimately we're on the "same side". The big difference is I don't take sides in debates as irrelevant as this. I'm more interested in what drives the discussion.

So yes, the fact you read my factual criticism and subsequent confusion at your ignorance of it as an agenda, makes something very clear: there is an agenda here. If you can't see from reading your posts which direction that's coming from, well, all I can say is it's not unclear to everyone else.

Why is it you think that you couldn't bring yourself to say "oh, shit, you're right - even van Nistelrooy had frequent lean spells of similar degrees! What I really meant was...". Or beyond that, why is it you felt driven to take the position that it's not just that someone has a different opinion to you, it's that they don't understand, they must not have read my insightful points fully? I have one interpretation of it which, as you can see, I found pretty amusing.

It's beyond comprehension for me that someone would have an agenda for or against Lukaku. That's seriously something that occupies your mind? Sure, he's not as good as van Persie - my personal favourite, at this peak - but he's probably as good as Andy Cole. Maybe Solskjaer can see him and Rashford become as good as Yorke and Cole? Maybe we can build a midfield good enough to compensate for the lack of a truly elite strike force? I don't know.

I lean towards the simplest solution, like you - replacing Lukaku. I don't think the risks are large (in that he won't suddenly elevate his game like Dr Bruyne, Salah etc.) and as callous as it is, that's the situation he threw himself into. Standards are breathtakingly high for CL contenders. For me he has the best attitude in the squad but he doesn't have the tools to match it. I'd be happy for him to be part of a rotation though.

Maybe I have an "agenda" against people misusing evidence to suit their opinion, and failing to recognise that even when someone has given them new evidence to consider. That to me is a worthwhile agenda because it informs my wider view of the world, and the intent is sincere. Where I choose to follow that is of course much more questionable

 

[ivaldo]

It's the last 10% that wins you the league though. Plenty of good strikers can score plenty against mid table sides when they get the sort of service they will for a top club. What does Lukaku do for us that any decent striker wouldn't be able to do? We need a special player who can reliably finish the one chance they will get in the games where the service isn't forthcoming. Lukaku isn't that guy. A Sergio Aguero would have had a hattrick yesterday.

Definitely.

 

[GifLord]

Comparing Aguero to Lukaku
Yes players miss chances but there's so much more Aguero has over Lukaku it's not even worth the discussion. Sure Lukaku was great for the past 2 weeks but you cant ignore all the horseshit he produced since the start of the season.

 

[Litch]

This is a preposterous comment. He is not a purple patch striker. His record overall can tell you that. He wouldn't score over 100 PL goals and be the 20th highest scoring striker in the league if that was the case, neither would he be the all time top scorer for his country.

In addition goals against the current top 6 alone isn't going to win you the league. You mention Vardy but what places has Leicester actually been in the League over those seasons, bar their miracle season in 2015/16? Same with Liverpool? Or Spurs? Since Lukaku has been with United we have been 2nd and with some good results in our remaining games we will probably be 4th as well, better positions than we have been since Moyes and much of that is thanks to Lukaku. So rather than saying that he isn't good enough, how about you stop being a jerk and get behind him?

Spot on. Always find it amazing that people never post this crap when until we lose? I get the criticism of players based on the specifics of any game but when we win and he plays well (as he has done), grow a set and still post this shite. Nope the 'sheep' wait until the negativity starts, the vultures start circling and they all come out from behind their keyboards.

 

[11101]

Definitely.

The irony being he actually did score a hattrick in that game.

 

[arnie_ni]

Rom scored two goals at Palace then another two last weekend (one which was a 90th minute winner) and two crucial goals in Paris mid week so that's six goals in 7 days and you're shocked he gets any praise at all?

Why so negative now? Im surprised to see posts like this in here after Lukaku's recent performances.

6 goals in 3 games was brilliant and all and i even praised it, but overall he isn't on the level. He's no rvn cole/yorke, rooney that we've had, or kane, aguero etc that we compete against.

Id be happy for him to play the role he's be doing since ole took over, our 2ns striker, could come in at a pinch to relieve our main striker and score a few goals, probably more than a few, but nothing he's done so far convinces me he should be our main striker for 4 5 years.

He just isn't good enough.

But he has played well since coming back in.

Both can be true

 

[Litch]

Comparing Aguero to Lukaku
Yes players miss chances but there's so much more Aguero has over Lukaku it's not even worth the discussion. Sure Lukaku was great for the past 2 weeks but you cant ignore all the horseshit he produced since the start of the season.

Yep, like how if we are talking negatively about a player we don't rate, he was shite since 'the start of the season' where others we focus on pre Ole. Amazing people jumping up and down in front of their TV's when he's slotting in the goals against PSG (only scores against lesser teams) yet after Sunday, lose a game and he's only had a great two weeks.....

If people don't think he's good enough, post he's shite when he scores and we win too as the comments arent about his performance that game, they are about his ability in general.