I agree with this, hope to be proved wrong.
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I agree with this, hope to be proved wrong.
Agree, funnily enough I said same things you have to a friend as we were watching the match
Waste of a shirt. The only thing keeping him out the side is injury.
Good thing he wasn't made captain
Does sort of look like Rooney and Di Maria seem a bit hesitant in giving him the ball at times. Wouldn't blame them, he just looks so laboured and poor to react, especially in counter-attacks.
I've defended him a lot this season, but today was just completely awful. We were basically playing with 10 men for most of it, that's how uninvolved and passive he was. I thought he would have been fired up to play against his former team at the Emirates, but it made no difference. It's about time that we drop him from the starting 11, and play Mata or Wilson ahead of him (until Falcao gets fit).
Eh?
The same DiMaria that constantly look dangerous on the counter? the same DiMaria who set up one and should have scored another? The same DiMaria who's pace alone cause the Arse to play deeper?
RVP needs to be dropped... there's not really much else to say
Top #9's in the modern game don't rely purely on service, Ibra, Aguero, Costa and Falcao bust their ass to create chances for themselves, RvP is a passenger at this point.
Last season I felt sorry for him because he left Arsenal to join United under the impression that Ferguson was staying for a couple more years and he ended up being stuck with David Moyes. This season, feck him. Zero effort and doesn't look like he gives two shits. He could have been afforded some leeway if he was at least trying, but we are pretty much playing with 10 men when he's on the pitch. Wilson contributed more within 2 minutes of coming on than Van Persie did for 70 minutes.
It's time to bench RvP, either for Falcao or Eilson, whoever is fit and ready.
Yes let's make RVP a scapegoat, fans really are a fickle bunch.
He played today? Shit.. I didn't see him 
I wouldn't say he is being made a real scapegoat. Not really blaming him for too much, just saying how poor he has been and how much better we can do with what we currently have.
A scapegoat for what? We won the game. He played shite.
How is anyone making him a scapegoat? He's been poor and deserves to be dropped so people are pointing that out. Not like w're blaming him for everything that's wrong with the team....
He's shit at the moment and needs to be.dropped.
Go on, call it a "kneejerk" too.
Bench him.
Wilson showed more fight and energy in his cameo than RVP all game.
He needs to be given a start.
Maybe Di Maria and Rooney on either side of him.
He needs to be given a start.
Maybe Di Maria and Rooney on either side of him.
Not having that at all. He is not being scapegoated. We are simply recognizing the poor form that he is in.
There was a freekick in the first half by Di Maria from the right. Fellaini was roaming near the far post unmarked and I noticed he was in a good area to knock the ball back across goal. Next thing I see, RVP motioned Fellaini to switch with him in the crowd. Outcome? Ball ended up in Szczesny's hands near the far post with barely a challenge from RVP. "Why is he there if he is not going to bother?" is all I can think about.
He's more or less finished imo. I hope he proves me wrong, but at his age its unlikely.
Noticed that too. Didn't make much sense to me. Would rather have Fellaini come floating across near the back post than RvP.
I really think he need 2 weeks break away from football. And come back to the squad re energized. Him on current form is of no use to us.
I think he will come good against mid table teams like hull.I expect him to start scoring again.
He was given a break at the start of the season too. LvG even said something like "he's never been fitter".
His stats and performances are very similar to last season, where he was unhappy under Moyes. He has no excuses now with LvG here.
I don't get how he is constantly starting but we have no idea how well he does in training. A fit Falcao will hopefully see him benched.
If he stays this poor all season it will be interesting to see how LvG will react should a team come asking about him.
When does his contract run out?
I don't get how he is constantly starting but we have no idea how well he does in training. A fit Falcao will hopefully see him benched.
If he stays this poor all season it will be interesting to see how LvG will react should a team come asking about him.
When does his contract run out?
Nothing to be a scapegoat for. He's been shit all season pretty much. A few decent performances without looking like much of a threat, but today he had like 12 touches in ~75 minutes, and 3 of those were corners, one being the kick off. So 8 touches in open play. That's awful.
He's 31 I believe,, that's not -that- old, though i can see where you're coming from, Sherringham for example who lacked similar pace but made up for it with clever movement (sort of similar to RvP's style of game, mental awareness > raw pace/power) came back to have his best season at the age of 33-34 so I think that type of player can last longer than say.. a Walcott type at 31+ but I think with RvP it's just his body failing him more than anything, he was always fragile throughout his career.
