Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances

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"Well done, he's thirteen." :lol:

Or in RVP's case, "well done, he's six".


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Brilliant... Good to see he's as bigger twat on that show as I remember!

He used to be on another kids show around that time where he would come out of some school kids bedroom poster (not at all creepy) and be his best mate or something.

It was about as high quality acting as you might expect from Michael Owen...
 
It's interesting to see how technical these players really are. From watching RVP play, you wouldn't think he's that good at dribbling and freestyle that he showed against those kids, but I remember Solskjær playing one on one against a reporter, and his dribbling was spectacular.

Has anyone played against PL players? Are they as technical and fast as we (some of us at least) think they are?
 
I've played against some French players who play in CFA, which is like the fourth division, and the technical level of those players (midfielders or defenders) was incredible. Basically, when you spend your life playing football and training 4 times a week, it's impossible not to have that kind of skill. I think we'd be surprised at the technical level of most players, you'd expect Stoke players to be shite for example, I'm sure they'd be pretty impressive with a ball at their feet in a video. Probably not to the level of free-style football like what we saw in that RvP video, but their all round technical qualities.
 
I played 5-a-side with a guy who plays semi-pro, apparently he had a chance to be signed by a League 1 club but didn't take it out of loyalty for his club.

Suffice to say even then in our matches he was ridiculous, far better than anyone else, so I don't have a hard time believing that any professional footballer would develop that kind of skill and ball control. It's funny to see that and then see some of the terrible first touches/shots in games though, goes to show how much pressure there is and how important mentality is.
 
I played 5-a-side against former Huddersfield Town and Bury "legend" Ian Lawson when he was fat and retired. He didn't move around much, but his touch and shooting was miles ahead of everyone else.
 
Most players in the top flight can pull off tricks like this in training, even the likes of Heskey. The real reason why they can't do it in real matches is because the pace of the game is on a whole different level when playing against other professionals.
 
Most players in the top flight can pull off tricks like this in training, even the likes of Heskey. The real reason why they can't do it in real matches is because the pace of the game is on a whole different level when playing against other professionals.

You should go train with them.. the really can't. Not many have tricks like the RVP's of the world.

Always wondered what he had in the locker.. Arsenal's Soccer AM's 'Teamates' always had him down as the most skillful.
 
Not all professionals and semi-professionals will be as talented in terms of freestyle/Futsal type skills you saw in that vid, alot of it comes down to the individual themselves and more likely the position they play. Most wingers/forwards who like to dribble (not all) throughout any professional/Semi-Pro division will have excellent skills like you saw in that vid - even amatuers, that doesn't mean you wouldn't see that from a goalkeeper either but in general. So it is all about the individual... when it comes to matchday, very few can still play their natural game and get away with it, doing tricks on grass/ muddy pitch with studs/blades and in an intense game is a different kettle of fish... it is why someone like Ronaldinho stood out so much, he really was a guy who played the same as he would in a concrete cage and be able to replicate it on the biggest stages - shame he couldn't do it consistently.
 
Not all professionals and semi-professionals will be as talented in terms of freestyle/Futsal type skills you saw in that vid, alot of it comes down to the individual themselves and more likely the position they play. Most wingers/forwards who like to drivvle (not all) throughout any professional/Semi-Pro division will have excellent skills like you saw in that vid - even amatuers, that doesn't mean you wouldn't see that from a goalkeeper either but in general. So it is all about the individual... when it comes to matchday, very few can still play their natural game and get away with it, doing tricks on grass/ muddy pitch with studs/blades and in an intense game is a different kettle of fish... it is why someone like Ronaldinho stood out so much, he really was a guy who played the same as he would in a concrete cage and be able to replicate it on the biggest stages - shame he couldn't do it consistently.

Which is probably the reason even though he only did it for 4 years he will be an all time great.
 
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Brilliant... Good to see he's as bigger twat on that show as I remember!

He used to be on another kids show around that time where he would come out of some school kids bedroom poster (not at all creepy) and be his best mate or something.

It was about as high quality acting as you might expect from Michael Owen...

I remember that! :lol:
 
It's interesting to see how technical these players really are. From watching RVP play, you wouldn't think he's that good at dribbling and freestyle that he showed against those kids, but I remember Solskjær playing one on one against a reporter, and his dribbling was spectacular.

Has anyone played against PL players? Are they as technical and fast as we (some of us at least) think they are?

I know someone who used to go to school with Wes Brown. Whenever he played for the school team, he apparently used to dance around the other school's entire side then score for fun.

Wes Brown that is, not my mate.
 
