Right Winger... Who do we go for?

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TheRedHearted said:
all the shirt sales tho. first american playing for us. would be huge
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Yorke, Veron, Kleberson, Howard, Anderson, Spector, Forlan, Heinze, (Hargreaves), Tevez, Valencia, Chicharito, Pereira, Rojo, Romero, di Maria ... lots of Americans, and I’m sure I’ve forgotten some.

Ed.: Like Rafael, Fabio, Possebon and not to forget James Brown.
 
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YouOnlyLiveTwice said:
Doubt it. His highest goal tally in a season is 6. He has barely played for Barcelona in his time there. Not exactly United quality.
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Hasn't he played mostly as a right back anyway? The rare times he has actually played. Though he probably isn't United level you're right there.
 
Think it’ll be Sanchez. Front three of Martial, Lukaku and Alexis.
 
Grande said:
Yorke, Veron, Kleberson, Howard, Anderson, Spector, Forlan, Heinze, (Hargreaves), Tevez, Valencia, Chicharito, Pereira, Rojo, Romero, di Maria ... lots of Americans, and I’m sure I’ve forgotten some.

Ed.: Like Rafael, Fabio, Possebon and not to forget James Brown.
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He is referring American as citizens of United States, not people who came from Brazil, Canada, Mexico, South America and Caribbean.
 
We need to give this guy a chance and save money rather than go for Malcolm, Bailey etc.
 
If Barca sign Griezmann whilst already having Messi, Suarez and Coutinho then I honestly believe they’d sell Dembele if we offered them their money back on him and at his age he’s as good a long term buy as there is.
 
davidmichael said:
If Barca sign Griezmann whilst already having Messi, Suarez and Coutinho then I honestly believe they’d sell Dembele if we offered them their money back on him and at his age he’s as good a long term buy as there is.
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No chance whatsoever. Consider the ages of Messi and Suarez. They won't be around forever.
 
SS said:
No chance whatsoever. Consider the ages of Messi and Suarez. They won't be around forever.
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Suarez would be replaced by another striker but Messi isn’t going anywhere anytime soon, Griezmann is 26/27 so approaching his prime as is Coutinho.

I don’t see Dembele being happy about a place on the bench especially at his age and there’s been plenty of ex Barca players like Abidal or Spanish pundits that have said exactly the same thing too, think how much Barca have spent over the past 12 months (not including potentially Griezmann) and it’s genuinly not as clear cut no as maybe you think.
 
davidmichael said:
Suarez would be replaced by another striker but Messi isn’t going anywhere anytime soon, Griezmann is 26/27 so approaching his prime as is Coutinho.

I don’t see Dembele being happy about a place on the bench especially at his age and there’s been plenty of ex Barca players like Abidal or Spanish pundits that have said exactly the same thing too, think how much Barca have spent over the past 12 months (not including potentially Griezmann) and it’s genuinly not as clear cut no as maybe you think.
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No chance they’d let him go. You make it sound like they’re overloaded with talent, there’s plenty of room for game time even with Griezmann signing and another striker if Suarez left.
 
Pexbo said:
No chance they’d let him go. You make it sound like they’re overloaded with talent, there’s plenty of room for game time even with Griezmann signing and another striker if Suarez left.
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Messi, Suarez, Griezmann and Coutinho into 3 starting spots isn’t overloaded with talent when you also throw in Dembele and even another suggested striker ?
 
davidmichael said:
Messi, Suarez, Griezmann and Coutinho into 3 starting spots isn’t overloaded with talent when you also throw in Dembele and even another suggested striker ?
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The other striker was suggested as a Suarez replacement.

Four players for three spots isn’t overloaded. We’ve got 6.
 
Pexbo said:
The other striker was suggested as a Suarez replacement.

Four players for three spots isn’t overloaded. We’ve got 6.
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Sorry I pressed post as I realised what you meant, that’s still 5 into 3 spots and other than Sanchez none of our 6 is as good as Barca’s 5 and none of Barca’s 5 would be happy benched as they’d all get into any other team in the world other than maybe Real.

I’ve seen lots of little things being quoted/reported about Dembele being a write off or how he won’t fit/play if/when Griezmann signs and that was before Coutinho also signed, I’m not saying it will happen or that Barca would sell but there’s ex Barca players and pundits/reporters talking about Dembele leaving although we’ve not been linked ourselves.
 
I don't think we'll be looking at forwards this summer. Jose said as much. Gomes turns 18 before the start of next season. I think he'll be promoted as a first team back up.
 
Scholsey2004 said:
I don't think we'll be looking at forwards this summer. Jose said as much. Gomes turns 18 before the start of next season. I think he'll be promoted as a first team back up.
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Tahith Chong should be promoted ahead of Gomes imo...
 
Adnan said:
Chong has outshone Gomes everytime they've both been on the pitch together. Chong is also a much better fit for the RW..
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I didn't say gomes was for the right wing, he plays left and center. Gomes has frequently been with the first team though and Chong hasn't. Mourinho obviously views gomes as being closer to the first team and its what he thinks that matters.
 
Scholsey2004 said:
I didn't say gomes was for the right wing, he plays left and center. Gomes has frequently been with the first team though and Chong hasn't. Mourinho obviously views gomes as being closer to the first team and its what he thinks that matters.
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The only reason I see why Chong hasn't been involved with the first team yet is due to him coming back from a very serious injury not long ago.