Have to say there was very little he could have done against Arsenal given how we played. We didn't create any clear chances for him as there was almost no build up play in an area that he could seriously influence from us. A somewhat frustrating and thankless display littered with the same what if's from the previous games...
What if we played him in with the final ball on the 3 or 4 times he was a spare man unmarked on attacks. It's clearly a tactical ploy for him to be on the edge of play waiting for the final pass.
What if we hadn't played him at all and had chosen a midfielder or Wilson instead.
What if he wont recover that blistering spell he started his United career with ever again.
All in all, no change in the RVP debate yet but he cannot be blamed for that solely on the Arsenal game. The opportunity wasn't ever really there for him to change it. The pressure continue to mounts though...
What if we played him in with the final ball on the 3 or 4 times he was a spare man unmarked on attacks. It's clearly a tactical ploy for him to be on the edge of play waiting for the final pass.
What if we hadn't played him at all and had chosen a midfielder or Wilson instead.
What if he wont recover that blistering spell he started his United career with ever again.
All in all, no change in the RVP debate yet but he cannot be blamed for that solely on the Arsenal game. The opportunity wasn't ever really there for him to change it. The pressure continue to mounts though...
Just to put something straight, he's not playing badly because "he's not trying". This was an accusation levelled against him when Moyes was manager. LVG [his best mate] is now manager and he's gotten worse. He's in bad form or at a stretch, in decline. And for every managers, when your top players play like this, there's 2 ways to handle it, either play them into form [most managers go this route, believe it or not] or drop. He's not getting picked simply because he's best mate with LVG or that shit that is now being bandied about. As long as the player is showing commitment in training, he will continue to play atleast for a certain time.
When a player is playing as badly as he is it's impossible to see how he can make it back. He's good enough to adapt his game to compensation, but all his power and agility seems to have deserted him. He looks like he's running through sand while those around him are on grass. he look like he needs a long holiday, but we're only 3 months into the season.
Hopefully Falcao comes back in the next couple of games and RVP is dropped to the bench so he has something to prove. He has been a little drained of service recently but he should be doing better.
Really poor last night, is he done being a top player?
Typical he in injury free in his poorest season with us.
In pomp he was a stunning player and yes, the peformance against Chelsea was the best by a United striker this season, but in general he looks a shadow of the player he used to be. He was never quick, but he wasn't slow to things. He looks a little behind the play consistently, and his whole game seems to be worn out.
I think it's time to start Falcao or rooney uptop defending on whether the latter is fit. Our focal point being so off color is a problem.
I think it's time to start Falcao or rooney uptop defending on whether the latter is fit. Our focal point being so off color is a problem.
Play him into form in the reserves then. He has been pisspoor since DM took over. Nani would be benched after one poor game. Rvp isn´t benched after 1 and a half season. Really amazes me
His athleticism seems to have completely gone. He was never quick before, but he had great strength and could move the ball in ways which made him hard to tackle.
There was 1 point where he was through on goal with monreal chasing, and instead of trying to make him tackle, he just stopped and turned backwards
I am sorry but that just isn't good enough. He's playing on reputation right now, and I think he's had enough time to play into fitness.
There was 1 point where he was through on goal with monreal chasing, and instead of trying to make him tackle, he just stopped and turned backwards
I am sorry but that just isn't good enough. He's playing on reputation right now, and I think he's had enough time to play into fitness.
Next week we have two games. Saturday vs Hull and Tuesday vs Stoke. I think he is for sure dropped for one of those two matches, I hope the replacement can show what we are missing and RVP will get dropped until the Christmas period if he doesn't get back to form.
He clearly hasn't impressed much of late, but I do find it a bit hard to judge given that he is doing as little wrong as he is right. Yesterday, he didn't have enough ball to do anything. It is Van Gaal's job to work out how much of that is Persie's fault and how much is the rest of the team's.
The fact is, he is out furthest forward player. To slag him for not influencing a game in which we struggled to get out of our own half for large parts seems odd. If our team managed to dominate possession, he would have been a lot more involved, and then actually have an opportunity to play badly. Yesterday, he was irrelevant, but I think that's different to playing badly.
In any case, I'd like to see Falcao in for him as soon as he's ready.
The fact is, he is out furthest forward player. To slag him for not influencing a game in which we struggled to get out of our own half for large parts seems odd. If our team managed to dominate possession, he would have been a lot more involved, and then actually have an opportunity to play badly. Yesterday, he was irrelevant, but I think that's different to playing badly.
In any case, I'd like to see Falcao in for him as soon as he's ready.
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