Oh feck off. He stays injury free all season and just when everyone's back from injury him of all people goes out injured.
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At least it'll be one less striker to cram into the side.
All the forwards have struggled up top this season, the formation basically means they have to either feed off scraps or it's imperative they take their only chance.
The forwards are not getting the service they should be getting.
The forwards are not getting the service they should be getting.
we are playing 3 centre forwards together and they just cant play together with absolutely no support from the wings or through the middle. They cant create for themselves.
Fingers crossed for a return to 433 or the diamond.
Based on that season 5 years ago aye? RVP has been one of our better players in the past month. We create less chances than 16 other prem teams. It's diabolical the lack of service our strikers are getting just now.
If he is injured, we won't miss him at all in this system. Might even be a good thing if it forces Rooney further forward.
Poor performance but I can't help but wonder if we actually made a mistake in taking him off. He doesn't need many chances to score and you don't always have to play well to score a goal.
Yep, away to Southampton we created one chance and RVP scored 2 goals. That's how tough it's been for him recently. We just don't create anything, because half of the team are too slow and ponderous in possession.
[QUOTE="Orton, post: 16957671, member: 19613"]Based on that season 5 years ago aye? RVP has been one of our better players in the past month. We create less chances than 16 other prem teams. It's diabolical the lack of service our strikers are getting just now.[/QUOTE]
Based on this seasons form.
Based on this seasons form.
Why isn't Falcao afforded these excuses then? People have already written him off and he hasn't even played half the minutes RVP has.
I'm not writing Falcao off yet, he's suffering too. His hold up play and touch are currently way off though, and that's something RVP surpasses anyone in our team at.
Tbh glad he's injured, hopefully will mean Rooney out of midfield & back up front, where he should be!
We have midfield options now with Fellaini, Blind, Carrick, ADM, Mata, Fletcher & Herrera all available. No more excuses & please no more 352.
We have midfield options now with Fellaini, Blind, Carrick, ADM, Mata, Fletcher & Herrera all available. No more excuses & please no more 352.
Yea, or simply he'll throw Falcao or Wilson in Robin's place and feck all will change.
Maybe so, but just look at the Falcao thread and all the hate he's getting. As for RVP this season he's been slowing play down especially on counter attacks when he gets the ball by dwelling on it then just passing it back to the midfield/defence, i have to disagree that his hold up play has been good.
Maybe. I'll wait until United create more than one or two chances a game before coming to that opinion or wishing one of our own players be injured.
The slow play is all over the team right now, and their hesitancy on the ball. RVP actually played a couple of quality balls over to Di Maria today, and he's been forced to drop deep so many times because the defence and midfield just go sideways and and backwards, like they are allergic to playing down the middle. It's infuriating but it's obviously a problem deeper than the strikers themselves and more to do with the core of the team. Players out of position is certainly not helping, but the lack of footballing ability in some of our players and how they cope when getting closed down is unacceptable. We have no dynamism in the middle and it hurts. Di Maria is obviously the man to offer it, and Herrera is an attacking minded box to box midfielder. We could do with actually playing them in midfield.
It's better than fielding players that are 'favoured'.
I hope you are right, RVP on form is a brilliant striker but i don't think that player of 2 seasons ago is there anymore.
He scored 18 in 28 last season and we were playing worse then, and the season before when he fired us to the title we were hardly a side that oozed creativity, efficient yes but creative is debatable, there was a lot of individual brilliance when he made a lot of goals out of nothing then, that seems to have stopped.
Subbed due to an ankle injury apparently. To think we had a small glimmer of hope that our injuries were over and since our last match we lost RVP and Falcao 
Subbed due to an ankle injury apparently. To think we had a small glimmer of hope that our injuries were over and since our last match we lost RVP and Falcao
I don't think Falcao was injured, he was just left out.
I'm glad. Distasteful, perhaps, but I've had enough of seeing he and Rooney hold the team back. Get Rooney in his place, at least he'll trouble the defenders with a modicum of movement and pace.
I actually thought he was alright before getting subbed. It wasn't a great performance but he didn't get a lot of service. Won the ball back a few times and also had one of our best chances blocked.
He was alright. Ddn't get much service but when he had the ball he used it fairly well.
Being glad about his injury is just disgraceful.
Being glad about his injury is just disgraceful.
'glad he's injured' posts.
This place is horrible sometimes.
This place is horrible sometimes.
Happy he's injured? Oh come on Caf, FFS.
Whether RvP is fit or not, playing the 3-5-2 lies SOLELY at the door of the manager. It has nothing to do with strikers being fit or not.
We had the perssonel to go 4-4-2, 4-3-3, hell, even 6-4-0, but LvG chose the 3-5-2.
Let's not cross that line, celebrating an injury to our own.
Whether RvP is fit or not, playing the 3-5-2 lies SOLELY at the door of the manager. It has nothing to do with strikers being fit or not.
We had the perssonel to go 4-4-2, 4-3-3, hell, even 6-4-0, but LvG chose the 3-5-2.
Let's not cross that line, celebrating an injury to our own.
Thought he was poor, but then again, he got very little service The 352 (which is basically 5122) needs to die now. Neither Rooney nor Mata are CM's and it really shows against teams who know how to defend
I'm obvuously not pleased he's injured but am very close to not being bothered. Not bothered when our first choice striker all season gets injured. Shows what a horrible season we're having, no matter what the league table says.