It's expected, especially if you played football at a decent level consistenly from a very young age, even more so if you play football as a full-time job. No matter how bog standard of a player the likes of Wes Brown is/was, he will still stand out an absolute mile against people who play occasionally.

My 8 year old brother has been playing football for a Sunday league team since the age of 5 and has had two stints at Premier League academies (8 months and 3 months), unfortunately dropped from both - the difference between him and his mates while playing football at the local park or at school is huge, but put him on the field on Sunday against teams in his league and it's totally different. It's the same at every age group.
 
Yeah, I played with a guy who was two years younger in the school team. He absolutely took the piss at times (in the age bracket of 11-13 yo), went abroad at the age of 16 and now plays professionally (he also was captaining a side in a top 10 league in Europe before moving to another league last year). It was so obvious he was miles ahead of everyone else despite being 11 while most of us were 13/14.
 
Has anyone played against PL players? Are they as technical and fast as we (some of us at least) think they are?

Have you never been to a Premier League game? The speed that the game is played is only really appreciable when you see it live, even more so the closer to the pitch that you sit.

I used to play social kick about football after school with a guy who spent 10 years in United's academy. It was his touch, control and passing that was just miles ahead of anyone else who played. His consistency in controlling the ball perfectly always struck me. He was also able to do far better freestyle football than everyone, freestyle was the opposite of his match game too.
 
Lads lets not complicate things. What RVP done with the ball in that video was amazing. The difference between us and a professional is their ability to control the ball and spatial awareness. Basically you wouldn't find Beckham doing that in 'Camp Beckham'. Its not for everybody no matter what level you make it at.
 
It's expected, especially if you played football at a decent level consistenly from a very young age, even more so if you play football as a full-time job. No matter how bog standard of a player the likes of Wes Brown is/was, he will still stand out an absolute mile against people who play occasionally.

My 8 year old brother has been playing football for a Sunday league team since the age of 5 and has had two stints at Premier League academies (8 months and 3 months), unfortunately dropped from both - the difference between him and his mates while playing football at the local park or at school is huge, but put him on the field on Sunday against teams in his league and it's totally different. It's the same at every age group.

What are you talking about? Wes Brown was bog standard? fecking hell :lol:
 
Don't understand why the video is being criticised. Him and some mates totally rinse some kids with incredible skill which they make look like second nature. It's great to watch. They won't be rinsing professional defenders so easily because they are fellow professionals who are also very skilled footballers. I don't think it matters that they are kids. RVP and co would probably do the same thing against 20-somethings who were at an amateur level of football. It just shows the extreme gulf in skill and control between professionals and amateurs.
 
Don't understand why the video is being criticised. Him and some mates totally rinse some kids with incredible skill which they make look like second nature. It's great to watch. They won't be rinsing professional defenders so easily because they are fellow professionals who are also very skilled footballers. I don't think it matters that they are kids. RVP and co would probably do the same thing against 20-somethings who were at an amateur level of football. It just shows the extreme gulf in skill and control between professionals and amateurs.

if anything it should inspire the kids to try to produce what they saw first hand.
 
Before he did his knees repeatedly, Wes was a sensational young defender. There would've been nothing "bog standard" about him when he was in school.
 
What are you talking about? Wes Brown was bog standard? fecking hell :lol:
What's so funny about that? He was an average, but solid defender. Compare him to some of the absolute greats United have had in defence, there's no comparison, pure talent... which was my point.
 
What's so funny about that? He was an average, but solid defender. Compare him to some of the absolute greats United have had in defence, there's no comparison, pure talent... which was my point.

We're talking about top-flight professional footballers, right? In which case, he is barely standard - he'd have walked into the starting line up of most clubs.

At a different club he'd have been a great.. infact, without the injuries I think he could have been one of our best defenders - seriously.
 
What's so funny about that? He was an average, but solid defender. Compare him to some of the absolute greats United have had in defence, there's no comparison, pure talent... which was my point.

Brown had terrific talent and was ravaged by injuries unfortunately.
 
Don't understand why the video is being criticised. Him and some mates totally rinse some kids with incredible skill which they make look like second nature. It's great to watch. They won't be rinsing professional defenders so easily because they are fellow professionals who are also very skilled footballers. I don't think it matters that they are kids. RVP and co would probably do the same thing against 20-somethings who were at an amateur level of football. It just shows the extreme gulf in skill and control between professionals and amateurs.

great video.
nice to see the Dutchies giving back to their community like that.


A mate of mine who's family is involved in football said that the big difference between professional and amatuer football is the pace at which it's played. The amateur lads can do most of the stuff that the pros do but it's the speed at which it's done makes the difference. There's more to it than that obviously.
 
