Right Winger... Who do we go for?

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If it is 70M for Pulisic or Zaha I will pick Zaha anytime.


Mou has no time and patience to develop young player at the moment. He is in 3rd year of his contract and under great pressure to deliver result. He needs player that can contribute and deliver right away. so no matter how bright the future or how high the ceiling Pulisic has Mou won't go for him as starter for the right wing. As a backup may be just like Diogo Dalot

Mate not to be rude, but you clearly didn’t read my whole response. I even said

That being said, I do think he has a ways to go before he's worth the prices being quoted for him, and BVB is a good place for him to do that. Another year or two at Dortmund and, if he continues to progress, we should be all over it.

Bold added for emphasis. I’m happy to have a conversation on the matter, but that won’t happen if you talk past me rather than engaging with and responding to what I actually posted about.
 
Injured. Bullet dodged.

Would rather go younger; Pulisic or Guedes for me.

Woody ought to consider alternatives to Willian and just plan for the future (likely one w/o Mourinho).
We really need to get on Pulisic. America throughout its history has been known for its great right wing.
 
I think we are going to end up signing Willian, he would improve our RW.

The main concern about Willian is his price considering his age.

I wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea use that money to sign Pulisic/Bailey to replace Willian.
 
Zaha is certainly a good option however if Mou wants a 'Giggsie' classic type of winger then he should have a look at Chiesa. He might get the man he wants there. I am also a big fan of Bernardeschi. He had a rough patch at Juventus (they basically brought him as cover) but I can see him develop in the Willian type of winger Mou craves for. Unlike Willian though he's got an eye to goal which I think its a bonus.

I doubt we'll be adding a winger though. Mou said we will be lucky if we add 1 more player and that player will probably be a CB.
 
was surprised we didn't bring in Martins given that he was free.... would have been a good squad option and if we sold him in a year or two it's all profit
 
Zaha could be a good option at a proper age. Do we have any buy back clause or anything like that ?? We have some clause for Memphis IIRC.
 
Zaha could be a good option at a proper age. Do we have any buy back clause or anything like that ?? We have some clause for Memphis IIRC.

I think we have a significant sell on clause, which would of course make any deal cheaper for us. Has he not been playing more through the centre for Palace though?
 
I think we have a significant sell on clause, which would of course make any deal cheaper for us. Has he not been playing more through the centre for Palace though?

Great, even better. And he has played mostly on the RW I think, but I maybe wrong on that. Still, the important point is that he can easily play RW and is the exact type of player we need. It seems so obvious but we don't seem to be interested in him at all.
 
I'd prefer Lingard to Zaha alllll day long. Zaha's good for mid table teams but not top teams. He has zero technique, it could be seen by the way he strikes the ball when shooting or crossing.
 
I would take pulisic over dembele because the guy loves Man Utd! We don't need another AdM or Martial who down tools the moment things go south. We need players who really want to be here.
We also don't need another Herrera or Mkhitaryan just because he loves the club. Not saying Pulisic will turn out average, but from what I've seen I prefer the talent and ceiling of Dembele. In an ideal world we keep Martial and get an attacking manager in next year to rule over these options.

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I'd prefer Zaha to anyone.

He's unpredictable for opposing full backs and carried Palace on his own steam - get him.
 
Zaha terrorizes defences and wins many freekicks.
 
Monchi is supposed to be a god among mere football mortals, so maybe we should be examining Roma's post-Malcom shortlist, which, according to the Italian press, consists of Thauvin, Bailey, Pulisic, Oyarzabal and Suso.
 
Monchi is supposed to be a god among mere football mortals, so maybe we should be examining Roma's post-Malcom shortlist, which, according to the Italian press, consists of Thauvin, Bailey, Pulisic, Oyarzabal and Suso.
Championed this guy a while ago. More LW though, although can play on both.
 
Glad we got Salah and Mane when we did. The winger/wide forward market is filled with young unproven, aging unspectecular and those already at very good clubs and there's literally non of them available for a decent fee. I mean Bayern are still sticking with Robben and Ribery for a reason.

I do not envy you at all. Think the best way forward is to stick Sanchez there and have Rashford and Martial fight for LW.

If only our manager would do that!! :mad:
 
The scenes if we don't sign a right winger

Doubt we'll get one, and if Willian is the one i'm sure well have scenes anyways.. With the players who've passed us by these last two seasons, signing Willian for 60-70 million will probably warrant it to some extent aswell.

