The number of times hes saved our skin the past few seasons is remarkable for fans to be saying they are glad he's injured.
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I was about to point that out...hopefully he recovers. RvP has been far from his best, but I really blame the system (one that only allows us to create a handful of chances per game) rather than the players at this point. Same for falcao really.
I'm glad he's injured and can't play today. He's been ruining our fast flowing football all season.
Yea we really tore Yeovil Town and QPR apart with fast flowing football without Van Persie.
lol
At least Falcao could show us what he's capable of.
I hope this is a wum attempt.
That's been non-existent, but I do agree van Persie has been a few levels below what we expect of him.
He's being sarcastic- the post was from half time. Look at the last post he made in the thread:
Just a bit of sarcasm.
Have to admit, I have slightly mixed emotions about this quick recovery. Obviously great he's available for selection but I'll be pissed if that means Falcao doesn't start.
In fact, I'd much rather see Falcao and Wilson up top for this particular fixture. I suspect Van Gaal may not be of the same opinion.
In fact, I'd much rather see Falcao and Wilson up top for this particular fixture. I suspect Van Gaal may not be of the same opinion.
i'm with you on that.
Yeah he shouldn't start this game.
Falcao and Wilson made some good plays together and created some chances when they were on the pitch together, I really want to see what they can do if they both start. Maybe Wilson's pace and Falcao's movement and awareness means this combo could potentially form the best partnership.
Falcao and Wilson made some good plays together and created some chances when they were on the pitch together, I really want to see what they can do if they both start. Maybe Wilson's pace and Falcao's movement and awareness means this combo could potentially form the best partnership.
Van Persie is a superior stiker to Falcao and he has performed better than the colombian this season. Fans just prefer him because he's a new shinny toy. When it comes to effectiveness RvP is the best choice. Just give him good service.
Yeovil. Can't really remember Falcao and Wilson creating something between each other against QPR either to be fair, more like Wilson doing everything he could to set up Falcao.
With all that being said, I wouldn't play RVP either, I'd give him a rest, just had a little knock so it's better to rest him.
Forgot about that game haha, still though, I would prefer to see some consistency in our front line now.
Great to have him back, hope he starts tomorrow.
Not sure about any of that. Regarding this season Van Persie has played a lot more so he's bound to have a couple of good 90 minutes under his belt that Falcao hasn't but he's also put in many more really poor performances. I don't give a toss about shiny toys I'm just bored of watching mediocre to crap displays from Van Persie and don't think Falcao has been given enough chances to prove he can play any better.
Falcao started 5 games in a row and he impressed LVG so much that he was dropped out of the squad for the Soton game. How many games is enough for people to stop using the "he didn't have any chances" card?
He is a nice guy and hard worker and I'm sure everybody wants him to make it here, but the truth is that his finishing is shit and he can't control the ball half the time.
His finishing hasn't been all that while he's been here, but unless he's had a Torres-esque sudden decline, which is unlikely, it's a bit of an exaggeration to say that his finishing is outright shit when he's proven himself in the past to be a top class striker.
Van Persie is better than Falcao but neither are playing at the standard we require. I'd much rather play Rooney and Wilson, or failing that, Rooney alone.
He's had less chances than Van Persie. That's for damn sure. Unlike Van Persie, he's trying to get used to a new team, in a new league. So he should be cut more, rather than less, slack after a few poor games.
That's one way of looking at it. But you can also say that Falcao is only here for 1 season and we have to pay a lot of money to keep him beyond that, so his performances should be more scrutinized than the performances of our other players.
I'd say a player with pedigree for the club and in the league should be cut more slack as we know what they're capable of.
That's a fair point but age isn't on his side and it's a really long time since he last put a run of decent performances together. He's had such a long run of bad form I can't see the harm in giving him some time out and seeing if Falcao can play himself into some form, given more than 5 games to do so.
Having said that, I wouldn't be entirely against dropping the pair of them.
Do you think Wilson has been playing up to the standard we expect, when he has been given chances? Because in the main, he's been pretty anonymous.
