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7 years.
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- Appearances
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- Goals
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7 years.
Thought he was better in the second half, safer with the ball. Worked hard, will give him that.
Run like a maniac, do everything perfect... until that final pass or shot where he blew it. He has work rate, without that he'd be selling hot dogs outside the stadium.
*Shrek voice* DONKEY!!!
That's not a role.
I mean it is but it's not enough.Welbeck's role was to be a workhorse so our goalscorers could stay up the pitch and score. A defensive forward like Mandzukic.
Flat track bully indeed.
Did well to score the goal, I thought he was good overall. He simply does not get enough service when Pogba is not around. Shocking how he is actually one of our better players with the ball at his feet, says a lot about the rest of the squad.
First half decent cross and he finished it beautifully. Would score a bucketful in a decent attacking team.
Good finish for the goal.
Another shite performance otherwise though. He's so poor technically.
Another shite performance otherwise though. He's so poor technically.
*Shrek voice* DONKEY!!!
*Rooneys voice* LUKAKU!!!
We need to accept the fact of him being a flat track bully and move on. Hopefully he keeps scoring in such games to compensate for the big ones.
Are the current top 6 were also top 6 since 2014-15? No. So what's the point of choosing random teams when these top 6 teams also finished outside 6 and some other teams also finished within top 6.
Also why since 2014-15? In 2012-13 and 2013-14 he scored 10 goals against current top 6 but that doesn't fit your narrative so better leave them out isn't it.
Pleased for him to get the winning goal tonight. Rate him or not Big Rom ain’t going nowhere, so we should try get the best out of him. Can’t fault him on effort.
He badly needs a rest.. Was huffing and puffing by the end..
I wonder if Jose feels dropping him for a game even to give him rest is going to shatter his confidence,so that's why he's not even substituting him.. I reckon had we got the second goal today,Ibra would have replaced him by 75 mins..
I wonder if Jose feels dropping him for a game even to give him rest is going to shatter his confidence,so that's why he's not even substituting him.. I reckon had we got the second goal today,Ibra would have replaced him by 75 mins..
Is it my imagination or has he put a bit of timber on?
Nice header for the goal but wtf is the sulky arse act about afterwards?
Nice header for the goal but wtf is the sulky arse act about afterwards?
I get the feeling that his subdued celebration was down to him not being satisfied with his performances of late.
Once he gets scoring again, and gets the City nightmare out of his head, we'll see that swagger back.
On today's game, again, it was a mixed bag. Bits of nice link up play, but a bit clumsy with his hold up play and passing.
Glad he got his goal, though.
Once he gets scoring again, and gets the City nightmare out of his head, we'll see that swagger back.
On today's game, again, it was a mixed bag. Bits of nice link up play, but a bit clumsy with his hold up play and passing.
Glad he got his goal, though.
If were not planning on playing with a front two just get rid of him, he just doesn't have the game for a lone striker. His biggest issue in the sport is that his size makes people think he should be exactly what he isn't. The man is a poacher, starts there and ends there. Getting him touches on the ball outside the box is only going to end in tears. Also, it doesn't help that despite being a poacher he's far from lethal. He's an extremely one footed, lessor technical version of Cavani, which says alot.
Come on.
Was thinking the same thing re his weight. He's definitely not as fast as I thought he was - could have sworn he was rapid over short sprints at Everton.
His goal was nice today, but his contributions beside that were really hideous. Weather didn't help, mind, and he certainly wasn't the only one on the pitch whose performance suffered because of it.
Just to add unnecessary doom and gloom - who here thought Rooney would have a better scoring record in the league than him come mid-December? Both on 9, but Rooney's played less games.
He's also the youngest player on that list. Scored 4 last season whilst Zlatan scored 2. The again we scored 7 goals in those 10 matches (8 if you count Burnley instead of Arsenal) and this season we've got 5 in 5 (counting Arsenal as we haven't played Burnley).Are the current top 6 were also top 6 since 2014-15? No. So what's the point of choosing random teams when these top 6 teams also finished outside 6 and some other teams also finished within top 6.
