He's not a winger though, and hasn't excelled out wide.
It's a signing that would make no sense to me from any point of view other than a marketing one...
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He's not a winger though, and hasn't excelled out wide.
It's a signing that would make no sense to me from any point of view other than a marketing one...
Cavani can 'play on the wings' the same Wayne Rooney can play in midfield.
Van Persie used to play on the wing aswell. At the national team, we had Huntelaar (one of our better players) on the bench because van Gaal doesn't like strikers on the wing. He rather shoves Rooney in midfield than use Cavani as winger.
The Telegraph as him joining Inter Milan .What ever the rumour it is looking more than likely that RVP will leave this Summer.
two things- his injury was a blessing in disguise.
second- he didn't look happy yesterday.
second- he didn't look happy yesterday.
This. When the camera shot to him, he looked as if we were losing 6-0. I love the guy for what he did for us a couple of seasons ago, but I think it's time for him to leave now. Fantastic player, but isn't really suited for us now. Unless he's happy to play from the bench and occassionaly rotate with Rooney, then I think it's best for him to prolong his career elsewhere - and I really hope it's not Inter Milan. Still think he could do a job in the CL.
Fine, as long as people aren't going to bitch when he gets his rotational starts - that means either resting Rooney or having Rooney somewhere in midfield.
Personally, if it's that sort of role I'd rather have a younger developing striker for that role.
Anyone has a gif or sthing of him not being happy. Didnt notice that one.
It's a non issue..really.
Don’t think he’s leaving. He’s like the perfect player to be a back-up for Rooney in current setup, and we need another experienced striker. I’m sure he will understand that he doesn’t have the legs to be a starter week-in week-out.
Only way I see him leaving is if he wants to move. But I don’t think that’s the case.
Only way I see him leaving is if he wants to move. But I don’t think that’s the case.
We're going to have an additional 10-12 games next season, and he'd thrive in the current set up. We should keep him for another year at least. Rooney won't be able to play every game.
The main issue I had for the first half of the season, was trying to accommodate two strikers, which messed up the balance of the team. It's looking like we've settled on a 433 now (surprised it took Van Gaal so long to do that) and I think RvP would do well in the position Rooney is playing.
Main issue is whether he'd want to stay as a sub, because I wouldn't want to force Rooney deeper again.
Main issue is whether he'd want to stay as a sub, because I wouldn't want to force Rooney deeper again.
I think we will need his 10 goals next season, we need to sign 1 more striker though, the teams that usually win the league tend to have 3+ strikers in their teams and there is usually 1 veteran striker amongst them and another who can play multiple positions (RVP,Rooney).
I'm grateful for his services which won us a 20th title, but he's been below-par ever since and I personally wouldn't mind if he quietly left. I don't think that he has the hunger to be part of this side.
Well we have Wilson in that vein too, so a veteran and a rookie would be our two back ups. While I don't really care if RvP leaves and we get a replacement, we badly need new signings in other areas and I'd like to refrain from a massive overhaul as much as possible.
Let him go to a smallest club like Inter
There's nothing more annoying that judging a person's emotional state based on 3 seconds of camera time. As if anyone walks around with a huge smile on their face 24/7.
Camera snaps a player inwardly contemplating the merits of rice vs risotto for dinner that night? Said player is obviously unhappy and wants out.
Use him as the latest player to sweeten the pot for a Pogba return (Nani and Hernandez being the others). In fact, removing those three players from our wages would allow for each of Pogba, Hummels, and Depay's wages.
...because part-exchange deals always happen in real life, and not just on the back pages of the Daily Star...
It's a good point, but it was still a correct observation that he looked as if he had just drunk a liter of off milk. Maybe he's bored to be fair, being out for so long and seeing the team do well while he's away.But they could if genuinely pursued, as well as the fact that each of those player would add value to Juve.
Van Persie in Fergusons last ever game at old trafford. I would trade any player in our squad right now to get a peak Van Persie back. So good.
Don't write him off too early. Can easily get you 10-15 goals. Is already at 10 with some injuries.
