It can't. He inherited both Rashford and Martial. Plus all his a efforts to recruit a right wing solution have thus far been scuppered by Woodward. Its really up to the likes of Martial to make therm selves indispensable by snatching the one role available to them all in attack
Right Winger... Who do we go for?
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I think it's simply a case of Mou prefering Lingard, Mata and even Rashford on there over him.
I have been following Mourinho's teams since forever. In my view Willian would have been perfect for you only because you signed Sanchez who is a big investment and will play regardless. If you want Sanchez to shine you need a guy like Willian on the right who will have a more rigid role allowing Sanchez more freedom. It's just how Mourinho sets up his teams, you just need that balance. I even think Sanchez is even a better partner for Willian than Hazard is because he is more direct.
That being said... I hope we keep him because he will definitely make you stronger.
That being said... I hope we keep him because he will definitely make you stronger.
We don’t have wingbacks though, Young is the only one who is competent going forward, the rest already struggle enough as fullbacks in terms of their attacking ability so it would be negative and ineffective.
We either need a right winger or if switching to a back three two wingbacks but we probably aren’t getting any of those players which is just odd and only carries same problems over until next summer.
It just doesn't suit the way he plays - what's baffling is that Jose won't play Sanchez there and Martial on the left.
Two quality players, one who is way better on the left and one who is comfortable on both, and he insists on playing the one who can play both on the left. It's fecking irritating tbh
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You probably will never see Sanchez play on the right anymore, and actually he played his best football in arsenal as striker in 2016/2017. He is not that explosive anymore due to his age so he is more dangerous closer to the box, just like CR7's change from winger to striker.
Any decent footballer should be comfortable using both feet, hell they get paid enough to be able to. I was able to play both sides for my Sunday league team...it's not that hard. I could go wide and take on my man on either wing or cut inside. These guys are professionals, it should be easy for any decent winger to play both sides equally well.
Honestly Willian is probably the best option, I know his age is a concern but I'd forgo a signing a younger player while Chong is at the club.
I don't see why Rashford can't be our right winger. He has all the attributes, fast, can beat a player, vision, can shoot, decent passing range / ability. Just work on his crosses and we could utilise Lakakus strength in the box and air. He's ready made for that position if you ask me.
He just needs to look at how Mbappe plays on the right and tailor his game similarly. It's a position that he can easily make his own if he wants to.
I think Rashford at this stage needs to be given strict instructions in attack before he's ready to do that. Give him freedom to do what he wants and he's going to be taking shots from ridiculous positions. Unfortunately Jose prides himself on NOT being that kind of manager.
Not disputing your assessment of Sanchez, but I don't see how this explains why Jose chose to play him on the left. Frankly I'd take Sanchez over Lukaku at striker, but that's harsh on Lukaku and anyway it's just not going to happen.
Why would that make him cheaper exactly?
If someone else buys him, we get money. If we buy him, we don't.
I guess they're two different points, mind.
Similar to Jesse and Alli in the world cup. Sometimes they would be even further forward than kane
Sounds crazy but I’d put Lingard as RWB and young/Shaw as the left one
Good point there with Lingard. If Moses could do it he should be able to. Lvg gave him his debut playing rwb
He’s got the engine for it and is also very disciplined. Could see him overlapping well, and dangerous when he would cut in
I think it really can, they both are strikers in the first place( not a pure no 9 though but still strikers) played as wingers or wide forwards which is not completely suited to their natural game , and they came here with that idea of being strikers at this club. I think we can all agree that they'd be best used in a two striker system, their best qualities lie near the box and inside the box with their pace, movement and dribbling skills and now asked to play as wide wingers and be in charge of what wingers are asked to do on the pitch in terms of attacking and defending with or without the ball, and still were were developing well until Sanchez came along with a better defensive work rate and huge experience. Who knows when used in the correct way they could be something else in a more dangerous way to the opposition and we are being deprived of that as he has a history of doing that.
Conte came along at chelsea inherited mourinho team, fixed the balance of the team with a 343 system and won the title with plain and simple solution. Mourinho is still struggling to find the right balance by targeting unrealistic players who don't want to come here or its super difficult to price them away from your main title rivals and not adjusting to the squad at hand. Little flexibility and simple solutions can get the best out of the squad at hand which is being deprived off and everyone can agree to that.
Now I really don't think you can blame Ed woodward for not delivering a RW as mourinho is also equally culpable with the wrong recruitment of Mkh over Sadio Mane or Willian in that position in his first window itself when it could be more easier to fill that place. Now weather Mkh was Mourinho target of Woodward Fantacy is really a question we can't answer with conviction but its poor planning when you think now Willian will be sold by Chelsea to united after what happened with Matic comming here unless its a ridiculous price. All the Media including united legends ridiculed Chelsea over Matix sale to united, why would they be making the same mistake again unless its a ridiculous price or they are getting something in return?
Now if you don't want to use talented players on their strengths when those talents came here thinking their role in the team would be different to what they are being forced to donow, in this modern footballing culture its super easy to find another clubs which might get the best out of them. So if its not working out for them they really don't care, the manager won't care either and the disharmony and unbalanced teams continue to roll out again jeopardising results and quality in the process. It's easier to be flexible and adjust to the qualities of the squad at hand sometimes then to force the system on the players which are not suited to it.
