Riyad Mahrez | Staying at Leicester

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I wonder why we aren't in for him. Seems perfect for us on paper. Maybe José just doesn't fancy him. Unless we are actually in for him!
Wouldn't you be a bit crowded with another attack minded midfielder though? Unless one got sacrificed.
 
Wouldn't you be a bit crowded with another attack minded midfielder though? Unless one got sacrificed.
We don't really have a single player that is a natural right winger. We normally play Mata there. Sometimes Mkhitaryan, Lingard or Rashford. But all of them are arguably better in other positions. Mahrez may or may not be a better player than some of them, but a good argument can be made that he'd be better than any of them at right wing. It's not a definite that he would be, but a decent probability.
 
What a weird one. He got dismissed to complete a transfer and then disappeared for the day.

Probably just wanted a day off to go home and play PlayStation
 
I guess he didn't necessarily have to have a club lined up. He might have just wanted to be available to show that he was ready right down to the last minute. There are still 2 hours left, so it's not all over yet. Plus the rest of europe has another day yet.
 
What a weird one. He got dismissed to complete a transfer and then disappeared for the day.

Probably just wanted a day off to go home and play PlayStation

It makes him sound like an amateur going from city to city on a National Express and asking if League 2 clubs can give him a trial.
 
We don't really have a single player that is a natural right winger. We normally play Mata there. Sometimes Mkhitaryan, Lingard or Rashford. But all of them are arguably better in other positions. Mahrez may or may not be a better player than some of them, but a good argument can be made that he'd be better than any of them at right wing. It's not a definite that he would be, but a decent probability.

I think Griezmann has already agreed to come and play that position in January, hence the complete lack of activity.
 
Griezmann is a no.10/secondary striker who'll take Mikhi's spot.

Still need a proper RW as well.

He'll take Mata position with the same instructions being given to Mata to drift inside. I'm sure of that. Mikhi is indispensable for Jose atm due to his productivity.
 
Griezmann is a no.10/secondary striker who'll take Mikhi's spot.

Still need a proper RW as well.

He plays that at Altetico who play 4-4-2 much of the time. No WAY he plays that at Manchester united. He'll play right wing, or he won't come.

Pretty sick of saying it, tbh.
 
He'll take Mata position with the same instructions being given to Mata to drift inside. I'm sure of that. Mikhi is indispensable for Jose atm due to his productivity.

3 games into the season, I wouldn't cement in Mikhi as a guaranteed starter. We all know the trouble he had maintaining a starting spot last year and it's definitely too early to say atm.


He plays that at Altetico who play 4-4-2 much of the time. No WAY he plays that at Manchester united. He'll play right wing, or he won't come.

Pretty sick of saying it, tbh.

Why do people take this as gospel? AG played RW a number of years ago and ever since the switch to SS is when his stock sky rocketed and he became known as world class. Has been playing behind the main striker internationally and for club which has led to his best seasons so I don't get why he'd want to change that all of a sudden. It's pretty clear it's his natural and most preferred position. Sure he could play out right as he did a while ago but why not put him in his position where he's best suited to succeed? No brainer to me, especially with José wanting to stick to a 2man midfield and playing 4-2-3-1 which is essentially a slight variation of the 4-4-2 Griezmann already plays in.

------------Lukaku
Martial---Griezmann---RWer
---------Matic---Pogba

...don't really get what the fuss is about. That makes a ton of sense especially if a RWer can be bought in who can offer wide play to stretch the field more.
 
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3 games into the season, I wouldn't cement in Mikhi as a guaranteed starter. We all saw the trouble he had maintaining a spot last year and it's definitely too early to say atm.

Mikhi has been pretty much a guaranteed starter ever since the second half of the last season.
 
Mikhi has been pretty much a guaranteed starter ever since the second half of the last season.

True but I think that has a lot more to do with our squad options (lack of) than it does the player, similarly to Mata starting out right. No better options other than them to play so of course they play.

When it comes down to it, you can't argue Griezmann isn't a much much better player and no.10 compared to Mikhi. It's a clear upgrade which United need, to add more world class and elite players who offer consistency game in game out. Not a bad thing for Mikhi either. Means Mata would likely have to be moved out and Mikhi could be the 1st or 2nd super sub alongside Rashford. Wouldn't mind that depth at all.
 
