Lucas Paqueta or Dybala maybe. Would love to see any of these here.
Right Winger... Who do we go for?
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Lucas Paqueta or Dybala maybe. Would love to see any of these here.
I agree that from what we've seen on the pitch and in terms of selection we seem to want someone who comes off the flank to play behind the strikers. I don't think it comes even close to working for us at the present time with the current players we use there. In theory Lingard and Mata should do a pretty decent job in that role. But for some reason they dont. And at least in Lingard's case, he looks half the player he is when he starts in a central role.
I'm not that convinced that a new player bought for mega money would be at their best in that role either. I think its just as likely that our playstyle, balance and tactics would impede a new signing playing the role. But I do obviously think that we can get someone doing a more impactful job than Lingard or Mata. The question is, is a £70 million right attacking midfielder worth a 25-30% improvement over Mata and Lingard on the right?
And the one thing that doesnt add up with that theory, is that Sanchez has been at his best in his career centrally. So theres no reason why he can't play from the right and go into the hole while Martial plays on the left. But we never, ever see that.
I'm not that convinced that a new player bought for mega money would be at their best in that role either. I think its just as likely that our playstyle, balance and tactics would impede a new signing playing the role. But I do obviously think that we can get someone doing a more impactful job than Lingard or Mata. The question is, is a £70 million right attacking midfielder worth a 25-30% improvement over Mata and Lingard on the right?
And the one thing that doesnt add up with that theory, is that Sanchez has been at his best in his career centrally. So theres no reason why he can't play from the right and go into the hole while Martial plays on the left. But we never, ever see that.
This floating playmaker thing isn't working out so far, now in Lingard's case it's simply not what he is but Mata should be better in this role than he is, in theory at least. Eriksen would be by far the best choice as he's done it already in the PL, buy prying him from Levy's deathgrip will be a nightmare.
Simple: Zaha - Zaha -Zaha
As much as we know what the team needs, I think deep down we know that there is no simple answer to the question of this thread.
Can’t recall ever seeing a thread like this where everyone is struggling to forward convincing solutions for such an obvious area of weakness.
I have no fecking clue who we should get. I’m inclined to wait it out, see what Sancho’s situation is saying in a year or two, or even his teammate. Then there’s Tahith.
I just think that after Mahrez and Bale, we’re all scratching now. We know we need something, but no overwhelmingly attractive option.
Can’t recall ever seeing a thread like this where everyone is struggling to forward convincing solutions for such an obvious area of weakness.
I have no fecking clue who we should get. I’m inclined to wait it out, see what Sancho’s situation is saying in a year or two, or even his teammate. Then there’s Tahith.
I just think that after Mahrez and Bale, we’re all scratching now. We know we need something, but no overwhelmingly attractive option.
zero chance this ever happens, especially after the recent interview he gave detailing his experience with the club
We will be signing nobody so it’s a pointless thread.
Lets do everything we can to get Zaha signed up in January in my opinion. He has clearly stepped up from the time he was with us.
Eriksen's contract has weakened Levy's death grip if he doesn't sign a new contract, I can't see Levy letting him go for free by the end of 2020 season. I don't think it will be us if other clubs come in for him from another league, being an example is Modric and Bale, they sold for less than what we offered.
I hope It's neither Pulisic nor Bailey.
I want an actual proven,prolific player. Not a kid who will be hyped for his "potential" just to fail to meet Jose's expectations and get benched alongside Martial and Rashford.
Honestly Mahrez was just an obvious option last year, 60 to 70M isn't that big of a fee in today's market, he's PL proven, prolific and he would've started at United quite easily compared to City who are already stacked.
Right now I don't see an available wingers fitting all criteras
I want an actual proven,prolific player. Not a kid who will be hyped for his "potential" just to fail to meet Jose's expectations and get benched alongside Martial and Rashford.
Honestly Mahrez was just an obvious option last year, 60 to 70M isn't that big of a fee in today's market, he's PL proven, prolific and he would've started at United quite easily compared to City who are already stacked.
Right now I don't see an available wingers fitting all criteras
This is it. Only speculative kids now, and not of the level of Hazard at Lille either. There’s no 23 year old Gareth Bale, there’s no young forwards putting up 20 goals in a good league at a selling club.
Hopefully Chong can be introduced at some stage, although he will also be a young potential talent too.
If Martial can improve his consistency and provide pace on the left, then I wouldn’t mind Dybala coming from an inside right sort of role. Fekir could also do a similar job. Other than them, can only see maybe Thauvin as a proven option of maturity on the right.
Sterling, Sane, Bernardo Silva were all hype, not proven. It's all about the manager trusting them even when it's tough.
How much would we get for Lingard? Would any club even want him?
Why both are physically small, unproven in the PL and right now any right winger worth his weight in gold will simply not want to play under Jose as an Auxilary Right Back!
We chose the wrong City target to gazump last season. Mahrez was absolutely ideal but the time is long gone for that. I'd rather avoid signing a younger option while Chong is at the club. I think when the time is right he will be a good player for us. Maybe a player like Zaha would be decent addition but who knows if he'd be willing to return.
Money talks my friend!
I think the new winger will likely be young but also will likely be playing under a different manager so all is not lost in that regard. I see Fekir mentioned a lot, I really rate him but he thrives as essentially a #10, or if you are bold as one of two attacking #8's ahead of a DM in 4-3-3, playing him off the RW might work but could just as easily be another square peg in a round hole situaion.