Just for the pace and balance in a strike force, really. Van Persie and Rooney never has and never will work as a pairing, and Falcao just seems like he'll never click.
Falcao's record shows that he's the superior goalscorer. Its still not really fair to compare them when RVP has been shoehorned into the team and Falcao has mostly played a bit part this season.
I don't think we can really judge either of them until we stop playing this awful brand of football. Van Persie is and always ha been a better player than Falcao though so it makes sense that he'll get more game time. Falcao doesnt look even close to fit enough yet which is both worrying and good reason for why Van Persie should play ahead of him.
I hope RVP is giving some time on the sidelines and we Falcao is given the chance to be the main striker.
Falcao's been mainly a bit shit (although slightly better in his last game?) but he does seem to have that knack of making things happen.
At the end of the day he's three years younger than Van Persie, was a sensational striker not all that long ago and has already proven once he can come back from an ACL repair and perform at the highest level.
Be a terrible shame if he's in and out of the team to a point where he never gets going and we sack him off in the summer then watch him get back to his best at another club. All so we can keep playing a 31 year old Van Persie who's looked a shadow of the player he once was for at least 18 months now.
With nobody else staking a decent claim to start every game up front I can't see the harm in keeping on starting Falcao and seeing if he can play his way into some fitness and form. Seems an awful waste of an opportunity (and money!) to do otherwise.
At the end of the day he's three years younger than Van Persie, was a sensational striker not all that long ago and has already proven once he can come back from an ACL repair and perform at the highest level.
Be a terrible shame if he's in and out of the team to a point where he never gets going and we sack him off in the summer then watch him get back to his best at another club. All so we can keep playing a 31 year old Van Persie who's looked a shadow of the player he once was for at least 18 months now.
With nobody else staking a decent claim to start every game up front I can't see the harm in keeping on starting Falcao and seeing if he can play his way into some fitness and form. Seems an awful waste of an opportunity (and money!) to do otherwise.
Van Persie at his best vs Falcao at his best is not even a contest. Yes he is probably more clinical but Van Persie in full flow is poetry in motion. His performance against Southamton was hands down the best performance a forward has given all season. He litrally played them on his own. Physically he hasn't declined, he showed that with his lung busting displays against Liverpool, Stoke home, Southampton, Newcastle. He is working and running harder than he's ever done. I just think he is a victim of a flawed system. Put him in Arsenal, Chelsea or City and he would still be one of the worlds best.
I love RVP, but lets be realistic here, Falcao is a world class forward and he's younger. He's not valued at 40M plus just because. Falcao has a better goalrate at his peak than Suarez and Torres had at Liverpool. If you're not an avid follower of La Liga then you obviously didn't see what he brought to Athletico Madrid. The man scored 41 in 51 for Porto and 52 in 68 for Athletico. RVP has never been that prolific in his career. Its not even about just being clinical. The man is like a bulldog and has scored some real sublime goals.
Falcao 52 in 68 (0.76) 2011-2013 and van Persie 56 in 76 (0.74) in the same period if you're talking in their respective leagues.
And 41 in 51 is a higher rate but that's in the Portugese League which is not as strong as Spain or England.
Say what? Pretty sure RVP scored around 50 goals in his last 60 Arsenal matches. 2nd most prolific goalscorer in the world over the calendar year 2011 (behind Ronaldo, above Messi) with a sickening 1.06 goals/game ratio while playing in arguably the strongest league in the world. He had runs like 20 goals in 25 caps for Holland, 18 goals in 19 starts for Arsenal once - and if it wasn;t for injuries... Way more assists than Falcao too.
Seriously, who cares that its in the Portuguese league? 41 in 51 is a great record regardless of what league it was achieved in. RVP has only ever had two 30 plus seasons, and in the remaining others the best he managed was 22 in a season. On average he's barely been a 20 goals a season striker.
You have to take RVP's injury record into account though. 30+ goal seasons would have been the norm, had he been fit more often for Arsenal.
Not discounting Falcao or anything though, just making a point.
Its a good point, but its also a moot point. Aguero has an outstanding goalrate despite being an injury prone player
RVP had an even worse injury record from what I remember.
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