Also why since 2014-15? In 2012-13 and 2013-14 he scored 10 goals against current top 6 but that doesn't fit your narrative so better leave them out isn't it.
In 15/16 we scored 10 in 10 and 6 of those goals were in 2 games.
This thread is so depressing , guy in his first season at the club has scored 9 in the league and 14 overall before Christmas and people are talking about getting rid of him.
Some thoughts about him:
* He's a tank. The pros about this are obvious: once he really starts going people are bulldozed and smashed. I like when some CBs try to get close and are knocked of the park. It's fun, really. The downside of this is that he reminds me of those Resident Evil 2 characters when you tried to control them and run past some zombies. It's ankward to turn, lacks agility and you end up stuck in a dead end... Seriously, just watch some random guy playing Resident Evil for the first time and you'll get some flashbacks of our Lukaku, with the ball at his feet, trying to turn and outrun people.
* A lot of his runs are never spotted by his teamates. You can see him pointing & running and guys like Mata, Lingard or Martial trying one touch more instead of releasing the ball. It fecks up a lot of his game (and our attacks). Yeah, I know that he should be more complete (oh, the myth of the Complete Striker), but, hell, why not try to play for his strenghts? Spot the run, release the ball and let him run through the CBs and score.
* I like him, I like when he scores and, for the love of god, don't compare him to Wellbeck. It's unfair. Danny can't score in a brothel.
* He's a tank. The pros about this are obvious: once he really starts going people are bulldozed and smashed. I like when some CBs try to get close and are knocked of the park. It's fun, really. The downside of this is that he reminds me of those Resident Evil 2 characters when you tried to control them and run past some zombies. It's ankward to turn, lacks agility and you end up stuck in a dead end... Seriously, just watch some random guy playing Resident Evil for the first time and you'll get some flashbacks of our Lukaku, with the ball at his feet, trying to turn and outrun people.
* A lot of his runs are never spotted by his teamates. You can see him pointing & running and guys like Mata, Lingard or Martial trying one touch more instead of releasing the ball. It fecks up a lot of his game (and our attacks). Yeah, I know that he should be more complete (oh, the myth of the Complete Striker), but, hell, why not try to play for his strenghts? Spot the run, release the ball and let him run through the CBs and score.
* I like him, I like when he scores and, for the love of god, don't compare him to Wellbeck. It's unfair. Danny can't score in a brothel.
I dont think people understand his large presence draws defenders close to him exposing space elsewhere. Mind you, he is pretty soft for his size. I wish he would improve his hold up play more and play almost as a false 9 at times. Hoping that improves. I dont want him to dribble like he does at times. Thats not the striker he is. He should use his attributes
Great to have him score again, thought it was a very good header and he was covered by two defenders...
Apart from that, well. He was certainly fired up and looking to perform, it's just strange to see how poor he is with the ball at his feet.
Apart from that, well. He was certainly fired up and looking to perform, it's just strange to see how poor he is with the ball at his feet.
I have noticed what he does which is wrong in my opinion is, He holds up the ball during our counter, then he turns and starts to run towards the defense during which he loses the ball most of the times as he either takes a heavy touch or the opposition defender nicks it from him.IMO he should hold it up for a bit longer and wait till our players(at least one of them) joins him, play a pass then move into the box.
I somehow feel that he thinks that he has to create as well as score, If he concentrates on scoring more he will get a bucket load of more goals here.
It's just his first season here and he is scoring some goals so he will only improve from here.I have High hopes from him.
I somehow feel that he thinks that he has to create as well as score, If he concentrates on scoring more he will get a bucket load of more goals here.
It's just his first season here and he is scoring some goals so he will only improve from here.I have High hopes from him.
He needs a rest, looks tired and not the same guy who we saw at the beginning of the season. With a relatively easier run of fixtures coming up, see no reason why we cannot use zlatan or rashford more often
Yeah, anyways this "he doesn't play well" must be the biggest pile of shit in football. I'm not talking about Lukaku, just about players in general. Same was said about Ronaldo and IIRC Hazard too.
