Right Winger... Who do we go for?

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Ismaila Sarr of Rennes who is only 20 should be considered if we go for potential. Think he will develop into a fantastic winger..
 
We should go for Nabil Fekir . Although he isn't a proper winger . I do feel he will play well in our system . He will probably play as an inverted winger playing on the right side with an attacking right back . Personally the main reason I feel he can be good for us is his ball retention skills since he will always try to retain balls and dribble accordingly . Watching our game play I do feel we need someone who is adapt at retaining and keeping the ball since we lose the ball very cheaply . Also another reason is that he scores a good amount of goals and will probably play the Mata role .

No fecking way should we be sticking another centre player on the right wing. Fekir would be a great signing, but not as a right winger.

How has Lozano looked this season?
 
Maybe Sanchez comes good in a central role, if not, i would still go for Perisic and offer Sanchez. Also offer Lukaku for Icardi while we are at it...:smirk:

Zaha seems a no brainer, if the buy back clause is true
 
Douglas Costa doesn't seem to be getting much game time at Juve. He'd perhaps be available at around £40m.
 
I really like the look of Nicolas Pepe. Fast, direct, ability to go either way and possesses genuine goal threat. More or less exactly what this side lacks in a right winger.

Chiesa is an interesting option as well but Fiorentina seem a lot more resistant to the idea of selling him. I think I read a report saying they turned down an €80m bid from Napoli last summer.
 
I really like Zaha, but is he really a RW nowadays? Or can he be as effective playing there for us? He is a good dribbler and could add so much but someone with more insight might shed some light on him.

EDIT: I just saw this guy's Pepe stats. he has 8 goals and 7 assist in 12 games. That's impressive isn't it?
 
EDIT: I just saw this guy's Pepe stats. he has 8 goals and 7 assist in 12 games. That's impressive isn't it?
He's scored five penalties this season so it's slightly skewed but he did manage 13 goals last season and only one of those was a penalty.
 
Christian Pulisic ticks all the boxes for me, we should be all over him, contract talks should be happening soon.
 
Just re-watched Dembele's goal against Rayo, not a single teammate came to celebrate him tying up an important game they were losing. Now the rumors of division in regards to him start to feel more real and it's something to keep an eye on. He could be a headache to deal with but he's having a great season so far, even coming off the bench.
 
Suso, Thauvin and Dembele would be who I'd go for. If getting Zaha for a discount is an option, him as well.
 
I was just checking my post history in here and I’m going to be consistent, if there is any chance he is available then Ousmane Dembele is who we need to sign for that right hand side.

Like Martial he is a person who will command the presence of 2 people and put the fear in teams that this guy could do anything at any moment so he needs special handling.

There is no doubt he still needs a lot of work on when and how to use the incredible skills he has as some of the things he does whilst dribbiling are incredible but some of them are maybe 1 to many when the damage was already done a trick or so ago.

He’s too talented to not want, he just needs the guidance and the way he plays the OT crowd will take to him like a duck to water.
 
I was just checking my post history in here and I’m going to be consistent, if there is any chance he is available then Ousmane Dembele is who we need to sign for that right hand side.

Like Martial he is a person who will command the presence of 2 people and put the fear in teams that this guy could do anything at any moment so he needs special handling.

There is no doubt he still needs a lot of work on when and how to use the incredible skills he has as some of the things he does whilst dribbiling are incredible but some of them are maybe 1 to many when the damage was already done a trick or so ago.

He’s too talented to not want, he just needs the guidance and the way he plays the OT crowd will take to him like a duck to water.

Yeah I think SAF would be all over him in this situation.
 
No fecking way should we be sticking another centre player on the right wing. Fekir would be a great signing, but not as a right winger.

How has Lozano looked this season?

Isn't Lozano more a left winger than right . Also read somewhere that he plays more like Depay than Sane where in he moves in forward in the striker position than the winger one . I dont really watch much of him to be honest so cant really comment .

