Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances

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No idea why we brought him on. He was crap coming off the bench v Chelsea last time, why would it be any better this time with so little recovery time knowing his fitness?

He had two or three chances, he didn't miss them because of a lack of fitness.
 
Don't think his form has been that good since just after the turn of the year, we really missed Rooney today.
 
Last season he got a 14 day break from Wenger when the FA Cup was about to start with Arsenal playing leeds. Maybe the lack of rest is the reason?
 
Lost his finishing boots just as the business end of the season began. He's won us the league but cost us in both cups.

Nah, he saved us from going out of the FA Cup against West Ham.
 
I guess this is what happens when you set high standards, he'll be fine.
 
I love him to pieces, fantastic signing, and played a huge part in getting us 15 points clear, but what's happened in the last few weeks with his finishing? The rest of his game is still fine, touch, control, passing etc...but his finisihing has just gone to pot..that Madrid miss still affecting him?
 
For all the good work he's done this season he's had 2 huge misses in big cup games that have really cost us when it's mattered. Away to Madrid and that one today.

It might seem harsh criticism given the amount of goals he's scored but at a club like this that's just life.
 
Nah, he saved us from going out of the FA Cup against West Ham.

You have to do it for more than 1 round to win the cup, did great against West Ham but it was a costly miss today and one that he should of scored.
 
Needs a goal badly. That or Rooney coming back. Van Persie just isn't the same without him.
 
I love him to pieces, fantastic signing, and played a huge part in getting us 15 points clear, but what's happened in the last few weeks with his finishing? The rest of his game is still fine, touch, control, passing etc...but his finisihing has just gone to pot..that Madrid miss still affecting him?

When you think about it his form dipped similarly during the second half of the season when he was at Arsenal. It may just be that going full throttle from day 1 of the season he gradually tails off as the season comes to a close...

...I guess since Arsenal's season generally ends in spring Van Persie isn't used to having to perform come April and May. :lol:
 
Those desperate to not criticise him surely won't blame the pass to him this time?

He's been pretty dreadful since the away leg to Madrid, hopefully Rooney is fit for City because RVP is out of sorts.
 
Shame Rooney was out today, because I don't think RvP should have played considering he played on Saturday. Robins' done well to stay fit all season long considering his age and previous injury record, but perhaps 2 games in 2 days was a little too much. He didn't look very mobile off the ball, so that probably didn't help with shaping himself for that volley. He didn't play a full game so hopefully he'll be fresh for the derby, as hopefully Rooney will be.
 
just fighting it a bit these days but we looked a lot better in the offensive zone with him picking up balls we just lost the midfield when Giggs went central

thought that volley was a tough one as Evra fizzed it in - he sided footed it just couldn't get over it. The two headers were the bigger ones as he had time to adjust his sights and missed them completely.
 
It's hard to be too critical, because he lay the groundwork in the League but he's arguably knocked us out of the Champion's League and has just knocked us out of the FA Cup.

He should be doing better, a lot better, I guess on the plus side we won't get any bollocks like 'too good to score sitters' today but I bet someone will come up with something like 'You can take the player out of Arsenal, but not the Arsenal out of the player'.

A striker as good as him should be tucking those away, ironic that after the defence was bailed out by the strikers at the start of the season we are now defending well and can't score.
 
When you think about it his form dipped similarly during the second half of the season when he was at Arsenal. It may just be that going full throttle from day 1 of the season he gradually tails off as the season comes to a close...

Could be, thinking about it, did Fergie not mentioned somethign about being concerened that RVP didnt get a proper pre-season? Or am I just imagining that?
 
It's hard to be too critical, because he lay the groundwork in the League but he's arguably knocked us out of the Champion's League and has just knocked us out of the FA Cup.

He should be doing better, a lot better, I guess on the plus side we won't get any bollocks like 'too good to score sitters' today but I bet someone will come up with something like 'You can take the player out of Arsenal, but not the Arsenal out of the player'.

A striker as good as him should be tucking those away, ironic that after the defence was bailed out by the strikers at the start of the season we are now defending well and can't score.

I agree that his finishing has gone to shit but that is some crazy scapegoating.He's responsible for United's exit now in both cups ???
 
He had two or three chances, he didn't miss them because of a lack of fitness.

He missed them because he didn't play well, and he didn't play well because he wasn't sharp.

However, he has cost us in the cups.

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I agree that his finishing has gone to shit but that is some crazy scapegoating.He's responsible for United's exit now in both cups ???

Of course not, but if he'd taken his chances today and against Madrid (who to be fair, I said arguably because Cuneyt Cunteycunt and far more of an impact) it's hard to argue we would be out of them still.
 
