A last minute goal against Chelsea is all well and good, but it doesn't make up for the hours of suckage he's delivered this season. Our worst first team player this season by a huge distance.
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His complete lack of running and effort is just horrible to watch. Even when we're breaking forward he's just strolling.
He's turned into Berbatov.
He's turned into Berbatov.
Whoscored is showing he made 3 passes and 3 crosses.
Wilson made 10 passes.
Wilson pretty much matched him for all the defensive stats and dribbles etc.. too in 15+9 minutes.
http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/82...er-League-2014-2015-Arsenal-Manchester-United
Forgot he was playing.
He holds the ball for far too long, slowing us down, offers little movement, no pace, no energy. He doesn’t contribute in deeper areas either so really, what’s the point? Wilson was much better and he can run with the ball pretty fast so for me he should start over Robin.
Rubbish. Not enough service but that doesn't excuse his touch, movement and general play. He was just gash.
Well out of form and this has to end. Drop him.
Well out of form and this has to end. Drop him.
I wouldn't wish injury on anyone, but injury would be the only thing to keep him out of the team now. He's been awful week after week, and he plays nearly the whole game every time.
He's keeping Wilson out of the side. Or we could go one up top and bring Mata or Herrera back in. Either way, we have better options who he is obstructing.
I hope Falcao kills it in training and ousts him out. I just can't see any positives to his game right now.
He's keeping Wilson out of the side. Or we could go one up top and bring Mata or Herrera back in. Either way, we have better options who he is obstructing.
I hope Falcao kills it in training and ousts him out. I just can't see any positives to his game right now.
The best would be to give him a rest for a longer time, he was rushed back I think for the World Cup and has not had a proper break since, maybe that would do him good though I fear injuries + his age are the problems here and we have seen the best of him.
needs dropping, and fast.
Our worst player this season.
Berbatov was slow and tumescent, not lazy and uncaring. He still slotted them in like crazy and his touch was orgasmic. He won the golden boot while given 50% the chance and playing time any other player was given. I'd take van Persie playing even slower than Berba if it meant the same conversion rate.
People miss the fact that a striker has to SCORE. Not "work hard" or "run fast". He has to be able to put the bloody ball in the bloody net. Same people who think work rate is more important than conversion rate are the same people who'd take Welbeck over Falcao.
And RvP isn't.
Berbatov was slow and tumescent, not lazy and uncaring. He still slotted them in like crazy and his touch was orgasmic. He won the golden boot while given 50% the chance and playing time any other player was given. I'd take van Persie playing even slower than Berba if it meant the same conversion rate.
People miss the fact that a striker has to SCORE. Not "work hard" or "run fast". He has to be able to put the bloody ball in the bloody net. Same people who think work rate is more important than conversion rate are the same people who'd take Welbeck over Falcao.
And RvP isn't.
van Persie to retain his place after a stellar performance. Philosophy.
To be fair to RVP he is being asked to drop to the sides and do a lot of running when we haven't got the ball. Then when we do get it we are counter attacking its not really playing to his strengths! Much the same as Mata imo. Put him in the City team and he would be scoring for fun.
The only player who did absolutely f*ck all today. Very disappointing once again. He needs dropping for a few games to rest and get his head back in the game. I've been saying this for about 4/5 games now.
I wonder how poor he has to actually play to get dropped.
Had a good game vs. Latvia, but was poor today. Still don't think the service to him has been all that, but should be benched.
I know LvG is proud of his big balls, but trying to qualify for the CL while playing only 10 men is verging on over cockiness.
Probably would've scored some of Welbeck's chances too
Exactly like I've been saying last week, RVP is the end station. When we create feck all, he suffers the most. Was unlucky not to score too, obviously people have forgotten about Rooney being flagged offside for no reason, but that looked like a 100% RVP goal and then he would've been the hero.
His strike partner Di Maria didn't really have a better game, he had an easy assist, ran around a lot and fecked up the rest. I can see why people get annoyed with RVP and I'm not saying he's in brilliant form. Obviously a fit Falcao should be considered if RVP doesn't start scoring. But I think people are pretty unfair in their judgement.
Not that I really care today, because man what a great win, we finally had some things going for us for a change tonight. Wenger might be even more unlucky than David Moyes, such an incredible feeling
RvP would hardly be scoring for fun at any team in the world. He's been put clean through a number of times this season and missed them all.
Would rather have Herrera in there to help us control games or Mata for added creativity because we are effectively starting the match one player shot. Needs to slapped out of his slumber with a long spell on the bench.
Wilson contributed more in the short time he was on than RVP did all game. Just awful. Incapable of pressing the Arsenal defenders or holding the ball up. Needs dropped fast.
Definitely yes and some of these chances, you'd have expect a player of his level to score them. Also since his movement is as terrible as it gets, it's not easy to create chances for him.
Worst he has played in a United shirt, we desperately needed him to hold the ball a bit upfront but he did nothing
He should've been off at halftime and I thought after Arsenal began coming forward the game was crying out for Mata and his playmaking abilities. I guess it could've been even worse if he was allowed to stay on for the full 90 but there is nothing he's done to justify him getting into the lineup week after week. Wasted a perfectly good opportunity to set up Di Maria, too.