About Fekir well to be honest we only have the right wing to offer right now in the front 3 so he rather play on the right side than the striker position as Martial has the left wing position cemented as of now and Rashford and Lukaku are more favourites for striker position . Hence I said he would be replacement for Mata .
 
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He's scored five penalties this season so it's slightly skewed but he did manage 13 goals last season and only one of those was a penalty.
I watched some highlights of him after my post. To be entirely frank I didn't like what I saw. He's a good player obviously but now what we need in my opinion.
 
My favourites would be Thuavin and Suso. The latter even have a minimum fee clause.
 
Not that many available. Dembele, Thauvin, Williams, Coman? Dembele would be the best option ofcourse. Is he getting much playtime now with Malcom?
 
Suso, Thauvin and Dembele would be who I'd go for. If getting Zaha for a discount is an option, him as well.
My favourites would be Thuavin and Suso. The latter even have a minimum fee clause.
I said Suso earlier on in the thread around a year or so ago. Cool to see more people hopping on this train. :cool:

Suso is a rare breed of RW in this day and age in that he actually holds width! He's fine staying wide, beating his man and whipping in some beautiful crosses, and he's equally comfortable at cutting inside playing defence splitting passes or having a pop at goal.

I've watched him a lot at Milan. He was very impressive last year but, admittedly, looked out of his depth against Arsenal in the Europa. I still like him a lot, though.

Him and Januzaj would be my first picks right now.

As for Thauvin, I've seen a bit of him and am not a fan. Great stats, unimpressive general play. Those were my exact same concerns regarding Mkhitaryan and I said as much when we were initially linked with him. I'm of the opinion that, like Mkhi, he'd look out of his depth here due to most likely playing in a system that isn't a cohesive one.
 
I said Suso earlier on in the thread around a year or so ago. Cool to see more people hopping on this train. :cool:

Suso is a rare breed of RW in this day and age in that he actually holds width! He's fine staying wide, beating his man and whipping in some beautiful crosses, and he's equally comfortable at cutting inside playing defence splitting passes or having a pop at goal.

I've watched him a lot at Milan. He was very impressive last year but, admittedly, looked out of his depth against Arsenal in the Europa. I still like him a lot, though.

Him and Januzaj would be my first picks right now.

As for Thauvin, I've seen a bit of him and am not a fan. Great stats, unimpressive general play. Those were my exact same concerns regarding Mkhitaryan and I said as much when we were initially linked with him. I'm of the opinion that, like Mkhi, he'd look out of his depth here due to most likely playing in a system that isn't a cohesive one.

Well done for discovering Suso. I might discover Messi while at it :p

Seriously, he's been doing well for quite some time.
 
Well done for discovering Suso. I might discover Messi while at it :p

Seriously, he's been doing well for quite some time.
Not discovering! Liverpool's scouts beat me there. I think you two and @Infra-red above are the only ones besides me to bring Suso into the discussion, though. I just did so a while ago - preferring him over the likes of Mahrez, Thauvin, Malcom, Pulisic, etc when they were the big picks.

I only say this because I'm surprised at how he seems to be under the radar in general. Especially as there is a severe lack of top RWs right now.

Him and Januzaj have been my picks for over a year now. Partly because I think both could become top players here (with added sentiment in regards to Januzaj) and partly because there isn't much choice at the moment. Unless Dembele really isn't fitting Barcelona's style which I'm out of the loop on.
 
Not discovering! Liverpool's scouts beat me there. I think you two and @Infra-red above are the only ones besides me to bring Suso into the discussion, though. I just did so a while ago - preferring him over the likes of Mahrez, Thauvin, Malcom, Pulisic, etc when they were the big picks.

I only say this because I'm surprised at how he seems to be under the radar in general. Especially as there is a severe lack of top RWs right now.

Him and Januzaj have been my picks for over a year now. Partly because I think both could become top players here (with added sentiment in regards to Januzaj) and partly because there isn't much choice at the moment. Unless Dembele really isn't fitting Barcelona's style which I'm out of the loop on.

