@CA_vampire - what’s your vibe on this one?
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Here's to hoping Ole can find a good use for Lukaku. The guy's a pretty good finisher if there's a good team around him. Not United quality but if he can even play to his strengths I would take it right now.
If United can sign just one player it should be Icardi. I think the time is right to sell Lukaku. May be in part exchange with Icardi or sell him back to everton.
He's much better than he had been performing, but he should be embarrassed with some of those performances this season. I recall the 1st Valencia game where his movement was non-existant and there have been several other performances that have been comparably bad.
It's a fresh start for the whole team, but Ole still has to pick a first XI and I would have had Rom sitting it out as there are others more deserving.
He has the most to prove in my opinion (due to this seasons performances), so has a lot of work to put in. I believe he is smart enough and resilient enough to know that he can't rest on his laurels, so hopefully we will see a positive improvement.
It's a fresh start for the whole team, but Ole still has to pick a first XI and I would have had Rom sitting it out as there are others more deserving.
He has the most to prove in my opinion (due to this seasons performances), so has a lot of work to put in. I believe he is smart enough and resilient enough to know that he can't rest on his laurels, so hopefully we will see a positive improvement.
Unfortunately for him, I think hes finished at United.
I still rate him as a striker but I can see why some wouldn’t. He’s not pacey, he hadn’t got good hold up play or first touch and he isn’t clinical enough. He would score a ton for a smaller team but I reckon Solskjaer is going to prefer Rashford and Martial.
I still rate him as a striker but I can see why some wouldn’t. He’s not pacey, he hadn’t got good hold up play or first touch and he isn’t clinical enough. He would score a ton for a smaller team but I reckon Solskjaer is going to prefer Rashford and Martial.
No hard feeling but honestly I hope Martial and Rashford will set the world on fire in these 2 games so that Ole benches Lukaku for good when he's back.
Hopefully he's okay and it is just family related and not football related. Wish him all the best, he hasn't been himself this season.
How can anyone watch Lukaku and determines he just needs an attacking team ? In any attacking team he'll be out of the door thanks to his shite first touch and in ability to perform a simple one two thanks to his poor techcique. Does he strike anyone's book as someone who will be good in a team that trasmits the ball fast from leg to leg with 1 or 2 touches to break defenses ?
With Lukaku the definition of chances is a tap in or a header in the 6 yards area, that's why some's minds are clouded by the excuse of lack of chances for him. He doesn't get much thanks to his shite positioning, poor technique and being not clinical enough. For any other top striker watching their goals alone will make you realize the definition of "chances" for them is different, any ball that falls to Icardi or Kane around the box is considered a "chance" to score, something we'll never get with Lukaku, because he's a limited striker in every area, not a top one.
With Lukaku the definition of chances is a tap in or a header in the 6 yards area, that's why some's minds are clouded by the excuse of lack of chances for him. He doesn't get much thanks to his shite positioning, poor technique and being not clinical enough. For any other top striker watching their goals alone will make you realize the definition of "chances" for them is different, any ball that falls to Icardi or Kane around the box is considered a "chance" to score, something we'll never get with Lukaku, because he's a limited striker in every area, not a top one.
That should really be the other way around.
So trueThe thing with Lukaku is that he is simply not the one and only starting striker for a title winning side. He breaks up moves rather than actually creates them.
It it the same as it was at Chelsea though - if he wants to be the main man striker at a club he has to go down a proportionate level; however if he wants to be part of an attacking side that gets rotated/occasionaly starts/ occasionaly sits on the bench - then he is more than useful. Arguable one of the best strikers you could have to come off the bench even on off form.
It it the same as it was at Chelsea though - if he wants to be the main man striker at a club he has to go down a proportionate level; however if he wants to be part of an attacking side that gets rotated/occasionaly starts/ occasionaly sits on the bench - then he is more than useful. Arguable one of the best strikers you could have to come off the bench even on off form.
The best teams these days have a fluid front three with a striker who is both mobile and gifted technically; players like Aguero, Dybala, Suarez, Messi and so on.
Lukaku doesn't fit the bill. Even if he gets back to his best it still wont be good enough as he's far too limited for a club at this level. We're better off selling him and moving forward.
Lukaku doesn't fit the bill. Even if he gets back to his best it still wont be good enough as he's far too limited for a club at this level. We're better off selling him and moving forward.
Hopefully he's just family related and not football related and it is okay.
He literally is the first choice for the top rated international team in the world.
He can be way better than he has been playing this season. Mou dragged down everyone in the team and he is no exception. Is he ever going to be a world class striker? Probably not but he also isn't as awful as he looks right now.
What does that even mean ? He's playing for them, because, surprise, surprise, they don't have any other good alternative thanks to, you know, nationaliy problem ?
Which top club is going to take him one he leaves United ?
They have Batshuayi in reserves. Hell they can even play Mertens in the number 9 position as he's been played for Napoli under Sarri in that position.
So yes they've decent alternatives.