I wouldnt sign Falcao or Cavani. Sign a younger potential Rooney replacement with a view in maybe 3 years time. I'd go in the season with 4 Strickers (maybe a loan for Wilson)
Rooney
RVP
Sign Future Rooney replacement
Wilson on loan
I wouldnt sign Falcao or Cavani. Sign a younger potential Rooney replacement with a view in maybe 3 years time. I'd go in the season with 4 Strickers (maybe a loan for Wilson)
Rooney
RVP
Sign Future Rooney replacement
Wilson on loan
According to Eurosport we offer him 7 million euros to leave the club in the summer
They are talking about a loyality clause, where we have to pay him 14 million euros if he stays till his contract is out. Anyone knows something about that, sounds like media bullshit for me. I also think we should keep him, get rid of Falcao, add Depay and maybe another young striker/wide attacker (but we can sign that player also 2016 when van Persies contract is out) and Rooney, van Persie, Wilson should be enough. He can still be a good joker and win us some points with his goals, he just shouldn't be a starter anymore.
They are talking about a loyality clause, where we have to pay him 14 million euros if he stays till his contract is out. Anyone knows something about that, sounds like media bullshit for me. I also think we should keep him, get rid of Falcao, add Depay and maybe another young striker/wide attacker (but we can sign that player also 2016 when van Persies contract is out) and Rooney, van Persie, Wilson should be enough. He can still be a good joker and win us some points with his goals, he just shouldn't be a starter anymore.
I'm not sure if anyone else has mentioned this, but having seen Nev's analysis of Rooney, I'd be very intrigued to watch again, some of RVPs performances earlier this season. Yes, he can slow it down when he actually gets on the ball, but when people were calling him lazy etc, was he just doing what Rooney was doing on Sunday? Occupying the defenders? It's not that far fetched, given that he knows Van Gaal's system so well, that he has been completely executing the role Louis wants from his forwards all season. So while us fans who don't know exactly what Louis wants are lamenting the death of RVP, perhaps Louis sees something completely differently, and playing him repeatedly wasn't mere bias?
An absolutely moronic non story. He was indeed that unhappy that he even brought his wife to the game. And I swear @Hernandez - BFA must be a body language expert by profession. I clearly remember him writing a novel about Di Maria not looking happy only a few weeks ago, too.
Jesus, all I said was that the camera caught him looking glum. Not once did I say "Looks sad = he wants to leave".
100% yes. Even when we were playing the 352 he understood his role perfectly - out of possession the two strikers split out wide, the #10 pushed up in between them and they became a three man first line of defence with van Persie defending the right wing. On the ball he was then occupying that space in the inside right as the target man and throughout the season whenever he played he was always the focal point of attack with Rooney and Falcao running off him. He got criticised for his lack of touches but now Neville's managed to turn that into a positive for Rooney, and recognised that it was a requirement of the role and is entirely dependent on the midfielders' use of the ball and nothing to do with his "desire to get on the ball", perhaps some people will look at it in a different light.
Neville's already did some of the work for you:
You said he was looking as if we were losing 6-0 which is just ridiculous.
Which was an exaggeration....I'm sorry if that didn't come across more obvious.
No prob and no need to say sorry to me, I am not RvP!
There were plenty of times when he wasn't though, and Van Gaal said as much how he was out of form and probably would've been dropped at various times had it not been for injuries to others... Before his injury though he was definitely playing a lot better and Van Gaal was saying how he was getting back to his best.
On the other hand he did tend to play with another striker, and neither were working properly. He was playing the role of a lone striker in a two man set up, which is completely different. Part of the problem was how he wasn't making enough off the ball runs or dragging the defenders around, which was on him since we didn't have wide players to do that.
That's a lie. Van Persie is literally always making runs. Anyone who doesn't have an agenda against RvP will tell you that.
Fans are really fickle
I doubt he will be sold to be frank. More likely, he will stay with us for another season, see his contract out and then get all the bonuses and sign for another club. May well depend on what happens to Chicha, Henriquez and Wilson. I think The latter three will get their chances before their faith is sealed.
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Even in Rooney's masterclass performance against City, he wasn't making many runs, it was more to do with the positions he was taking up and how he kept hassling their center backs.
Forgot about him thought he had been loaned with a deal in place for a permanent switch?
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