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2014-15 Performances


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29
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10
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Utter shit today, his worst performance of the season by far and that's saying something given how invisible the majority have been

Given the goal scoring form Rooney is in at the moment he needs to be playing as our furthest forward and get Mata in as the no 10
 
Sadly we cant even drop him for Falcao.

If LVG was actually brave (and not biased) it would be Mata behind Rooney.
Exactly. Rooney should be playing up top, where he's clearly at his best (IMO.) Throw Mata in behind him, and we're sorted.
 
DROP. HIM.

I mean, we've all been saying it for three or four matches now, and the performances are only getting worse. Surely even Dutch solidarity must have limits.
 
He's awful at the moment. Drop his sorry a$$ and start Juan in midfield and put Rooney up front where he belongs.
 
Wow just seen the MotD analysis, 12 touches of the ball today and 3 of those was the corners he took. Absolutely dreadful these days, I haven't got a clue what's happened to him. In a game of this size he's had 9 outfield touches of the ball, that really is mind boggling.
 
He looked very sluggish again today. I hope this is just a lack of confidence and not the fact he's past it.
 
Herrera or Mata in with Rooney up top. RVP can be a very good option coming off the bench. Having fresh legs against a tiring defence will allow him to better show his technical brilliance.
 
Wow just seen the MotD analysis, 12 touches of the ball today and 3 of those was the corners he took. Absolutely dreadful these days, I haven't got a clue what's happened to him.

It must surely be a physical thing? Its like his body just won't do what he wants it too, very Torres-like.

Thats the only the explanation I can think of, I mean, its not like he's just woken up one day and lost all his footballing ability.
 
He was a liability today and has been for a while.
 
LVG is not pleased.

May be just another super sub striker in United if things will go this way for a bit more.
 
Passenger. Drop him already.

Amen. Hes playing on reputation alone right now and Wilson looks good enough so he's old enough right?

Two of the things we were promised when Van Gaal came in.

So far Van Gaal is happy to throw young defenders in at the deep end but seems more reserved about attackers, it took a while to bring Januzaj into the fold.

Maybe I'm drawing too much from it but combined with his transfers in the summer it says to me that Van Gaal's philosophy is very much based around his attacking players which is why he trusts established, experienced, players who maybe learn the thinking side of it a bit quicker.

Means nothing if their legs have gone though.
 
Amen. Hes playing on reputation alone right now and Wilson looks good enough so he's old enough right?

Two of the things we were promised when Van Gaal came in.

So far Van Gaal is happy to throw young defenders in at the deep end but seems more reserved about attackers, it took a while to bring Januzaj into the fold.

Maybe I'm drawing too much from it but combined with his transfers in the summer it says to me that Van Gaal's philosophy is very much based around his attacking players which is why he trusts established, experienced, players who maybe learn the thinking side of it a bit quicker.

Means nothing if their legs have gone though.
Agreed, as I said previously, Wilson did more in the 20 minutes he was on than RVP did in the entire game. It’s never good when you can’t remember a single thing a player did during a game.
 
He was pretty poor today but i just dont think he has the pace to play out on the right which is what it looks like he was asked to do. Given our other options its the best we had
 
He was a complete waste of space, easily our worst player out there. He barely broke into a run, he's barely broke into a run all season. He has to be benched now surely? Wilson looked so much better when he came on.
 
He must be doing amazing in training because at the end of each game, I always assume he will be dropped for the next game. To be fair I did expect him to play against Arsenal as it was his old team
 
Not being pleased despite the win over Arsenal.

Clear indication that something was fundamentally wrong with some of the players especially in the 1st half.
If today doesn’t show him that RVP needs dropped then nothing will, Wilson deserves his chance, if not him hopefully Falcao will be fit enough for the Hull game.
 
The thing that summed up his performance was when he held up the ball and Arteta completely bullied him off it.

Mikael fecking Arteta. He is hardly a "hard" man but he won it back with such ease and VP was powerless to stop him.
 
I think he's finished, honestly. He had those two good games against Spain and Australia in the World Cup and has gone downhill since then.

I'm hoping it's a nagging injury that he can get rid of but looking at his injury history I'm not optimistic.

What really looks concerning is that he isn't doing much in any area of the game now. If he wasn't getting enough service in past seasons, he would try to involve himself in other parts of the buildup. He doesn't seem to be doing even that very much. Still contributes a bit defensively but he's being paid to score goals.
 
If today doesn’t show him that RVP needs dropped then nothing will, Wilson deserves his chance, if not him hopefully Falcao will be fit enough for the Hull game.
I think we can slowly bet on preparing Wilson for a bigger journey with this club. Fergie would take that result with a smile... LVG was confident about himself being not satisfied at all.
 
Not true, we had a decent amount of chances but just kept missing the target. Di maria had a shot in the first half, Smalling had the glorious chance from a corner that he completely mis-hit his shot, Di Maria's shot at the end was also off target. It's not really a telling stat as a lot, or the vast majority of Arsenal's shots were from outside the box and not really threatening. It's not like we parked the bus and didn't even look to get forward. Apart from the first 30 minutes which was awful, we broke forward well and in numbers, just took the wrong option now and then but you can't blame that for RvP not getting involved. Wilson had 5 more touches in his 15/20 minutes that he played then Van Persie had in the entire game until he got subbed (18 for Wilson, 13 for RvP). RvP was just non existant today.

Agreed, as I said previously, Wilson did more in the 20 minutes he was on than RVP did in the entire game. It’s never good when you can’t remember a single thing a player did during a game.