God he was shit.
We should try playing Herrera as a no. 10 and Rooney upfront on his own.
Think it'll give us a lot more balance in midfield and upfront.
We should try playing Herrera as a no. 10 and Rooney upfront on his own.
Think it'll give us a lot more balance in midfield and upfront.
No surprises at all. Not remotely surprised by his performance. Not surprised he stayed on so long despite being so anonymous. He did head clear a few corners; that's his primary function in the team at the moment.
It's so far beyond a joke now that I'm struggling to know what to say.
It's so far beyond a joke now that I'm struggling to know what to say.
We've got two games in three days from next Saturday.
I reckon he'll play against Hull but can't see him fitness-wise starting against Stoke on the Tuesday.
I reckon he'll play against Hull but can't see him fitness-wise starting against Stoke on the Tuesday.
Waste of a shirt at the moment.
Not really happening for Robin at the moment. Just seems a bit off the pace.
I'm a massive supporter of RvP.
But after seeing him today. For most of the game I didnt realise he was on the pitch.
While he was on the pitch it was like playing with 10 men.
I think its time to get Mata or Wilson a chance.
But after seeing him today. For most of the game I didnt realise he was on the pitch.
While he was on the pitch it was like playing with 10 men.
I think its time to get Mata or Wilson a chance.
He looks shot and, after 18 months, it's no longer a quiet spell. I'd try to get him off the payroll in January if possible.
What annoys me the most is that it's my boy Mata suffering from RVP starting.
If he starts against Hull at home, Giggs should have a real word with van Gaal.
If he starts against Hull at home, Giggs should have a real word with van Gaal.
hey...he's finished..has been ever since Fergie left...
Would be better as an impact sub at the moment.
absolute shite, apology of a performance
Wilson In !!!
Wilson In !!!
Not going to get any verbal beating from me as it's LvG picking him when he's clearly well off it, but unless something drastic happens it seems like his time is up.
Still worth every penny though for what he did in Fergie's last year, just sad it's over so soon.
Still worth every penny though for what he did in Fergie's last year, just sad it's over so soon.
I think the game just didnt pan out in a way that would suit him. We were absolutely awful going forward in the first half so it didnt matter if he made good runs or not, none of his teammates were able to pass a ball into him
In the 2nd half we had more success but Arsenal were throwing so many players forward that it was clear you could get success with counter attacks. RVP doesnt have the legs anymore for counterattacking from inside his own half, so that didnt suit him either.
What suits RVP is when we have good passers, finding time on the ball and able to pick out his good runs
In the 2nd half we had more success but Arsenal were throwing so many players forward that it was clear you could get success with counter attacks. RVP doesnt have the legs anymore for counterattacking from inside his own half, so that didnt suit him either.
What suits RVP is when we have good passers, finding time on the ball and able to pick out his good runs
One of the worst performance in a United shirt. He looks devoid of confidence and is really sluggish. When he attempted to run at players, he was falling over and losing the ball. Needs to improve or we should give Wilson a go.
Redcafe logic: our defense and midfield were not able to outplay Arsenal and create a chance. So let's blame a forward player for not getting involved.
Our first shot on target was Rooney´s goal ffs: ,,With the Gunners forced to chase as a result, Manchester United grabbed their second goal on the break five minutes from time as Wayne Rooney converted United's first shot on target."
We literally created feck all, zero, until Arsenal got so desperate that they starting pushing without thinking and left huge spaces at the back.
Our most attacking players were Rooney, Di Maria and RVP. All three world class players. None of them even got a shot on goal before the 85th minute.
He was as invisible as when we lost away to Olympiakos, where the pattern was the same, we got outplayed and RVP doesn't get involved. I just don't see how he should be blamed for that. Which doesn't mean he couldn't have done more, players can always do more.
Our first shot on target was Rooney´s goal ffs: ,,With the Gunners forced to chase as a result, Manchester United grabbed their second goal on the break five minutes from time as Wayne Rooney converted United's first shot on target."
We literally created feck all, zero, until Arsenal got so desperate that they starting pushing without thinking and left huge spaces at the back.
Our most attacking players were Rooney, Di Maria and RVP. All three world class players. None of them even got a shot on goal before the 85th minute.
He was as invisible as when we lost away to Olympiakos, where the pattern was the same, we got outplayed and RVP doesn't get involved. I just don't see how he should be blamed for that. Which doesn't mean he couldn't have done more, players can always do more.
Please just drop him. Just for one game at least.
Not true, we had a decent amount of chances but just kept missing the target. Di maria had a shot in the first half, Smalling had the glorious chance from a corner that he completely mis-hit his shot, Di Maria's shot at the end was also off target. It's not really a telling stat as a lot, or the vast majority of Arsenal's shots were from outside the box and not really threatening. It's not like we parked the bus and didn't even look to get forward. Apart from the first 30 minutes which was awful, we broke forward well and in numbers, just took the wrong option now and then but you can't blame that for RvP not getting involved. Wilson had 5 more touches in his 15/20 minutes that he played then Van Persie had in the entire game until he got subbed (18 for Wilson, 13 for RvP). RvP was just non existant today.
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