Yeah right.
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Yeah right.
Feel for the guy if he's lost somebody close to him, especially right before Christmas. Awful time for it to happen.
In saying that I didn't want us to sign him and nothing I have seen so far from him has changed my mind. He struggles with the basics at times i.e. controlling the ball. One of our worst transfers in the post Fergie era considering what we paid. For that money you expect World class ability. He's nowhere near that good.
In saying that I didn't want us to sign him and nothing I have seen so far from him has changed my mind. He struggles with the basics at times i.e. controlling the ball. One of our worst transfers in the post Fergie era considering what we paid. For that money you expect World class ability. He's nowhere near that good.
I don't think so, the point on Lukakus record at international level is very valid. On one hand he's got this brilliant record and is Belgiums all time record goal scorer. But if you look deeper to put some context into it, I'm sure you'll find he's scored a lot of goals against weaker nations and not a lot of goals against stronger nations. Similar to his club record. Which then gives problems. It doesn't mean the goals don't count but in the biggest games your forward isn't going to be scoring goals.
Also ignoring context and saying player A played all the time and player B got dropped, doesn't pull apart a point. Mertens might have played as a cf in a system for his club doesn't mean another manager sees him as a cf in his system. Jose never saw Martial as a cf for united where LVG did.
Not sure why people are arguing about his international form. He rattles goals in for fun, and has come off the back of a good World Cup.
I think that’s why he’s been so disappointing this year. I wasn’t his biggest fan last season, but was hoping he’d kick on after his good summer.
Ultimately I think we’re stuck with him for the forseeable. He’ll be on big wages, and probably has 3 and a half seasons on his on contract?
I think that’s why he’s been so disappointing this year. I wasn’t his biggest fan last season, but was hoping he’d kick on after his good summer.
Ultimately I think we’re stuck with him for the forseeable. He’ll be on big wages, and probably has 3 and a half seasons on his on contract?
Actual argument wasn't even about Lukaku and his goal scoring form. It's about him playing in attacking team, which some poster claimed he can't and will be kicked out when we play attacking football. Then was pointed out that Belgium plays attacking football and Lukaku plays almost every game.
I always though he was not used properly by Jose, I'm not the guy getting a dig to our former manager, but that's something I though since day one. He ain't Drogba, but he's a very good striker if used properly, so let's hope Ole manages to get him back on form.
Sad news about him missing two game though, I hope he is ok and gets through this difficult time.
Sad news about him missing two game though, I hope he is ok and gets through this difficult time.
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what's up with his compassionate leave? In the busiest time of the year?
Peter Crouch had a great international record too....maybe we missed a trick?
The elephant in the room when it comes to Lukaku bashers is the one-eyed nature of the critique. The point about scoring more against weaker teams holds for every single striker. That’s the entire basis for defining stronger and weaker teams. Stronger ones will negate scorers and concede fewer goals. And typically, they’ll silence the biggest goal threat as a targeted plan. It’s logic.
Kane struggles against United. Salah looks likes he’s killed by Young. Rooney scored most of his international goals against “minnows”. So why isn’t this argument used to belittle them? Because it’s silly, that’s why.
Lukaku has scored tons playing for weak WBA and Everton teams. And Belgium. Jose used him incorrectly. It’s nobody’s case that Lukaku is a Top 5 striker in the world or that he’s supremely skilled on the ball. But to say he’s a liability and can’t spearhead a good team with the right setup is blinkered, to put it mildly.
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This isn’t to say that he’ll fit what we need or that he’s my idea of a United striker. Just to say that he’s a good player for a team that sets up to optimize him. He’s a great goal scorer and to belittle his achievements is puerile.
Very different point. Follow the arguments and you’ll see that.
These things can't be helped but it's a really bad time to need a leave with everyone having to prove themselves in the starting 11 all over again. He isn't a favourite anymore. If he loses his spot this time he will find it difficult to get back in
France even won it with Guivarch in 98
France even won it with Guivarch in 98
So this is the reason why France won the world cup again.
