Robin van Persie | 2012-14 Performances

Status
Not open for further replies.
Zen86 said:
The Caf's assessment on strikers is usually if you not scoring you're not playing well.
Click to expand...

I think he still looks head and shoulders above everyone else when he is on the pitch.

His close ball control is second to none, and when everyone was panicking yesterday he would calmly hold up the ball, retain possession and pick a pass.

Wayne take note!
 
I don't think he's in a bad patch at all. He's human after all and has to miss some of the shots. He didn't get any service in the game against chelsea when he came on. The madrid game was one off when he just couldn't finish the chances. but his build up play was immense. Every attack started with him chest controlling the ball and laying off to welbeck in a very tight area.

Even if he's not scoring as much as before, he does many classy little things and helping a lot in the build up. Also he's almost as hard working as Rooney. One more goal and he'll get his confidence sky high again. He played some really difficult games consecutively and contributed a lot without scoring. A few games rest will do him no harm. The whole team's form is also a factor for his slight decrease in performance
 
So he now needs a rest having played one full game in the last month? I think it's this lack of consistent playing time that's not helping. RVP actually alluded to something similar in this article: http://www1.skysports.com/football/...e-does-not-want-to-be-rested-by-Alex-Ferguson. His comments were voiced around a time where he'd started to get benched/substituted, and I got the feeling it was thinly veiled message to Ferguson along the lines of "this isn't helping me".

The rhythm he speaks of is what seems noticeably missing right now, so I'm going to disagree and say it's better he plays more. When he swept aside all before him last season, he played more games than any other Arsenal outfield player. Momentum aids productivity in whatever you do in life.
 
Hrm...
OptaJoe ‏@OptaJoe
5% - Robin van Persie's conversion rate in his past nine games (all comps), compared to 27% in the 28 games before that. Slump.
 
I firmly believe that RvP's recent goal drought is as a direct result of the change of my tagline from 'The Van Porschie' to 'Role model'. Check back to when it was changed & you will find a direct causal link.

May I suggest that if a kind modmin would restore my previous tagline, then RvP will be back to his old ways by the weekend.

Make it happen, you know it makes sense.
 
Class player whose is not really getting the service at the moment. He's desperate to win a league medal and I can see him really pushing everything possible to get one.
 
I think van persie is lacking from a bit of support its no coincidence his poor form has gone hand in hand with the wingers failure to make an impact in big games thus starving him of quality service.
 
This is amusing. Earlier in the season when he was scoring despite our midfielders and wingers being shit, it was a sign of his greatness. Now the wingers are the reason for his poor goal scoring form. :rolleyes:

He hasn't played up to his previous high standards over the last 7 or so games. There is nothing wrong with pointing that out. But yeah, he is the shinny new toy, so he is immune to the Rooney treatment for the foreseeable future.
 
pj stretfordend said:
I think van persie is lacking from a bit of support its no coincidence his poor form has gone hand in hand with the wingers failure to make an impact in big games thus starving him of quality service.
Click to expand...
Can't blame the wingers for his dip in form. They haven't played well all season. RVP has been getting chances he just hasn't been taking them at the moment.
 
Forevergiggs said:
This is amusing. Earlier in the season when he was scoring despite our midfielders and wingers being shit, it was a sign of his greatness. Now the wingers are the reason for his poor goal scoring form. :rolleyes:

He hasn't played up to his previous high standards over the last 7 or so games. There is nothing wrong with pointing that out. But yeah, he is the shinny new toy, so he is immune to the Rooney treatment for the foreseeable future.
Click to expand...

He won't get the rooney treatment because his form doesn't suffer like Wayne does. He's still doing the same things he has been ever since he joined. He's just not scoring.
 
Forevergiggs said:
This is amusing. Earlier in the season when he was scoring despite our midfielders and wingers being shit, it was a sign of his greatness. Now the wingers are the reason for his poor goal scoring form. :rolleyes:

He hasn't played up to his previous high standards over the last 7 or so games. There is nothing wrong with pointing that out. But yeah, he is the shinny new toy, so he is immune to the Rooney treatment for the foreseeable future.
Click to expand...

Did anyone even say that? It was only the Chelsea game people were referring to, because the service was actually abysmal.

Rooney is a complete different player and gets treated according to his performances in the same vein that van Persie will get treated, the difference being that van Persie hasn't put in any performances of note as bad as some of Rooneys.
 
There is nothing wrong with RVP. He (and pretty much every other player) goes through patches like this. He went through it when he was with Arsenal too. The difference though is that we're not a one-man team, which is what made us so successful all those years.

Get off his back, he earned the right to have a patch like this after what he did earlier this season.
 
Platato said:
He won't get the rooney treatment because his form doesn't suffer like Wayne does. He's still doing the same things he has been ever since he joined. He's just not scoring.
Click to expand...

I rather have him scoring and not "doing the same things", Plato.

Robin has made me a fan of him this season and we won't be anywhere without him. I merely pointed out that he has been a bit shit over the last few games. Which is the truth.
 
Is he a bit of a big game bottler?

tremendous player, no doubt, been sensational this season. But when it's come to the make or break weeks he's had his poorest run of form. Was fairly dire for Holland when they needed him IIRC.

bit of the arsenal mentality there?
 
Duafc said:
Is he a bit of a big game bottler?

tremendous player, no doubt, been sensational this season. But when it's come to the make or break weeks he's had his poorest run of form. Was fairly dire for Holland when they needed him IIRC.

bit of the arsenal mentality there?
Click to expand...
Goals again Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham and City. He's merely having a poor spell of form.
 
He will score some important goals for us between now and the end of the season. Just a poor run of form, he's had a couple of knocks and was rested with the Champions League games in mind to, pretty sure he will get back in track, probably against Reading at the weekend.
 
