In pre-season great chance vs LA - wasted shot straight at goalie when 1v1
Uefa Super Cup vs Real - great chance to score the equalizer - blasted it over the goal
Here's a comp of all his chances - not sitters -> CHANCES
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Uefa Super Cup vs Real - great chance to score the equalizer - blasted it over the goal
Here's a comp of all his chances - not sitters -> CHANCES
Not surprising at all. Loads of great strikers miss chances, Ofcourse most people watch the highlights of the other teams matches and assume that their striker is very clinical.
The music to this video is massively inapptopriate.
Also, couldn't you make a video like this for any other striker on the planet?
Exactly. Going by this thread, Augero and all never miss any chances, even in the last game vs Newcastle he missed one on one with GK and he couldn't even beat GK. Maybe last 5 years have fecked up few logics.
RVP always topped or among the top in big chances missed in league.
Missing the chances isn't the problem.
Not being close at all to scoring in big games is the problem.
Not being close at all to scoring in big games is the problem.
yes of course haha
Well, those teams create more chances than we do, they play the ball out from the back and also are a lot quicker in transition and attacking movement and support near the box. So those teams strikers can afford to miss some chances. It's a lot different in our case. Missing sitters in our case is a sure shot sign of a bad result or a scraping win specially after we go behind in big games.
So as a team we don't create enough chances, we have to blame the striker whose conversion rate is on par with other very good strikers? Maybe we are pointing finger at wrong player then.
A flat track bully and nothing more
Aguero, Kane, RVN, RVP, Henry, Rooney, Drogba..etc almost all big strikers in Premier League history has their best moments against big teams and always show up and score against them.
Whenever Lukaku start scoring against them he can be classified as a top striker. So far he's a good one, that's it. Great personality but step down from the elite. You can't be entering every big match not even expecting your big 75m striker to not even score.
He's currently scoring for fun against minnows while playing a support role at best in big games, so flat track bully isn't really a wrong name. He can't be compared to the elite who are always dangerous in big games.
Whenever Lukaku start scoring against them he can be classified as a top striker. So far he's a good one, that's it. Great personality but step down from the elite. You can't be entering every big match not even expecting your big 75m striker to not even score.
He's currently scoring for fun against minnows while playing a support role at best in big games, so flat track bully isn't really a wrong name. He can't be compared to the elite who are always dangerous in big games.
maybe its because we create less chances so the big missed chances are more costly. in other words, lukaku might have less big chances missed than kane last season, but his missed chances could have made up a greater percentage of the team overall's big chances.
eg. Team A creates 50 big chances, scores 30, misses 20, 11 of those are lukaku misses. Team B creates 100 big chances, scores 60, misses 40, 18 of those being kane's. Here Kane has missed a lower percentage of his team's big chances than Lukaku.
Anyway yeah I would be interested to know how many of Lukaku and Kane's big chances missed were in defeats or draws. It feels as though Kane is more clinical and wouldn't miss many 1 v 1s against keepers.
Yes, but its a complex problem which is mostly a result of having to play cautious football with lack of width and support in final third. Teams know and predict our style of play very well, mark lukaku tightly, force him in wide areas and then we lack creativity up front having to play direct without a better speed of transition.
If that was with us only I would have agreed.
However, he's exactly the same with Belgium, scoring for fun against minnows while playing a support role in big games.
He's a good striker, but till he improves his goals tally in big games, he can't be considered an elite yet.
Going by this thread you'd think he had an awful game Yesterday. Come to think of it it's the same every week. If he scores he's just a flat track bully. If he misses he's awful and he's costing us.
Any stats for penalties won or they are in the Big chances created ?
You have repeated the same point again and again, maybe I have missed the original post but did anyone say Lukaku is elite level striker?
If you think he's not then what is the fuss ? That's the main point of his critics anyway, then the whole discussion is meaningless from the start.
That open goal chance against Spurs was about as much of a sitter as you're gonna get at the top level. We score that and instead of losing 3-0 to Spurs we win the game.