I'd prefer Lingard to Zaha alllll day long. Zaha's good for mid table teams but not top teams. He has zero technique, it could be seen by the way he strikes the ball when shooting or crossing.

Seriously, on the wings?
I agree that Lingard has a better and more consistant overall technique that's very important at a big club, but he's not a game changer like Zaha is and has never been any good playing on the wings. He can't beat a defender, he's not particularly pacy and he's not a great crosser.

Monchi is supposed to be a god among mere football mortals, so maybe we should be examining Roma's post-Malcom shortlist, which, according to the Italian press, consists of Thauvin, Bailey, Pulisic, Oyarzabal and Suso.

Apart from Suso and Oyarzabal they're all pretty well known and have been regularly mentioned on here. If we weren't interested in Malcom, which I don't see how we could've been, I don't see us having any interest in the rest either.
 
Monchi is supposed to be a god among mere football mortals, so maybe we should be examining Roma's post-Malcom shortlist, which, according to the Italian press, consists of Thauvin, Bailey, Pulisic, Oyarzabal and Suso.

Either Thauvin or Bailey would do the job at RW for us imo
Pulisic is overrated and would cost an arm and a leg to get from Dortmund but he is an actual RW.
 
Monchi is supposed to be a god among mere football mortals, so maybe we should be examining Roma's post-Malcom shortlist, which, according to the Italian press, consists of Thauvin, Bailey, Pulisic, Oyarzabal and Suso.

He likes buying players. They can field two strong teams, with many of the players being relatively young.
Would not mind him if we in the future were to appoint a DoF, as few or none of the players he have brought to Roma has turned out to be "Darmians". But this could also be due to good coaching.
 
I think we are going to end up signing Willian, he would improve our RW.

The main concern about Willian is his price considering his age.

I wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea use that money to sign Pulisic/Bailey to replace Willian.
We should be signing whoever Chelsea would sign to replace him.
 
We should be signing whoever Chelsea would sign to replace him.

If we sign a RW, it will be Willian. Based on our current attacking system(lack of?) Willian is the one likely to perform best.
Signing young/inexperienced players for a team with little instructions/plans on how to attack is not the way to get immediate results.
If you are thinking next season/next manager/long term future, then i agree with you. But with how the situation is today, with Mourinho being the manager, signing Willian is sadly enough the best option.
 
If we sign a RW, it will be Willian. Based on our current attacking system(lack of?) Willian is the one likely to perform best.
Signing young/inexperienced players for a team with little instructions/plans on how to attack is not the way to get immediate results.
If you are thinking next season/next manager/long term future, then i agree with you. But with how the situation is today, with Mourinho being the manager, signing Willian is sadly enough the best option.
I get your point. For the upcoming season or two under Mourinho, Willian might be the best bet. I'm thinking more long term. Mourinho will likely be gone in 1-2 years. And even if he gets Willian and whoever he wants he's not likely to get us the PL or CL in the time he has left. Would be better if we had a DoF in charge of signings, so that each manager wouldn't have to overhaul the squad so much.
 
I get your point. For the upcoming season or two under Mourinho, Willian might be the best bet. I'm thinking more long term. Mourinho will likely be gone in 1-2 years. And even if he gets Willian and whoever he wants he's not likely to get us the PL or CL in the time he has left. Would be better if we had a DoF in charge of signings, so that each manager wouldn't have to overhaul the squad so much.

Get Monchi and Eusebio Di Francesco before next season and i will be happy.
 
Either Thauvin or Bailey would do the job at RW for us imo
Pulisic is overrated and would cost an arm and a leg to get from Dortmund but he is an actual RW.

Didn't Thauvin bomb at Newcastle?

All young unproved and present equal risk.

If Richarlison is rated at upto 50mil, I'd gladly pay 60mil for Pulisic.

The Zaha comments are interesting, he's shown great form down the middle for Palace, but he has been here and somewhat failed. Is he better at RW than Mata/Lingard etc? I'd say he probably is - he is pacy direct and a bit dynamic - nothing like we currently have

I've lost hope on Bale and Willian will end up at Barca, although I wouldn't be over the moon with Willian he's a damn sight better RW than Mata/Lingard/Rashford & Martial so......
 
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