Not sure about that he has scored against Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Spurs and both games against Liverpool this season, ok he didn't do well against Madrid but I think it just so happens that game fell during his bad run of form which had already started a good few weeks before.

Think he is a great striker, but the Caf been the Caf I do wonder how long it will be before people have a change of opinion on him. For example I think this season that has happened with Rooney with people suggesting RVP is a far better striker than him but I wonder what will be said if RVP fails to beat the goal tally Rooney had leading the line last season which is very possible.
 
:lol: yeah,was just putting it out there,for me RVP's a top quality player and one of the very best finishers out there. He hasn't exactly been spoiled for chances lately, mostly working off scraps and very difficult ones.
 
Adebesi said:
He had a few good chances in the first leg against Madrid though.
Click to expand...

I think only one was a bad miss though, the volley just after he hit the bar he really should of scored the other 2 was just half chances for me.
 
Forevergiggs said:
I rather have him scoring and not "doing the same things", Plato.

Robin has made me a fan of him this season and we won't be anywhere without him. I merely pointed out that he has been a bit shit over the last few games. Which is the truth.
Click to expand...

Is that shitness directly related to him not scoring goals?
 
Duafc said:
:lol: yeah,was just putting it out there,for me RVP's a top quality player and one of the very best finishers out there. He hasn't exactly been spoiled for chances lately, mostly working off scraps and very difficult ones.
Click to expand...

Yet the way some talk, you would think this is the case. Not arguing he's in great form but despite his goalscoring lull, he's been decent. He certainly wasn't shite against Madrid in either leg.
 
Duafc said:
Is he a bit of a big game bottler?

tremendous player, no doubt, been sensational this season. But when it's come to the make or break weeks he's had his poorest run of form. Was fairly dire for Holland when they needed him IIRC.
Click to expand...

He scored home and away to Liverpool, he scored away to Chelsea, City and Spurs & home to Arsenal how can anyone who isn't brain dead say he hasn't delivered in the big games this season?

He'll no doubt be disappointed not to have scored in two games against Madrid but given we weren't eliminated by them in normal circumstances I think we can let him off.
 
Duafc said:
Is he a bit of a big game bottler?

tremendous player, no doubt, been sensational this season. But when it's come to the make or break weeks he's had his poorest run of form. Was fairly dire for Holland when they needed him IIRC.

bit of the arsenal mentality there?
Click to expand...

Big deal he did not score against Madrid?! He has scored against all the big teams in the premier league hasn't he? Bottler? I think you need to look up that definition again.
 
Very precious some people, when it comes to their favourite players. Honestly, a touch of objectivity would go a long way.

I was just asking the question! My own opinions of him, as stated are that he's quality and is probably just a victim of his own exceptional standards in that when a game goes by without him scoring, it's surprising.
 
He was also good against Madrid in both games and had two or three very good opportunities that he mostly created for himself by his excellent movement. You can't expect him to bail us out of trouble every single game, we need other players to deliver for van Persie to thrive and most of the times he does well when they do.
 
He was our best player, bar Welbeck, at the Bernabeu in my opinion. Basically played as a 6th midfielder at some points in the game, keeping the ball very well and trying to start counters.

I think he's just a bit fatigued, as well as the team as a whole not really playing as well as they have done earlier in the season.
 
There's no doubting his performance levels have dipped. It's not just that he's stopped scoring, but also that he's missed presentable opportunities in this fallow period. He needs a goal at the weekend.

Unfortunately for him, I think he has no chance of PotY now. His dip has come an the worst time, and when Bale and Suarez have both come to the fore. That said, if he picks up it again, he'll still maybe get the FWPotY.
 
Feed Me said:
There's no doubting his performance levels have dipped. It's not just that he's stopped scoring, but also that he's missed presentable opportunities in this fallow period. He needs a goal at the weekend.

Unfortunately for him, I think he has no chance of PotY now. His dip has come an the worst time, and when Bale and Suarez have both come to the fore. That said, if he picks up it again, he'll still maybe get the FWPotY.
Click to expand...

Wasn't the player of the year award voted during december every year or have they changed that?
 
I think it's still voted in January in which case van Persie ought to be the favourite.
 
Duafc said:
Very precious some people, when it comes to their favourite players. Honestly, a touch of objectivity would go a long way.

I was just asking the question! My own opinions of him, as stated are that he's quality and is probably just a victim of his own exceptional standards in that when a game goes by without him scoring, it's surprising.
Click to expand...

He's scored 6 goals in 10 games (9 starts) v Madrid, Chelsea, Arsenal, City, Spurs and Liverpool - what more objectivity do you need? In 07/08 Ronaldo scored 7 in 13 v Barcelona, Roma, Chelsea, City, Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool. He failed to score in both legs against Barcelona and missed guilt-edged chances in both - that penalty miss being the main one, of course - and he followed that up by coming off the bench at the hour mark v Chelsea but he failed to score as we lost the game 2-1. In that time he went on a run of 5 games without a goal or just under 400 minutes without scoring - van Persie's on 359 minutes at the moment. Even the best in peak form go through goalscoring lulls in a season, but anyone who thinks he's been playing "shit" in the last few weeks needs their eyes testing.
 
Duafc said:
Is he a bit of a big game bottler?

tremendous player, no doubt, been sensational this season. But when it's come to the make or break weeks he's had his poorest run of form. Was fairly dire for Holland when they needed him IIRC.

bit of the arsenal mentality there?
Click to expand...

I was kind of hoping this phrase had died out... Remember when people were calling Ronaldo and Henry 'big game bottlers'? I really hate that phrase.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.