3 games into the season, I wouldn't cement in Mikhi as a guaranteed starter. We all know the trouble he had maintaining a starting spot last year and it's definitely too early to say atm.




Why do people take this as gospel? AG played RW a number of years ago and ever since the switch to SS is when his stock sky rocketed and he became known as world class. Has been playing behind the main striker internationally and for club which has led to his best seasons so I don't get why he'd want to change that all of a sudden. It's pretty clear it's his natural and most preferred position. Sure he could play out right as he did a while ago but why not put him in his position where he's best suited to succeed? No brainer to me, especially with José wanting to stick to a 2man midfield and playing 4-2-3-1 which is essentially a slight variation of the 4-4-2 Griezmann already plays in.

------------Lukaku
Martial---Griezmann---RWer
--------Lukaku---Pogba

...don't really get what the fuss is about. That makes a ton of sense especially if a RWer can be bought in who can offer wide play to stretch the field more.

:p
 
He'll take Mata position with the same instructions being given to Mata to drift inside. I'm sure of that. Mikhi is indispensable for Jose atm due to his productivity.
3 games into the season, I wouldn't cement in Mikhi as a guaranteed starter. We all know the trouble he had maintaining a starting spot last year and it's definitely too early to say atm.




Why do people take this as gospel? AG played RW a number of years ago and ever since the switch to SS is when his stock sky rocketed and he became known as world class. Has been playing behind the main striker internationally and for club which has led to his best seasons so I don't get why he'd want to change that all of a sudden. It's pretty clear it's his natural and most preferred position. Sure he could play out right as he did a while ago but why not put him in his position where he's best suited to succeed? No brainer to me, especially with José wanting to stick to a 2man midfield and playing 4-2-3-1 which is essentially a slight variation of the 4-4-2 Griezmann already plays in.

------------Lukaku
Martial---Griezmann---RWer
--------Lukaku---Pogba

...don't really get what the fuss is about. That makes a ton of sense especially if a RWer can be bought in who can offer wide play to stretch the field more.


His stock sky-rocketed because he got older and played at a much bigger club with much better players. No mystery, nor correlation. A player in the ascendancy, continued in that ascendancy.

Griezmann consistently plays less well at 10 for France, and Pogba plays less well at 8 for France because Griezmann is at 10 as it he provides nothing in terms of graft and nous through the centre tactically.

This is firmly established, but Deschamps does it anyway. Deschamps is a terrible manager, don't be like Deschamps.

Do you wan't to sell Pogba to accomodate a less creative number 8? If so, fine. But seems a false economy to me.

Griezmann will either play right, or he shuldn't go to Man United. If all Griezmann is is a 'second striker', he has a handfull of clubs he can play at, few of whom can afford him.
 
His stock sky-rocketed because he got older and played at a much bigger club with much better players. No mystery, nor correlation. A player in the ascendancy, continued in that ascendancy.

Griezmann consistently plays less well at 10 for France, and Pogba plays less well at 8 for France because Griezmann is at 10 as it he provides nothing in terms of graft and nous through the centre tactically.

This is firmly established, but Deschamps does it anyway. Deschamps is a terrible manager, don't be like Deschamps.

Do you wan't to sell Pogba to accomodate a less creative number 8? If so, fine. But seems a false economy to me.

Griezmann will either play right, or he shuldn't go to Man United. If all Griezmann is is a 'second striker', he has a handfull of clubs he can play at, few of whom can afford him.

Personal preference I guess.

If anything, I see AG as the no.10 in a 4231 which will be played more often that not and in the odd games where a 433 is to be played, José will still elect to keep him as the no.10/CAM or play him on the right depending on tactics and the specific team we're up against. But I'd still say the general consensus is he'd play centrally vast majority of the time. The perfect fit to get everyone involved in on the attack.


https://www.google.ca/amp/www.squawka.com/news/the-evolution-of-antoine-griezmann/951279?amp-on

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.spo...ited-which-position-best-suited-jose-mourinho
 
I kinda feel bad for the guy. He desperately wants a move but no one is seriously in for him. :lol:
 
Personal preference I guess.