This is exactly what I mean. Wilson came on fresh in a completely different situation, where Arsenal are 0-1 down and looked shaky opposed to them looking very good until the goal. So he comes on, has a couple of touches and then? How is that comparable to RVP's situation, I just don't see it?

Using the same logic, I could just as easily say Wilson didn't add anything in terms of being a goal threat either. Yet when he came on there was a lot more space than RVP had, so it should've been easier for Wilson.

A much more fair comparison is Di Maria vs. RVP. Both played as a striker today, both didn't get a shot on target the first 70 minutes or so, how is that not a telling stat? Di Maria only got a shot on goal and an assist after Arsenal were 0-1 down and it was a completely different game. First 70 minutes in a comparable situation, I feel Di Maria wasn't much more dangerous or better than RVP.

I do obviously agree with you that RVP was non-existent today. But if you look at the tactics, Di Maria played the Robben role, with the freedom to roam around more, coming into the ball. RVP was the highest man up the pitch in putting pressure on two central defenders, making his trademark diagonal runs. Both playing upfront the way that best suits their style.

Still don't see how it's RVP's fault that Arsenal were outplaying us until our lucky goal and got desperate after that. And I don't see how it is RVP's fault our midfield and defense didn't reach him. They did try to hoof a couple of balls to him I guess. But Di Maria also struggled until very late when Arsenal were already losing it, showing it wasn't easy playing up front. I already mentioned that with a little luck, RVP would've scored 2-0 after that brilliant Di Maria pass to Rooney who was flagged offside.

Aside from that I guess I can see where you are coming from, it's fair to expect more of Robin van Persie, I just don't think his situation is that bad and I don't feel he needs to be dropped per se. A fit Falcao is a brilliant option, but he seemed to click very good with RVP, so why not take a defender (Blackett/McNair) out and play with both RVP and Falcao up top as soon as that's possible?
 
I think he's finished as a top striker. He can still be useful in some matches though, and be a good option off the bench. However we can't afford to carry him anymore. It's sad but that is the way it has to be.
 
His move out wider today kinda shows LVG is not blind, his poor performances have not gone unnoticed and the next step will be to give Wilson or Janzaj his place for a game or two. Also Rooney scores his goals in bunches so it would be wise to let him play upfront for the next couple of matches.

Strangely there appears to be a reluctancy to pass him the ball, the interplay between Rooney and RVP was highlighted last season, and his lack of touches/passes between team mates this season is unusual to say the least.
 
Never was a better time to drop him and nobody would question it. We have the players to replace him and do a better job, so do it. I dont expect it though, LvG and his favourism towards RvP are there to see. I bet if he was a spaniard, he would already be on the bench.
 
Feels like an inevitable sharp decline at this point. there's no way he looks like he can get back to scoring 20/25+ goals a season unfortunatly.
 
I think he's finished as a top striker. He can still be useful in some matches though, and be a good option off the bench. However we can't afford to carry him anymore. It's sad but that is the way it has to be.

We lost 1 in the last 7 games with him playing up top, how the hell are we 'carrying him' and why can't we 'afford' that?

His move out wider today kinda shows LVG is not blind,

Err... We played a 3-5-2, meaning no wingers to chase down fullbacks. That's why he had to move out wide sometimes. The reason we played 3-5-2 was not because of RVP, but because we needed defensive balance.

Never was a better time to drop him and nobody would question it. We have the players to replace him and do a better job, so do it. I dont expect it though, LvG and his favourism towards RvP are there to see. I bet if he was a spaniard, he would already be on the bench.

I must admit this is true, RVP is playing because he is Dutch. It's got nothing to do with Rooney being a better #10 for us at the moment than Mata, and Wilson being 19 having played 5 official games for United, Falcao injured...

Feels like an inevitable sharp decline at this point. there's no way he looks like he can get back to scoring 20/25+ goals a season unfortunatly.

He looked excellent 6 days ago against Latvia, apparently that doesn't count because they were shite. Rooney being great against Scotland, who were pretty shite too does seem to count on here. If RVP scores 17 goals in the upcoming 26 league fixtures he's scoring 20 this season. Doesn't really seem that impossible to me? 50-50 for him to score at least 20 this season would be my guess.
 
Fitting him into the team right now makes no sense at all. We are literally creating formations that are specifically designed to have van Persie in them and it's not right when he has clearly not been good enough for a while. Chelsea goal aside he has not had a good moment this season at all from what I recall. Wilson would probably have more of an impact than him but the best solution would be to move Rooney up top with Mata supporting him.
 
Poor today but not surprising really considering how we set up to play, it wasn't the right game for m, should either have played Wilson or Herrera or moved Rooney up front. He will start the next game though because I don't see LVG dropping him and he should hVe more service.
 
I must admit this is true, RVP is playing because he is Dutch. It's got nothing to do with Rooney being a better #10 for us at the moment than Mata, and Wilson being 19 having played 5 official games for United, Falcao injured...

It has to do with Rooney being the better striker and Herrera or Mata taking the number 10 spot and just offering more you know. At least we wouldnt play with 10 men.
 
We lost 1 in the last 7 games with him playing up top, how the hell are we 'carrying him' and why can't we 'afford' that? ...

We are carrying him because his form is poor and he is slowing our attacks down considerably yet he continues to play. Yes we only lost one but I would be confident in saying we would have performed better without him in the team. We can't afford it because we are going to drop points in matches as a result of his lack of effort, poor defensive workrate, iffy finishing.
 
He looks so tired all the time. At one point he got the ball on the half way line and had the chance to run free into their half, but you could tell he just didn't have any gas left in the tank. Instead he passed to ADM who was off-side.
 
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