Like few have mentioned, it also depends on overall quality of the team. If teams are about equal and not very attacking then the goal scoring chances will be rare, so obviously goal scoring record would be poor compared to vs smaller teams. To add to that, he played majority of his career at Everton and WBA, against big teams they create very little, so it's illogical to expect him to score lots of goals when playing for smaller teams.
I presume Jose is telling him to do that. I agree his acceleration is awful considering his pace, but a guy his size is never going to be the quickest off the mark or the most agile. He is best running at defenders at speed.
Problem is playing on the counter we need someone to hold the ball whilst others move up with them. It should be a number 10 who Lukaku can run off but other than him we have no-one who can do it, and Zlatan is still some way off the pace.
Agree with above.. He's not going to accelerate with the ball like Rashford or Martial.. Having a number 10 like Ozil,so that he can hold up play,pass it to him and then run at the defenders is a better style for him..
On a side note,maybe we need to take him off the defending corners duty.. Seems to be worried about what might happen after the city game,was nervy yesterday too..
On a side note,maybe we need to take him off the defending corners duty.. Seems to be worried about what might happen after the city game,was nervy yesterday too..
Superb header and worked his balls off, what more can be said each week. Weight of the club on his shoulders and he never wilts, nor gives in.
Good man, got us the 3 points after the team where clearly still feeling the aftershocks of the Sunday loss.
Again, this was a sports article, so not my narrative. That said, 35 games is plenty of evidence. It may just be that in that time, other top strikers like Kane had entered the fold so it allows an easy comparison. if you want to extend it then its still approx 15 goals in 47 which is still lower than the likes of Giroud.Are the current top 6 were also top 6 since 2014-15? No. So what's the point of choosing random teams when these top 6 teams also finished outside 6 and some other teams also finished within top 6.
I didn't choose the teams, it was copied from an article. That says, its perfectly easy to understand. The top 6 last season have been that twice in the last 3 seasons. It is evident that Chelsea, Liverpool, City, Spurs, United and Arsenal are the best 6 in the country consistently. If you don't that, it's over for you. Its like the "big 4" of old. You may get the odd pretender like Leicester, but it will typically return to normal.
Also why since 2014-15? In 2012-13 and 2013-14 he scored 10 goals against current top 6 but that doesn't fit your narrative so better leave them out isn't it.
He is now playing for Man Utd, the 2nd best team in the league and its no difference thus far. hopefully he grabs a few at home to Arsenal and maybe Chelsea, to shut up the doubters, yet I am an expect the worst hope for the best kinda guy.
It's not even about extending, why fixed top 6 instead of top 6 in that particular seasons? Liverpool finished 8th in Klopp's first season, Chelsea 10th, ManUtd 7th in Moyes season, why should these games matter when we are talking about top 6.
Also 15 in 47 is around 1 in 3 ratio, which is decent for a striker playing for much weaker teams.
Whats his record against the top 20?
This 1000 times, it is baffling we went for him. I never posted here at the time we bought him or before, but I always was confused how he racked his numbers because every time I watched him he reminded me of Heskey, Carrol, Benteke and all of them were large slow ass strikers who flattered to deceive. And guess who were fools enough to go for them !!!
It is depressing the type of players we are going for in the past couple of years, other then Pogba it really shows no ambitions at all and we always get fleeced with the amounts paid or end up getting some has-beens even if they were amazing at there golden years are shoadwos of what they were. Really depressing.
Romelu Lukaku's technique is simply not good enough. It really is as simple as that.
He is strong, fast and works hard. He certainly loves a goal which is why he tends to get a lot of "poacher" type goals. But his technique is pathetic.
This explains why he can't hold it up. It's why his ball control is inconsistent. It's why his finishing is sometimes poor. It's why against better players (i.e. top 6) completely nullify him. It's why that scuffed clearance against City will happen again.