He's got the Welbeck's at the moment, still won us 3 pts a few days back but yeah. Scored 3 for Holland too, he's fine it's just every miss is amplified because you just don't expect it.
 
He missed them because he didn't play well, and he didn't play well because he wasn't sharp.

What nonsense.

He's in poor form and it's not the first time this season he has missed a sitter
 
It's hard to be too critical, because he lay the groundwork in the League but he's arguably knocked us out of the Champion's League and has just knocked us out of the FA Cup.

He should be doing better, a lot better, I guess on the plus side we won't get any bollocks like 'too good to score sitters' today but I bet someone will come up with something like 'You can take the player out of Arsenal, but not the Arsenal out of the player'.

A striker as good as him should be tucking those away, ironic that after the defence was bailed out by the strikers at the start of the season we are now defending well and can't score.

What a load of rubbish. He could have done a feck load better, but saying that he's solely responsible for our cup exits is retarded.
 
I agree that his finishing has gone to shit but that is some crazy scapegoating.He's responsible for United's exit now in both cups ???

I think the sentence he was looking for is ' He had the chance to save you from both cup exits', but for some reason he chose to say that he lost them for you.
 
If we win the league he will have been absolutely crucial to that. Get a grip you greedy cnuts!
 
I think the sentence he was looking for is ' He had the chance to save you from both cup exits', but for some reason he chose to say that he lost them for you.

I would have agree with that 100%.It's been a good season nevertheless, a lot of teams would love to just win the Premier League
 
Is he even on a bad run of form? Let's break it down instead of jumping on the bandwagon:

v Everton - scored, hit the post. Looked dangerous.
v Madrid - hit the bar, missed a sitter, denied by a great save. Excellent all-round play.
v Reading - didn't start
v QPR - forced to go off injured in the first half. His cross lead to a goal.
v Norwich - Still showed signs of the injury, went off after an hour but assisted the opener
v Madrid - Linked up well with Welbeck but didn't look as dangerous. Played for 40 minutes with 10 men, against one of the best teams in the world.
v Chelsea - didn't start
v Reading - didn't play particularly well and didn't get much of the ball.

He still looks sharp, although not as sharp as earlier in the season. Logically, only the likes of Messi and Ronaldo can sustain the kind of early-season form he was showing, so it's natural to regress towards his mean a bit. But take a more granular approach and there's not much to worry about at all.
Let's add to this:

v Estonia - goal and assist (Not seen the match, more info anyone?)
v Romania - incredible goal, scored penalty and an assist (Not seen other highlights, more info anyone?)
v Sunderland - one "goal", could've easily had another but for a better pass (and finish I suppose). Decent general play in a "professional" (flat) team performance
v Chelsea - came on after an hour, should've scored.

Please stop with the hyperbole. He's not in shit form, he's just not as shit hot as before. It's also comes at a time where the team as a whole isn't performing at their top level, providing him with less opportunities.
 
I think the sentence he was looking for is ' He had the chance to save you from both cup exits', but for some reason he chose to say that he lost them for you.

People are being overly sensitive if they find your wording acceptable but mine in some way offensive, I don't think it's a particularly controversial thing to think that if RVP had scored chances he should be scoring we'd be in both cups still, however you want to dress that up is up to you.
 
He scored a couple of good goals in the intenationals, so how's he out of form?

Lack of service and support is the biggest problem

What's his recent goals scoring record then?

Stats don't tell you everything but you can tell just by watching him that he isnt playing half as well as he is capable of, thus he is out of form. It's ok to admit it you know.
 
It's hard to be too critical, because he lay the groundwork in the League but he's arguably knocked us out of the Champion's League and has just knocked us out of the FA Cup.

He should be doing better, a lot better, I guess on the plus side we won't get any bollocks like 'too good to score sitters' today but I bet someone will come up with something like 'You can take the player out of Arsenal, but not the Arsenal out of the player'.

A striker as good as him should be tucking those away, ironic that after the defence was bailed out by the strikers at the start of the season we are now defending well and can't score.

Yeah true, after all it was him pissing about for 70 minutes in the first match. It was him lazily passing the ball around and refusing to track back Ramires, Mata and Hazard. It was him who sent off Nani and then proceeded to crumble in the space of 5 minutes. Pretty sure he picked Cleverley at left midfield today too.
 
Do players miss more chances because they're out of form, or are they out of form because they've missed more chances?
 
Very few though.

Are you really laying our recent poor form at RVPs door? Bit mystfying if you are

I think they're laying RVPs poor form at RVPs door, rather than SAFs door, or Youngs, or any of the other usual scapegoats.

It's mystifying that people can't accept it.
 
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