Shame to hear about the injury, I think he has been performing decently in recent weeks. Really needs service and he just isn't getting it at the moment.
Terrible news with the injury. He is our only striker with a good first touch and hold up play.
He has sorely missed Carrick's and Gigg's ability to spot his runs and make those pin point passes to him from the midfield. My theory is that he is a good striker in the wrong team/system rather than him being on a decline.
He has sorely missed Carrick's and Gigg's ability to spot his runs and make those pin point passes to him from the midfield. My theory is that he is a good striker in the wrong team/system rather than him being on a decline.
How long is he out for? Will be a big miss. He's the only proper CF we have in the team and is superb with his back to goal.
In fairness, he's had the chances this season. Just not taken them which is not very unusual for him.
In fairness, he's had the chances this season. Just not taken them which is not very unusual for him.
Any update? It's been 48 hours.
"Glad he's injured" isn't quite fair. Glad LVG might be forced to try something different is fair enough. If it forces him to put Rooney up front or play Falcao on his own with an extra midfielder it could be a blessing in disguise.
No one ever passes to him, Mata 9/10 times passes sideways when RVP is running into the box, happened quite a few times against Southampton. We create about 2 chances a game so it's no wonder he hasn't scored much.
However earlier in the season he had loads of 1v1's he squandered.
However earlier in the season he had loads of 1v1's he squandered.
According to Squawka's stats (only have this season and 2 previous seasons), non-penalty shots/attempts inside the box conversion rate (goals scored from non-penalty shots inside the box): RVP 15.5% this season. Last season 17%. His first season at United 20%. Falcao is currently 18.7% (smallish sample due to limited mins on pitch). In his final season at Athletico he was at 23% (8 pens made a big difference to his goal tally). In France prior to his injury 24%.
Mata (takes very few shots inside the box) but converts at 25% this season, 23.5% last season. Rooney is at an incredible 38.8% this season, last season 16%, the previous season 22%.
Departed United strikers Welbeck 22.5% last season (10% in PL this season, much higher in the CL). Hernandez last season 22%. The previous season 27%.
Figures for star strikers: this season Diego Costa 30%. Harry Kane 28.6%. Ronaldo 32%. Last season Sturridge 26.6%. Suarez 23%.
Figures for seemingly ordinary strikers: Berahino 20% Ulloa 24% Charlie Austin 20% Cisse of Newcastle is interesting as his figures fluctuate wildly from astonishing to inept 38% this season 2.5% last 11% the season before.
Obviously there are several other aspects of a forwards play that are worth taking into consideration, not just their ability to finish chances. Kun Aguero for instance is converting at around 19% yet taking an incredible average 5 shots inside the box per match. Having said that, it is not clear from the data, what RVP is meant to be good at currently (staying fit and getting selected ?) as Hernandez's stats from last season are superior in terms of assists, completed passes and chances created. Falcao is doing well at providing assists for us; something which was almost totally absent from his game in his final season in Spain.
Shooting from outside the box is a low percentage play unless it is a direct free-kick or the keeper's sight is blocked by other players (Daley Blind and Rooney both scored this season as the keeper couldn't see the shot). This season RVP has taken 6 shots from outside the box (scoring 1) compared to 45 from inside the box.
Mata (takes very few shots inside the box) but converts at 25% this season, 23.5% last season. Rooney is at an incredible 38.8% this season, last season 16%, the previous season 22%.
Departed United strikers Welbeck 22.5% last season (10% in PL this season, much higher in the CL). Hernandez last season 22%. The previous season 27%.
Figures for star strikers: this season Diego Costa 30%. Harry Kane 28.6%. Ronaldo 32%. Last season Sturridge 26.6%. Suarez 23%.
Figures for seemingly ordinary strikers: Berahino 20% Ulloa 24% Charlie Austin 20% Cisse of Newcastle is interesting as his figures fluctuate wildly from astonishing to inept 38% this season 2.5% last 11% the season before.
Obviously there are several other aspects of a forwards play that are worth taking into consideration, not just their ability to finish chances. Kun Aguero for instance is converting at around 19% yet taking an incredible average 5 shots inside the box per match. Having said that, it is not clear from the data, what RVP is meant to be good at currently (staying fit and getting selected ?) as Hernandez's stats from last season are superior in terms of assists, completed passes and chances created. Falcao is doing well at providing assists for us; something which was almost totally absent from his game in his final season in Spain.
Shooting from outside the box is a low percentage play unless it is a direct free-kick or the keeper's sight is blocked by other players (Daley Blind and Rooney both scored this season as the keeper couldn't see the shot). This season RVP has taken 6 shots from outside the box (scoring 1) compared to 45 from inside the box.
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Guardian saying he's looks to be out for QPR but should be fit for Cambridge if van Gaal wants to play him.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/14/robin-van-persie-injury-miss-qpr-manchester-united
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/14/robin-van-persie-injury-miss-qpr-manchester-united
Hopefully he's fit for QPR.
Maybe van Gaal will use him as sub then. Remember last season when van Persie was rushed back by Moyes because 'what would you all think of me'? He ended up being out for another month around December/January when the fixtures were piling up.
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