Saying Lukaku plays for Belgium because they don't have any other alternatives is extremely stupid btw. That guy is their all time top scorer for a reason. Just because you're biased against him doesn't mean you can change the facts.
Batshuyai is a terrible striker. I don't get how you're throwing him around, he's just a poacher you throw in last minutes if you want a goal, basically a downgraded version of Chicharito. Of course Lukaku is better than him, but that doesn't mean much considering the terrible competition, and they need Mertens in other position than the striker one. Lukaku is the only good Belgian striker available so using the national team is stupid.
The only fact is Lukaku has been a bigger flat track bully for Belgium than even for Everton. Almost all his goals for them came against shite oppositions and they play these teams a lot. He still doesn't score much or even look like getting chances to score against any decent oppositions they play. He sure will score a hattrick against Saudi or Gibraltar, doesn't mean much, and Belgium play these awful teams in their friendlies and qualifiers far more than the decent ones.
And you didn't replay my question, which big club is going to take him now ? Maybe you didn't answer because there's literally no one ?
I'm not aware that goals against average opposition don't count, maybe someone should tell that FIFA as they stupidly count goals against every international country.
And yes no top club will take him right now because he's in the worst form of his career but when we signed him, Chelsea also made a sizable offer for him.
Your initial point was that Lukaku wouldn't work in an attacking team, when I countered that with saying Belgium plays him, you changed the course of your argument by saying that there's no one apart from him, when I mentioned alternatives, you again changed the course of your argument by saying that he scores only against average opposition.
It's almost like you know you made a stupid point but is sticking to it for the sake of it, anyways keep on your quest on finding new ways to discredit Lukaku's International record. Good luck.
That's why they couldn't win the world cup. I am no expert but have been watching football since Italia 90, you simply cannot win a league title or any major competition with strikers like these.
I didn't say they shouldn't count, but putting things in their right place. He has always been known as a flat track bully for Everton who only scores a hattrick or brace against relegation fodders then goes missing against the decent opponents. He has been the same for Belgium. Using his record with Belgium doen't prove anything unknown about him.
The fact that you have thrown national team then mentioned Batshuyai as an alternative proves that you're the one clueless in this discussion tbh.
Try to understand the difference between national teams and clubs regarding number of matches played and presence of options for positions first before going on in this discussion.
French won with Giroud as their striker who didn't even had a shot on target.
Hey am I not the one who's changed their argument thrice in three posts but carry on.
Next you'll say something else to prove your stupid point.
I haven't changed my argument. Throwing national team and Batshuyai in it proves you're clueless, so it's really your problem.
Yeah because Giroud does things which Lukaku can never do, so even when he doesn't score, he is useful. But when a striker like Lukaku is not scoring, they become biggest liabilities. He has a habbit of not scoring when it matters most.
You tried to run from the Mertens argument by saying they need him in another position. From what I can remember, it was Mertens that dropped out the first eleven during the world cup and not Lukaku.
People blaming Lukaku for Belgium not winning the world cup is hilarious.
They usually play a 3 up front with Mertens, Lukaku and Hazard. They need Mertens on the wing because simply they don't have any other top wingers bar these 2.
So why did Mertens drop out the team during the world cup?
Why does he need to leave? Mourhinio going is like seeing the world sober after being drunk for so long.
Rom plays consistently well for Belgium, scores goals. Everton play to his strengths which is turning a defender and running the channel he scores goals. First season at Utd........ Scored goals. This season we either hoof the ball upto him (he has to be static for it to work) or try and play it to his feet (technically not his strength)
Pogba plays consistently well for France........ Played consistently well for Juve when played in his BEST position
I'm seeing a pattern here
Don't bother mate.
Fellaini forced himself into the team since the Japan match, Lukaku had a good group stage and Martinez treated Mertens as a winger option, seems logical me the one who will be dropped will be Mertens at this point, not that it means anything.
It means despite scoring a lot of goals for Napoli as the central forward he still couldn't take Lukaku's place up front. End of discussion.
So he's capable of playing good in an attacking team? But you said he'll be out of the door in an attacking team. How does that work?
You should dig even deeper. Fellaini forced his way in to the team so Mertens was dropped. Wonder why Mertens then wasn't played as CF benching Lukaku.
Belgium also have one more very good winger, Hazard's brother.
It means at this point Lukaku had a good group stage, supposedly in fine form and Fellaini forced himself into the team and you wanted to drop someone you won't drop the one in form and surely not Hazard or KDB. Logical but simply doesn't mean anything, unless you believe Mertens is worse than Lukaku ?
Scored 4 goals against Tunisia and Panama, so he did his usual flat track bully thing, but on paper he was in fine form.
More importantly you told him to not bother so why are you replaying again ? You should take the advice you give to other people.
Because it's hilarious watching you digging yourself into a bigger hole.
Then don't tell him not to bother.
All your points have been pulled apart, there is nothing left to say to be honest.
Hope Sanchez can take his spot when he returns. Think it would be better for the way I would like to see us play.
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