Many keep mentioning Mourinho's Chelsea as a crusher of young talent (De Bruyne, Salah and Lukaku) to mention a few. However Liverpool had their share of feck ups. Suso had been incredible at Milan, Alberto had been great with Lazio not to forget Aspas whose literally a goal machine.

Regarding Januzaj and Dembele, they might have the talent but their attitude is meah at best.
 
Maybe Sanchez comes good in a central role, if not, i would still go for Perisic and offer Sanchez. Also offer Lukaku for Icardi while we are at it...:smirk:

Zaha seems a no brainer, if the buy back clause is true
Inter won't be able to get close to Sanches' wages so that swap aint happening. Would be a great swap for both clubs though. If Inter are giving us Icardi and Peresic then they might as well throw Skriniar in there too ;)

With Zaha it's a sell on clause so Palace will do evetything not to sell him so they don't have to split the profit with us.

Nicolas Pepe seems right now to be the only gettable RW I can think of in January who looks good enough.
 
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Inter won't be able to get close to Sanches' wages so that swap aint happening. Would be a great swap for both clubs though. If Inter are giving us Icardi and Peresic then they might as well the Skriniar in there too ;)

With Zaha it's a sell on clause so Palace will do evetything not to sell him so they don't have to split the profit with us.

Nicolas Pepe seems right now to be the only gettable RW I can think of in January who looks good enough.

Some reports say there is a buy back clause, but even if there isn't and its just a sell on fee that will still give us a big discount
 
Some reports say there is a buy back clause, but even if there isn't and its just a sell on fee that will still give us a big discount
True but a lot of decent reports have been saying Jose is after a winger who is lethal at crossing so that Lukaku's aerial threat can be exposed more often. And a RW under Jose would be expected to do a lot of the dirty work also. Rebic springs to mind but the board will want attackers who can excite to keep fans happy.
 
I was just checking my post history in here and I’m going to be consistent, if there is any chance he is available then Ousmane Dembele is who we need to sign for that right hand side.

Like Martial he is a person who will command the presence of 2 people and put the fear in teams that this guy could do anything at any moment so he needs special handling.

There is no doubt he still needs a lot of work on when and how to use the incredible skills he has as some of the things he does whilst dribbiling are incredible but some of them are maybe 1 to many when the damage was already done a trick or so ago.

He’s too talented to not want, he just needs the guidance and the way he plays the OT crowd will take to him like a duck to water.
I am yet to see that from Martial, who often struggles to get past a lone defender.

If any of our strikers commanded such attention, our attack would be more potent.

For examples of people that do command such attention, please watch hazard and salah
 
I am yet to see that from Martial, who often struggles to get past a lone defender.

If any of our strikers commanded such attention, our attack would be more potent.

For examples of people that do command such attention, please watch hazard and salah

https://www.specsavers.co.uk/?gclid...VQ7DtCh08tQOaEAAYASAAEgIGWPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

He constantly gets doubled up on, sometimes even a 3rd. We’ve a;so seen him waltz past 2 or even 3 so I don’t know what you’ve been watching.
 
My choice would be Dybala but playing him and Martial/rashford would leave to much gap from midfield.

A better fit would be a more of a midfielder/AM than a striker, like a younger Di Maria/Willian. None comes to mind though.
 
That is the best evidence you can come up with?

If your claim was true, a youtube video should have been easier to find
Well I beleive what you’ve stated is total fabrication because you could click on any martial highlight video and see moments when he has 2 or 3 on him and goes past them or gets his pass off. Watch any game of ours over the last 2/3 years and you would see he often gets double marked and can easily go past people. I mean his god damn first goal against Liverpool. Heck watch this 2:27 he has 4 on him.
 
Well I beleive what you’ve stated is total fabrication because you could click on any Martial highlight video and see moments when he has 2 or 3 on him and goes past them or gets his pass off. Watch any game of ours over the last 2/3 years and you would see he often gets double marked and can easily go past people. I mean his god damn first goal against Liverpool. Heck watch this 2:27 he has 4 on him.
and i can show a video of lukaku dribbling past 4 defenders - doesnt mean he commands the attention of two defenders talk less of putting fear in the opposition.