Take forwards who don't score and win the world cup.
... You can’t choose when to have family tragedies, you know?
Are you taking the piss?
Are you even human?
Real creative licence there from the Mail calling it a headache and a setback.
Didn't see any information about any family tragedy - just that he got a few days off? Enlighten me, if he's had some family tragedy then I have no issue with a leave obviously.
You said yourself he's on "compassionate leave". What did you think that meant?
I believe his dad has died.
Let's not isolate him up front anymore. I think we should be playing him with a partner upfront .
Ole doesn't play long ball
How are you considering an example of one game for Salah or a single boggy team for Kane while they scored loads in other big games to justify Lukaku who is consistently pretty poor against any decent defender and mostly absent in big games ?
Ok. Let’s do it this way. I’m an engineer, a manager and a consultant so I like data. Relevant statistics. Now, goal tallies alone wouldn’t help - as players across teams and across styles can’t be compared on goals since that loses context.
So can you show me the stats for Lukaku’s goals against top teams as a % of the goals the teams he’s played for have scored in those games? Not saying I have them, mind. Asking if you are speaking based off such a number. If you find that the % isn’t bad or is comparable to others, that’s your answer. Lukaku played for WBA, Everton and Jose’s United. Each of these went into most “big” games hoping to keep it tight and nick a point with a 0-0. He therefore was feeding off scraps - and with us, not even regular scraps, but emaciated excuses for scraps.
It’s not a surprise to me therefore, that he has struggled to make his mark in such games. If you look it up though, my sense (gut feeling) is that Lukaku scored the bulk of goals for each team he played in. Except us this season, of course. He’s also got a healthy tally for the Belgium team.
I repeat - Lukaku may not be the complete striker (who is?) or your cup of tea, but some of the flak he gets here is ridiculous. Play him in properly and he’d score 30+ a season with ease. He almost got there for an Uber-defensive Jose last season FFS! And this when Jose was setting up trying to get him into a “Drogba role”. Imagine playing to his strengths and where that could get us!
Here's the best I have found, it dates to August 2018 so I guess before this season starts :
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...-better-record-against-six-Romelu-Lukaku.html
In short :
Kane : 37 big games, 18 goals.
Lukaku : 67 big games, 16 goals.
You can look at the total stats in the link.
Problem is, it's the same with Belgium as well, here's all the goals he scored for them :
How many of these are against top oppositions like Germany, Brazil..etc ? He has been the same for them as much as Everton or us. He's simply not a big game player, that's all. Not the first time we saw this kind of players. His great big games can be counted on the 2 hands.
My man G is selling pools in France now. Living la vida loca
Giroud, Eder, none for Spain, Charisteas. Shall I go on?
Spain did have David Villa up front for their world cup win.
They won more than the one tournament.
Probably off getting the turkey and ham
He was top scorer for the Euros in 2008 as well.
Are you just trolling now?
On a personal level, I hope the big man and his family are alright, and that whatever it is isn’t anything too serious, though when something like this comes up so acutely you always fear the worst. Glad that the club let him have his leave, and I do wish him all the best.
On the level of a football fan, I won’t miss him being in the team.
On the level of a football fan, I won’t miss him being in the team.
Spain had David Villa in WC 2010 and Torres in 2008. 2012 Euro is the one who fits your idea.
Yes, I should have said that I hope it is minor also. We need to see him back playing and back to his best.
Read this somewhere on Facebook also
True or not, I don’t think this is the right time to make jokes or digs about his lack of fitness etc.I hope it’s not true that his dad died because his season will go from bad to worse.
We should loan Zlatan back until the end of the season.
We should loan Zlatan back until the end of the season.
I know that. I named them as a team that won a tournament that fit the criteria for that reason bit I thought he was taking the piss by naming a tournament one after the other where they did have a striker.
These is no longer Mourinho's united. We'll play every Striker in our academy before bringing back Zlatan
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