If anything, I see AG as the no.10 in a 4231 which will be played more often that not and in the odd games where a 433 is to be played, José will still elect to keep him as the no.10/CAM or play him on the right depending on tactics and the specific team we're up against. But I'd still say the general consensus is he'd play centrally vast majority of the time. The perfect fit to get everyone involved in on the attack.


https://www.google.ca/amp/www.squawka.com/news/the-evolution-of-antoine-griezmann/951279?amp-on

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.spo...ited-which-position-best-suited-jose-mourinho


Under Mourinho, there is literally no prospect he will play in that position. Get over it. Articles by sub-minimum wage autists on shitty 'stats blogs' will not change that.
 
Surely not off to Chelsea - be weird for Leicester to let Drinkwater and Mahrez go there on deadline day
 
Under Mourinho, there is literally no prospect he will play in that position. Get over it. Articles by sub-minimum wage autists on shitty 'stats blogs' will not change that.

How can you assume such a thing lol unless I'm completely missing the boat on something. Mikhi is playing the exact same no.10 position behind Lukaku which Griezmann would presumably play. Why is it Mikhi can play there but there's "literally no prospect" AG would be allowed to play there under Mourinho, who's giving Mikhi the same freedom to do so right now himself?



Again, genuinely asking as I don't understand how you're jumping to this conclusion where it's RW or bust for Griezmann if he comes to United. He'd be playing a similar sort of role Ozil did in José's 4231 in Madrid

------------Benzema
Ronaldo---Ozil (AG)---Di Maria
---------Alonso----Khedira

and the role Mikhi is in right this very instant in the same 4231 formation

--------------Lukaku
Martial-----Mikhi (AG)----Mata (RWer)
---------Matic-------Pogba
 
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But anyways back on topic,

poor Mahrez lol. Such a shame no team has given him a chance. Maybe Barca will but it's a head scratcher no English team took a flyer on him again.
 
Thought you can't leave the Premiership after tonight though.
PL teams can't register a new player after 11pm.

Spanish clubs have an extra day to register any new purchase.

Sales aren't constrained by any of the deadlines.
 
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How can you assume such a thing lol unless I'm completely missing the boat on something. Mikhi is playing the exact same no.10 position behind Lukaku which Griezmann would presumably play. Why is it Mikhi can play there but there's "literally no prospect" AG would be allowed to play there under Mourinho, who's giving Mikhi the same freedom to do so right now himself?



Again, genuinely asking as I don't understand how you're jumping to this conclusion where it's RW or bust for Griezmann if he comes to United. He'd be playing a similar sort of role Ozil did in José's 4231 in Madrid

------------Benzema
Ronaldo---Ozil (AG)---Di Maria
---------Alonso----Khedira

and the role Mikhi is in right this very instant in the same 4231 formation

--------------Lukaku
Martial-----Mikhi (AG)----Mata (RWer)
---------Matic-------Pogba


Let me break it down for you into VERY simple terms, as it appears that is what this situation requires, despite the fact you are testing my patience.

Ozil is a midfielder. Not a forward. Under Mourinho, he worked infinitely harder that he does now at Arsenal, despite the fact it was even less neccessary, as Madrid efortlessly dominated the majority of teams in terms of possession. Mourinho spent a huge amount of his time on the sidelines shouting at Ozil to make sure he did his bidding and break down opposition attacks.

Griezmann is a forward, not a midfielder. He is much smaller physically than Ozil, and has spent as much of his career in wide positions as central ones, and the latter has only come in a 4-4-2 formation, which Mourinho has NEVER employed regularly in his ENTIRE managerial career,

United need a right winger.

Pogba is limited when Griezmann plays central.

Mata/Mkhi play the roles they do because Mourinho has no one else to play there. He doesn't want them there. They aren't very good there, but it's that or Jesse Lingard, and he STILL gets a game.

Mourinho is not going to (nor be allowed to by those above him) to spunk £90m on a player who 'makes do' in a position, but doesn't really excel there.


If that doesn't get through to you look elsewhere as I haven't the energy to ease your confusion.
 
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