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Yea, without starting to compare the two I do see similarities in their abilities. There's no reason he couldn't do a job out there. It would give us the balance in the front line that we're desperately in need of. He's right footed too isn't he? Could be star out there.
Never said anything to the contrary... every player needs instructions. That goes without saying. Not sure what you're responding to from my comment to be completely honest.
Because surely we get a 25% discount on the deal. So, if Palace sell for £50m to another club and we get £12.5m, surely we can outright sign Zaha for £37.5m as Palace would still owe us the 25% of any selling fee.
Either way, we won't sign him imo.
This agenderism at its worst. First, Conte did not inherit an imbalanced team from Mourinho. That is pure fiction. Rather he inherited a team that had spent a season on strike. When he had the chance to mould it his way, he nearly made a car crash of it, costing him his job. Second, Mourinho canmot be blamed for Mhikitaryan lacking the mental fortitude to consistently perform for a high pressure club like United. His struggles had nothing to do with not suiting JMs football. For Mhikitrayan is one of the few attacking midfielders/right side attackers reknowned for their workrate, defensive aptitude in concert with their natural attacking instincts.
If we are not getting any new RW, what about rashford trying to establish himself there? I know he has played there a few times and was far from convincing but then it might worth trying again. Plus he wanna play and he ain't the 1st option on the left or upfront
Why can't we try Pereira there. He seems to have learned from his time at Valencia.
If we were to offer them £31m it's a better deal for Palace than selling him to someone else for £40m.
Edit: I'm not saying he will go for £40m it's just that they are the easiest figures to make the point.
Your example of defensive side being valued over all is Jesse Lingard who starts 1 in 2 and has loads of sub appearances to provide more attacking threat
Mourinho didn't go mental at Rashford for not making the easy pass to Martial for an open goal did he? It was actually because Rashford was attacking instead of being a fullback to defend the spaces!
I'm saying that at this stage, barring a change in tactical instructions for him or a sudden maturation, he's not ready to be our starting right winger. As a fan I'd hate to see the vitriol aimed his way if he fails to perform there.
Right, I get you. I think failing getting a right winger in though he has to be considered for that position as the long term option. Probably the best way is just throw him in. Most fans will give him a chance, he's already proved he's worthy of it.
Yeah he has to be an option. Although with Jose preferring to play Mata and Lingard on the right, I'm not sure if he's looking for a different profile of RW after all. Both Rashford and Martial can stay wide (if instructed to), have pace to burn and can cross with their right feet - yet they're never played there barring a couple of games.
Just do what Robert Martinez did in WC - play Lukaku on the right, Sanchez as false 9 , and martial on the left. Lukaku is not giroud and he can't bring others into play due to his poor first touch, so just move him to the right.
https://indianexpress.com/article/f...ctical-genius-romelu-lukaku-on-right-5250310/
This probably may convince Martial to stay as well.
https://indianexpress.com/article/f...ctical-genius-romelu-lukaku-on-right-5250310/
This probably may convince Martial to stay as well.
Yeah, even Mane had to move to the left after the signing of Salah but has adapted to the role brilliantly. You don't have to be a traditional winger and touch the byline if you are playing on the side of your favored foot. Mbappe and Mane have shown that you can be a real goal threat on both sides. Only a one-trick pony who can only cut in and shoot will struggle to adapt to that role. Rashford has more in his locker than that imo.
If We don't sign any new Right Winger I'd rather see Rashford there instead of Mata.
It looks like we are signing no one this summer. Let's hope one of Rashford or Martial make it their own spot. Mata can be the cover and play against teams that sit back.
Just swap Martial for Willian and be done with it. We'll have a better season with a good RW who wants to be here and fits Mourinho's tactics, than if we keep a want-away player who Jose will never start
I think if we sign Toby, we'll go 352. Different conundrum then as you not talking about a winger in the same way....
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Totally agree with this!
Perisic at this late stage would be ideal,other than that, definitely swap Martial for Willian and maybe insert a buy back clause.
We should have gone for Zaha.
He's a winger who runs at defences and wins lots of fouls.
He's a winger who runs at defences and wins lots of fouls.
This is the best option if we aren't signing anyone. Lukaku is the best crosser we have. It's a waste to have him in the box and nobody capable of creating any chances from wide. Playing an interchanging front 3 with Lukaku drifting to the right, Sanchez as number 9 and Martial left will help us create more chances to score. We need proper width from wing backs though to allow this front 3 to link up and interchange freely.
DDG
Bailly new cb lindelof
Dalot Matic Pogba new LB
Lukaku Sanchez Martial
Or
DDG
Bailly new CB lindelof
Valencia Matic Fred new LB
Pogba Lukaku Sanchez
Either of these two teams would work if we aren't signing a RW but it still needs a CB and LB to work.
Bailly new cb lindelof
Dalot Matic Pogba new LB
Lukaku Sanchez Martial
Or
DDG
Bailly new CB lindelof
Valencia Matic Fred new LB
Pogba Lukaku Sanchez
Either of these two teams would work if we aren't signing a RW but it still needs a CB and LB to work.
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I've got a funny feeling we are going to play just Sanchez and Rom up front.....would explain a lot if the Toby signing is to play 3 at the back.
For 75 million? Even if we have a 25% sell on clause, he's not worth it
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