Of the top 30 strikers in world football, I'd be amazed if Lukaku's technique is better than any of theirs. That's not to say he's a worse player than those guys because he clearly scores a lot of goals against second or third rate teams (which has value in itself). But in big games, on the biggest occasions, he will never ever be that man. That's just who he is, and frankly, who many of us knew he was before he signed for us.
He's the best option we have at the moment, and scoring against smaller teams is valuable especially in a title race, so I would certainly not bench him. But if we ever reach that point where we're knocking on the door of the worlds best, we'll need a different striker to take us to the next level
He is strong, fast and works hard. He certainly loves a goal which is why he tends to get a lot of "poacher" type goals. But his technique is pathetic.
This explains why he can't hold it up. It's why his ball control is inconsistent. It's why his finishing is sometimes poor. It's why against better players (i.e. top 6) completely nullify him. It's why that scuffed clearance against City will happen again.
Of the top 30 strikers in world football, I'd be amazed if Lukaku's technique is better than any of theirs. That's not to say he's a worse player than those guys because he clearly scores a lot of goals against second or third rate teams (which has value in itself). But in big games, on the biggest occasions, he will never ever be that man. That's just who he is, and frankly, who many of us knew he was before he signed for us.
He's the best option we have at the moment, and scoring against smaller teams is valuable especially in a title race, so I would certainly not bench him. But if we ever reach that point where we're knocking on the door of the worlds best, we'll need a different striker to take us to the next level
If you look at 2013-14 it was a freak season for him, he scored 6 goals against top 6 something he hasn't managed next 3 seasons combined and in 2012-13 3 of the 4 goals came in fergie's last match.Are the current top 6 were also top 6 since 2014-15? No. So what's the point of choosing random teams when these top 6 teams also finished outside 6 and some other teams also finished within top 6.
Also why since 2014-15? In 2012-13 and 2013-14 he scored 10 goals against current top 6 but that doesn't fit your narrative so better leave them out isn't it.
it was from the season ending 2015 which went
1 Chelsea (C) 38 26 9 3 73 32 +41 87 Qualification for the Champions League group stage
2 Manchester City 38 24 7 7 83 38 +45 79
3 Arsenal 38 22 9 7 71 36 +35 75
4 Manchester United 38 20 10 8 62 37 +25 70 Qualification for the Champions League play-off round
5 Tottenham Hotspur 38 19 7 12 58 53 +5 64 Qualification for the Europa League group stage[a]
6 Liverpool 38 18 8 12 52 48 +4 62
2016
1 Leicester City (C) 38 23 12 3 68 36 +32 81 Qualification for the Champions League group stage
2 Arsenal 38 20 11 7 65 36 +29 71
3 Tottenham Hotspur 38 19 13 6 69 35 +34 70
4 Manchester City 38 19 9 10 71 41 +30 66 Qualification for the Champions League play-off round
5 Manchester United 38 19 9 10 49 35 +14 66 Qualification for the Europa League group stage[a]
6 Southampton
2017
1 Chelsea (C) 38 30 3 5 85 33 +52 93 Qualification for the Champions League group stage
2 Tottenham Hotspur 38 26 8 4 86 26 +60 86
3 Manchester City 38 23 9 6 80 39 +41 78
4 Liverpool 38 22 10 6 78 42 +36 76 Qualification for the Champions League play-off round
5 Arsenal 38 23 6 9 77 44 +33 75 Qualification for the Europa League group stage[a]
6 Manchester United 38 18 15 5 54 29 +25 69
The general pattern is there is a superior mini league of 6 teams who regularly contend for 4th-1st and major cups where as the rest are just fillers. 2016 was an oddity where this time only a measly 4 of the 6 took the spots as Chelsea imploded whilst Liverpool changed managers. If you want to include Southampton and Leicester while removing Chelsea and Liverpool then add an extra 2 goals for goals vs Southampton and Leicester, whilst removing ones against Liverpool or Chelsea. That makes 7 in 35.
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