The striker reveals how he feared his £24m move to Old Trafford might have been scuppered
SIMON RICE WEDNESDAY 05 JUNE 2013


Robin van Persie has accused the directors at Arsenal of “playing games” over his future last summer.

The Netherlands international eventually secured a £24m transfer to Old Trafford but admits he feared the deal could have collapsed.

The 29-year-old says Manchester United was always his first choice, but with interest also shown by Manchester City and Juventus, getting the move he wanted was no certainty.

"It was [difficult] because it wasn’t only me who decided where I went to play," the Netherlands striker said in an interview with MUTV. "I also depended on my former club as well and how they saw it. And then of course you always have these games that the directors play.

"It's a bit like a rollercoaster. Some days it is looking good and other days it is worse. You don’t really know what to expect because things can change so quickly. It normally depends on the player and the two teams, but in my case, there were two other teams involved as well.

"One was City and the other one was Juventus. So it was a bit hectic but I always wanted this transfer from day one. Me and Sir Alex knew that it would be a bumpy road but I think that it shows that if you really want something then nothing is impossible. I am glad it happened."

Van Persie enjoyed a fine first season at Old Trafford, netting a total of 30 goals in all competitions that helped propel United to their 20th league title. In his interview with MUTV, the striker revealed the moment he learned he had secured the move he desired.

"I was in the coach and just about to play with Holland. There are no phones allowed in there but I just kept it on me just in case.

"When I heard a small buzz, I looked at it and saw a text from my agent that read, 'The deal is done, enjoy the game.'

"It was a big relief. I wasn’t fined for using my phone either! It was weird because they announced it on TV during the game, which I didn’t know – I thought it was only me who knew. From that moment, everything went so quickly.

"The next day, I had to come for my medical. I went by train from Brussels to London to get my bits and pieces and then on to Manchester. The next one-and-a-half days was very hectic. I had my first training session, and then two days later, we had to play Everton.

"When you go to high school and you are about 12 years old, you wake up early and are nervous about seeing your new class-mates. It was very similar, although I knew most of them.

"But it was like that. I came in, gave everyone a handshake and we had some jokes and some smiles, so it felt good from day one.
 
Just love that even now he feels like he's won the footballing lottery.
 
The jokes, I would have liked to hear them. I bet someone told him it was about time he came and got a PL title :)
 
A newbie asked me to post this in here. It's an interview Van Persie did with a Dutch football site.

Reflecting on the title:

"Luckily I was able to take some holidays in between. After winning the title, I had a week off which I used to to go on vacation and enjoy the title. I did that with my wife, as it's also her championship. For years she had a husband who sometimes came home grumpy because he was once again going to miss out on a championship. Now that I finally succeeded, she deserves to take part in celebrating the title."

“I knew the trip with Oranje was coming up, so I always kept it in mind. It goes without saying that you are still expected to perform here, despite the season being over. Having said that, I’ve still found some quiet moments where I’ve been able to reflect with joy on the title. Sometimes, at the most random moments, the images just flashed back into my head. I’d be sitting in the car and look at pictures on my phone of myself with the PL trophy and then I really got goosebump. What a fantastic feeling. I’ve wanted this title for so long that it still makes me emotional when I think back to it.”

On joining up with the national team for a friendly after a long season:

“Everything at Oranje is exactly the same as before an EC/WC qualifier. Even during the trainings it doesn’t seem like we’re practicing for a friendly. Just as always the training sessions are intense with high quality, and I like that. I prefer that to playing and training on half engine.

Michael Jordan said in one of his books that you always have to train well, regardless of circumstances. If you don’t, you train yourself to play to half of your strengths. That doesn’t get you anywhere as you push yourself backwards rather than forwards. I agree with his motto and therefore I don’t mind, after a long season, giving my all here.

Also, I always feel that as footballers we’re privileged- we have to focus 2, max 3 hours per day. If you compare that with other people, who have highly responsible jobs but need to work hard 10 hours a day- then you realize we’re rather privileged and have nothing to complain about. When you look at it that way then it’s not too much to ask for us to give it our all.”
 
I'm sorry, but is there anything at all to not love about him? What a man.
 
You go give your tainted love to the disloyal, mercenary cuntbag.
Let it go and let your former hero enjoy being a member in a winning club. We all want to have this feeling ;-)
Regarding the interview it was a joy to read. Among all spoild and overpaid egos its refreshing to see that their are still likable humans out there. Our Robin is a great fella :-)
 
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