Have you seen the odds? He was 20 then, give him a break.
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Have you seen the odds? He was 20 then, give him a break.
Sad isn't it....
Well he didn't have world class players around him at Everton.
Odds were in favor of Belgium at the last two tournaments as well. Lukaku is pretty much the same player now as he was then.
Main reason I'm glad we got Morata instead. Even an upgrade on Diego Costa who was decent at holding it up. We can now play the ball up to our #9, have it stick with a great first touch, and launch our attacks. I'm not sure how good Lukaku would look in our current setup. The way Morata and Hazard link up with flicks and one-touch football, dummies and back heels I don't think would happen between Hazard and Lukaku.
Fellaini plays for Belgium too. When you have Eden Hazard and Kevin DeBruyne in your team it is a lot easier to score goals but I do not think Belgium are favourites to win anything. I was never convinced by Lukaku because his first touch is terrible and though he scored a lot of goals for Everton, he is not United quality. I feel Jose's biggest problem is that he is trying to play with wingers. He should use the best out of this team and that is to play a diamond with two up front and a player maker behind the front two and let the left and right midfield and the two full backs create the width when required.
So little service that he had to run to the corner and rinse two defenders to create something. Worked hard again, unfortunate on the set piece.
Not convinced he's doing better than Martial would of if we'd just persisted with him upfront.
It's boring blaming service. Great players can create something out of nothing.
Yes this unfortunate on the set piece is now becoming a habit for him. It is the 3rd time he has been involved in conceding a goal from a set piece. I think it is better than he not be given any marking to do in a set piece.
Yep. Harry Kane has already been doing that for 3 seasons. The guys creates soo many shooting opportunities off his own back. Lukaku cannot create anything on his own. Even Ruud who is one of the greatest finishers of all time had great ability to create half chances and goal scoring opportunities himself.
Even better than people give him credit for then.....makes it even more remarkable he scored so many goals
True and Like Fellaini he would have been better served by staying at a club that play to his strengths.
So they pull the odds out their backside do they or maybe the odds are shorter because there's is more chance of them winning it. Look I get people don't like him but to suggest he's the same player as 4 years ago just makes you sound stupid....
Rather than staying here then that's sooo full of strengths then? God how does he cope turning up for training with all those strengths around him? Second striker in the prem for goals and first for prem/assists....I say get rid cause he's clearly failing.
What exactly has he improved on over the past few years? It sure as hell isn't his technical ability. It can't be his non existent off the ball movement. Is it his finishing? Which has been mediocre this season. Is it his physicality? Where he gets outmuscled by smaller defenders?
Everton was his level.
All the flicks and tricks with us handicapped by Rom and your still behind us. Just Wow....
Like I said, stop it cause your making yourself sound stupid.....Like I said, I know people don't fancy him but to suggest he's not improved in 4 years, sorry don't bother responding cause that's on another level.
He wasn't good against Burnely but people are heavily overreacting here. By no means he was "that" dreadful either and I have criticized him a lot before myself.
Here’s an idea, leave him upfield when we are defending
15 goals in 24 games in the epl and cl. He's not the problem.
You're such a fecking Lukaku apologist/fanboy
You're such a fecking Lukaku apologist/fanboy
Yep as long as he wears a Utd shirt. Isn't that what fans do even when weren't winning?
Gets so much stock despite doing a lot more than Pogba at the moment. I’ve given him stick before but at the moment he’s just a scapegoat where as others seem untouchable.
Never really understood this to be honest, we want what is best for the club surely? Lukaku isn't what's best for the club he's largely been terrible for us. It's ok to admit that.
He actually had a good game at at Leicester though.
I agree, although I'm wondering if booing him in the stadium is really productive.
Discussions on messageboards as this one are something else of course. I hope he doesn't read these
In the end, I don't think Mourinho or the club will base their transfer policy on the opinion of the supporters. So in that sense, I don't know if breaking him down has any effect in getting any improvements.
You're such a fecking Lukaku apologist/fanboy
It is not being a 'fanboy' to suggest that the opinion Lukaku hasn't improved in 4 years is wrong.
So 10 in 19 league games isn't good enough for us?
I agree, although I'm wondering if booing him in the stadium is really productive.
Discussions on messageboards as this one are something else of course. I hope he doesn't read these
In the end, I don't think Mourinho or the club will base their transfer policy on the opinion of the supporters. So in that sense, I don't know if breaking him down has any effect in getting any improvements.
I wouldn't boo him either it doesn't help but my god I wish I could get in the dressing room with these players and tell them how far they are from the standard required. I sometimes feel like they aren't being told that they need to massively step up. Jose just seems a bit passive to me during his time here, not seeing the fire that makes him the manager he is.
He started off solid, there is no denying that. Since October, he has been awful. If you pay £80m for a striker you can't afford to have him to be so ineffective as he is, to have so many shortcomings, to be a defensive disaster. He's just not a good enough player it's as simple as that.
He's having a tough time and is low on confidence just like everyone else. The serial negativity around the fans is very telling as to why we aren't doing well. People are expecting perfection, he's a great goal scorer who's simply out of form.
People are expecting competency, something he's not capable of in a lot of actions on the pitch.
I was never particularly impressed watching him but when you looked at his record, it was very impressive, especially for a player not playing at a 'top' club.
So I thought he'd lay to rest this 'flat track bully' thing and in a better team, show even more.
Now, I think this is how it'll always be - there was always debate amongst Everton fans about his worth and it's going exactly the same way here, with the same arguments.
He'll start scoring again and end up with a good goal-scoring average but his all round game is relatively poor and there are long droughts where it's almost like playing with 10 men. That'll be enough for a lot of people but I can't see anything changing for those who doubt him.
So I thought he'd lay to rest this 'flat track bully' thing and in a better team, show even more.
Now, I think this is how it'll always be - there was always debate amongst Everton fans about his worth and it's going exactly the same way here, with the same arguments.
He'll start scoring again and end up with a good goal-scoring average but his all round game is relatively poor and there are long droughts where it's almost like playing with 10 men. That'll be enough for a lot of people but I can't see anything changing for those who doubt him.
So 10 in 19 games isn't good enough? I respect your opinion but even with his failings, if the other 10 players (expect DDG) were delivering the same stats equivalent to their positions, we would be a lot closer to City.
Was upset we didn't buy the other guy before, am more so now. Bah.
I actually think your not that far from the truth. I think his assists have been of an high quality but that said, I'm not sure why his barometer is now his all round game. I wonder if we reflected on the previous players, I don't remember talking about RVN all round game, his heading or hold up play, just how many goals he scored?
I actually don’t think it is for £80m. Kane and Salah are the bar, Lukaku is nowhere near that level. Yes, he needs service, but he’s pretty much incapable of doing anything on his own which again for me, is a big reason why he just doesn’t work here.
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