We have a right to point fingers when he misses open chances in critical moments in the game, although if we point a finger at mourinho's tactics in games when he is isolated up front, it should'nt be classified as agenda against Mourinho. That's why its a complex problem. Though against Tott, the tactics were fine, he let Mourinho down.
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Don't think they are included in big chances created. PL site don't have track of penalties won. Should be interesting but not sure which site keeps track of that.
Don't think they are included in big chances created. PL site don't have track of penalties won. Should be interesting but not sure which site keeps track of that.
Belgium are the FIFA number 2 ranked side in the world. They have arguably the two best creative players in the world in their attacking midfield positions. That's why the minnows the regularly play are so over matched.
Most strikers do not experience this level of mismatch combined with the level of service Lukaku gets at international level.
What? So no one said he is elite level striker and you kept on posting "he isn't elite level", now you are saying discussion is meaningless from the start?
I don't remember anyone saying Lukaku is elite level striker, criticism is not about whether he is elite level, it's about his chance conversion, his goals or lack of against big teams.
This I agree on, he is not elite because he ain't a game changer himself.
Apparently repeating posts becomes only annoying when it's against someone's opinion. If I had written 10 posts saying he's great would you have commented ?
Yes what's the point of this discussion if you're actually agreeing that he's not an elite compared to the top names as Kane and Aguero who score more goals and are almost always present in big games ? That's the main point of his critics.
No one is saying he's a bad striker. He's a good one but that's it. It's inevitable we'll have to upgrade on him sooner or later.
Exactly. He scored 5 goals in his last 3 games and this thread is still about how he missed that chance against Spurs or in the super cup game vs Madrid
See, I don't have anything against anyone. You repeated "he isn't elite level" in every post, So out of curiosity I asked did anyone say he is elite level? If no one said that, then what are you arguing against?
Again did anyone argue Lukaku is as good or better than Kane or Aguero? No.
Is he getting undeserved criticism? Yes.
So what's your opinion on him that made you defend him if you actually think he's not a top striker ?
Just because I don't think he is as good as Kane doesn't mean I agree with every post made in this thread.
Someone asked for their PL stats once Kane played in PL, I posted them.
Someone said Lukaku misses way too many easy chances than Kane, I posted stats from official PL site to show it's not the case. Every striker misses big chances.
I asked about your opinion on him.
Once we start creating enough chances, that problem will be solved. We usually play very deep, hardly create chances in the big games but hope for a lucky punch. You could have a top form Ronaldo upfront and he wouldnt score
Very good striker who has improved his game a lot in last season. Gets so much undeserved criticism because as a team we don't create enough chances. He is a level below strikers like Kane, Aguero.
At times yes, but if only big games are concerned then No. He rarely takes his chances in crucial moments. If you are playing finals and semifinals or crunch matches I won't be confident that he will put it away because he fluffs with high pressure games. It's been happening since everton, continued last year and this year against Tottenham as well.
Yeah, he should score in big games. Shame we create one or two chances and rely on them way too much.
His missed chances against Spurs was very bad though, he should be doing lot better, especially after beating GK.
Rom is 25. He can become even better and thus "elite" (don't like the word).
I think that he has to improve on his movement. It's not poor but he ain't dynamic enough. Kane and even Aguero cover more ground than him. 9km per game is ok but maybe not enough, especially in the big games. When the intensity is high he does not look sufficiently involved. Couple that with Sanchez/Martial not covering much ground too and we have a problem.
I think that he has to improve on his movement. It's not poor but he ain't dynamic enough. Kane and even Aguero cover more ground than him. 9km per game is ok but maybe not enough, especially in the big games. When the intensity is high he does not look sufficiently involved. Couple that with Sanchez/Martial not covering much ground too and we have a problem.
That's his build though surely. I'm sceptical he can become significantly more dynamic.
Those are the moments where placement is the need of the hour than power and he goes for power most of the time than placement and finesse. Those are the qualities of a good finisher we had had over the years.
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