Chong is quite simply the best attacker we have at youth level and he's been proving that consistently since he came back from injury.
 
I dont think we will go for an attacker as Rashford isnt getting any real game time. Unless we let him, Martial or Lingard leave, but dont see that happening, unless someone wants to leave.
 
Adnan said:
The only reason I see why Chong hasn't been involved with the first team yet is due to him coming back from a very serious injury not long ago.

Chong is quite simply the best attacker we have at youth level and he's been proving that consistently since he came back from injury.
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I'd still say gomes is further on the conveyor belt. He's been getting first team minutes and he's already in the managers thoughts. Chong might start coming into fist team consideration some time before the end of the season but gomes is already at that stage now. The manager seems to be focused on bedding in mctominay now with gomes being introduced to the squad. I'd expect gomes to be bedded in next season with another player being introduced in a similar fashion.
 
wolvored said:
I dont think we will go for an attacker as Rashford isnt getting any real game time. Unless we let him, Martial or Lingard leave, but dont see that happening, unless someone wants to leave.
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I doubt rashford or lingard would be allowed to leave. There's benefits to morale having players groomed from within the club in your squad. I'm not 100% convinced martial is viewed as indispensable to the manager, despite having had a productive season. I'd still be surprised if he was allowed to leave any time soon though.
 
Scholsey2004 said:
I'd still say gomes is further on the conveyor belt. He's been getting first team minutes and he's already in the managers thoughts. Chong might start coming into fist team consideration some time before the end of the season but gomes is already at that stage now. The manager seems to be focused on bedding in mctominay now with gomes being introduced to the squad. I'd expect gomes to be bedded in next season with another player being introduced in a similar fashion.
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Gomes has been underwhelming in the u-23 team thus far, nevermind being promoted to the first team full time.
 
Adnan said:
Gomes has been underwhelming in the u-23 team thus far, nevermind being promoted to the first team full time.
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But he is getting first team recognition though. He's regularly making squads now and he's even occasionally getting to play albeit as a sub for a few minutes a time. Chong isnt getting anywhere near that recognition yet.
 
Scholsey2004 said:
But he is getting first team recognition though. He's regularly making squads now and he's even occasionally getting to play albeit as a sub for a few minutes a time. Chong isnt getting anywhere near that recognition yet.
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Do you watch the u-18s or u-23 team regularly?

Because if you did, then it's pretty clear that Chong has been out performing him and it's not even close right now. If anyone out of the two is deserving of a chance in the first team, it's Chong without question right now. He wouldn't just make up the numbers either with RW a problem position for us right now and Chong being a player who plays in that position.

Gomes has been struggling with the step up to the u-23s. So I find it difficult to believe why you think He should be used as a back up in the first team when he needs to prove himself at reserve level...
 
Scholsey2004 said:
But he is getting first team recognition though. He's regularly making squads now and he's even occasionally getting to play albeit as a sub for a few minutes a time. Chong isnt getting anywhere near that recognition yet.
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Hillary Clinton used to live in the White House, but she's not orange...

Chong should be in the first team plans first, his position is of most value.
 
Adnan said:
Do you watch the u-18s or u-23 team regularly?

Because if you did, then it's pretty clear that Chong has been out performing him and it's not even close right now. If anyone out of the two is deserving of a chance in the first team, it's Chong without question right now. He wouldn't just make up the numbers either with RW a problem position for us right now and Chong being a player who plays in that position.

Gomes has been struggling with the step up to the u-23s. So I find it difficult to believe why you think He should be used as a back up in the first team when he needs to prove himself at reserve level...
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Well said buddy.
 
@Adnan @Valar Morghulis

I don't think @Scholsey2004 was saying that Gomes is playing better than Chong.

What I think he is saying is Gomes is already getting recognised by Mourinho hence why he is in fa cup squads. Chong isn't getting that recognition which tells you Gomes is currently in front of Chong in terms of making the first team squad. Regardless of who had been performing better at u18 or u23.

I agree that Chong has been outperforming Gomes - maybe he will get his shot soon. I hope both can go on next season's pre season tour.
 
JJ12 said:
@Adnan @Valar Morghulis

I don't think @Scholsey2004 was saying that Gomes is playing better than Chong.

What I think he is saying is Gomes is already getting recognised by Mourinho hence why he is in fa cup squads. Chong isn't getting that recognition which tells you Gomes is currently in front of Chong in terms of making the first team squad. Regardless of who had been performing better at u18 or u23.

I agree that Chong has been outperforming Gomes - maybe he will get his shot soon. I hope both can go on next season's pre season tour.
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If Mourinho has Gomes ahead of Chong who has outperformed him in literally every game they've played thus far in their fledgling careers, then that's bizarre to say the least..

But hopefully it's just the club being cautious with Chong due to him coming back from a very serious injury...
 
The thing with Gomes is the club have invested a lot of money in keeping him with that new contract, that's why he'll be a priority for Jose over Chong IMO.
 
Adnan said:
If Mourinho has Gomes ahead of Chong who has outperformed him in literally every game they've played thus far in their fledgling careers, then that's bizarre to say the least..

But hopefully it's just the club being cautious with Chong due to him coming back from a very serious injury...
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All we can go by is who has had first team opportunities - Gomes has had 3/4? Chong has had none.

Could be something, could be nothing.
 
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