Even with Alderweirewld in a more precarious contract situation Levy played hardball, I'd love to see us pull out all of the stops and get Eriksen, but I think Levy dislikes United in general so as you say if there's another option he'd probably sell for less to them than sell within the PL.
Maybe £20m or so from West Ham, Everton, Leicester.
Bailey had 6 good months. Not even a good full season.
Pulisic is nowhere near the level Sane was at in Bundesliga.
Sterling contributed to 28 PL goals in 2 seasons as a 19/20 year old.
Bernardo was a top 3 player in a team that won L1 and made it to the semifinals of the CL.
Sure they weren't world beaters but they had done far more than Pulisic or Bailey.
We don't need youth, we already have young players in Martial and Rashford, Lukaku is quite young either.
We need quality, reliable quality.
Pulisic and Sane were about the same level in the Bundesliga and in truth it doesn't matter because there are no reliable, experienced world class options available, so we ar going to have to take a risk but at least it will be on someone who actually plays on the RW, which none of our current players do.
Maybe Everton would, they like signing from us. Barring that, wouldn't get a team in the top 10. I'd say he would struggle to get a Premier league move at all, but because of his goal at the World Cup some team would bite.
Am I crazy in the fact I'd swap Lingard for Demarai Gray?
Can’t believe I made this thread at the start of 2016 and nothing has been done. If even a brainless fan like me can see it, not sure why our management can’t.
Pulisic is a seasoned Dortmund performer, has more Budesliga appearances than Sane ever had and is arguably the USMNT star man.
Not meant to be talking about Pulisic anyway, but you can't deny that Sane, Sterling and Silva - especially Sane and Sterling - were all hype and potential when City got 'em.
Selling Lingard for £20m in this market would be peak us when it comes to selling players.
But in the meantime, he will be a regular starting forward for Manchester United. Tells it all.
what? absolutely no.
Ha, you're not a brainless fan! Quite the opposite.
Ah I absolutely adore @MyOnlySolskjaer
I just watched Bertrand Traore and thought theres a decent option, Chelsea have buy back clause though. He's got almost a 1 in 2 record for Lyon.
Mind you so has Lukaku for us and Belgium
Mind you so has Lukaku for us and Belgium
Have mentioned him several times, he's easily the best option.
Like Alexis Sanchez? Or Bastian Schweinsteiger? Or Radamel Falcao? Or Angel Di Maria? Or Juan Veron?
There are no transfers with guaranteed success.
If you look back at all our old players that had a good time here, almost every player joined our first team at a fairly young age. We got most of them before they were established stars somewhere else. Solskjaer, Park, Keane, Evra, Vidic, Rooney, Ronaldo, Rio, Carrick, Nani...
And we have to be patient, we have to accept that some transfers just don’t work out. Fergie had an uncanny eye for talent, and even he got a lot of transfers wrong.
So, i think it would be wise of us to keep pursueing these young talents
Even for a transfer muppet like myself, I have become a bit disillusioned by transfers these days.
Not just under Jose, but since SAF retired, our signings have rarely had the impact I/we expected.
Players are constantly under-performing IMO, and I don't think there are many right wingers that could come in and hit the ground running.
Not just under Jose, but since SAF retired, our signings have rarely had the impact I/we expected.
Players are constantly under-performing IMO, and I don't think there are many right wingers that could come in and hit the ground running.
I thought both him and Thauvin had good games in the Lyon/Marseille match last night, but for some reason I don't think either would do well at United, no rational reason for it, just a gut feeling with them both.
That’s a bit left field. Why would we sell him? He’d have a queue of suitors should we ever decide he’s surplus
We’re really talking about a right sided forward as opposed to a line hugging winger, unless we change formation again. In which case probably Mbappe
But color me disinterested until we ever go back to 442 again with 2 fast wingers ready to stretch the play again
But color me disinterested until we ever go back to 442 again with 2 fast wingers ready to stretch the play again
Lingard is a great squad player like JSP was for us, why the hell would we sell him? He's deployed on the RW, where he's half the player he can be playing centrally because some football superstar with insane wages - Sanchez came to the team and we changed our set up to three midfielders. So yes it is really daft to ask a question like this
I am sure, that if we finally hire a decent manager who knows the word attacking unlike these three frauds we will have more of a success developing wingers, attackers, why is it so easy for Liverpool and Guardiola play a great attacking football? Mane Salah Firminho - noone would thought about them being part of of of the best attacks in Europe few years back, just give a team a new manager who knows how to press, and chances in the final third will come and they will be producing again
We have a couple of young wingers at the club if given the chance. Chong or Gomes could fill the role and Spend the money on someone else.
These young players need a chance and If they are good enough they are old enough. They are young men now.
Rooney, Giggs, Whiteside, Best, and many others, all started when still only in their teens and turned out to be great. We need some new young faces on this team.
These young players need a chance and If they are good enough they are old enough. They are young men now.
Rooney, Giggs, Whiteside, Best, and many others, all started when still only in their teens and turned out to be great. We need some new young faces on this team.
At this moment in time you could probably make that point about any player we could potentially sign. I'm fairly certain about Traore though. Wherever he will go, he's going to be successful IMO.
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