Since Mourinho took over, and until recent, Martial has been inconsistent and unable to hold down a starting spot. He couldnt even make a world cup squad that included the likes of Giroud, fekir and thauvin.

Players that command such attention are top class players that are the first names on a team sheet. Even a player like Dybala, who is better than Martial, is not yet at that level. To put the current Martial in that category should be a treasonable felony
 
and i can show a video of Lukaku dribbling past 4 defenders - doesnt mean he commands the attention of two defenders talk less of putting fear in the opposition.

Since Mourinho took over, and until recent, Martial has been inconsistent and unable to hold down a starting spot. He couldnt even make a World Cup squad that included the likes of Giroud, fekir and thauvin.

Players that command such attention are top class players that are the first names on a team sheet. Even a player like Dybala, who is better than Martial, is not yet at that level. To put the current Martial in that category should be a treasonable felony
Of course you can, there will be videos of Hesky going past 2 or 3 somewhere but you asked for proof and I gave you some and if you’ve followed any of our games over the last 3 years you should have noticed teams doubling up on him or even sticking a 3rd to clean up. Your statement of him struggiling to get past 1-player for me hyperbole. Of course there are times when he doesn’t get past 1, but there are also times when he does or goes past more than 1. It in general was just a lazy comment by yourself up there with “Smalling always has a mistake in him”

Dybala mostly plays as a striker, who drifts around positions finding himself on the wing, you wouldn’t double him up. I think you think doubling up means 2 men man marking him, instead of a team making sure that when the ball goes to him they get 2 or 3 bodies to him immediately, which is what a lot of teams do against him.
 
Of course you can, there will be videos of Hesky going past 2 or 3 somewhere but you asked for proof and I gave you some and if you’ve followed any of our games over the last 3 years you should have noticed teams doubling up on him or even sticking a 3rd to clean up. Your statement of him struggiling to get past 1-player for me hyperbole. Of course there are times when he doesn’t get past 1, but there are also times when he does or goes past more than 1. It in general was just a lazy comment by yourself up there with “Smalling always has a mistake in him”

Dybala mostly plays as a striker, who drifts around positions finding himself on the wing, you wouldn’t double him up. I think you think doubling up means 2 men man marking him, instead of a team making sure that when the ball goes to him they get 2 or 3 bodies to him immediately, which is what a lot of teams do against him.
Martial often struggles to beat his man than otherwise as much as Smalling is a disaster waiting to happen. Those are not hyperbole, simply stating facts that anyone that has watched them play can see.

This is Martial against Bournemouth, which is a recent game in which most will agree he played well.

There is no evidence of him commanding the attention of two defenders and putting any fear into the Bournemouth defenders.

If a player of Martial's level was enough to put fear in defenders, most defenders would have died of fright already.
 
There is no evidence of him commanding the attention of two defenders and putting any fear into the Bournemouth defenders.
Yet there was plenty in the video I provided you earlier. Anyway pointless topic now and it’s turned in to more of a martial performance debate. Dembele for me please because he will provide the same threat and create the same fear Martial does on the left.
 
Just watching Mahrez for city in the highlights for tonight, why didn’t we go in for him :wenger:
 
Martial often struggles to beat his man than otherwise as much as Smalling is a disaster waiting to happen. Those are not hyperbole, simply stating facts that anyone that has watched them play can see.

This is Martial against Bournemouth, which is a recent game in which most will agree he played well.
There is no evidence of him commanding the attention of two defenders and putting any fear into the Bournemouth defenders.

If a player of Martial's level was enough to put fear in defenders, most defenders would have died of fright already.

I'm genuinely surprised that someone doesn't think he draws 2 defenders to him almost every time he has the ball. I thought it was plain to see. The only time he doesn't get 2 on him when he has the ball is when he comes central.
 
That is the best evidence you can come up with?

If your claim was true, a youtube video should have been easier to find
Maybe we can hire some forensic company to put up a video evidence as well as a written report of Martial's game. Or you can simply try and watch him play football maybe?
 
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