Richarlison - Joining Everton for £50m

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roonster09 said:
We will make a huge profit if he is sold for big fee. Don't think they will sell him for any less than 50-60 million considering Ox with year left on his contract went for 35 million, Richarlison costs 50 million.

Hopefully when Zaha is sold, its for huge fee. We have big sell on fee, confirmed by Crystal Palace owner.
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Yeah and apparently it's a big one as per palace's owner's words. We also have first refusal in case we wanted to try and get him back.

Sarni said:
Well that could actually mean they would prefer to keep him and sell him for less when he is a year away from being expired or let him run down his deal if they don’t receive most of the fee.
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Well, He has a contract until 2022. so if we are in that situation, he would be 29 i think, a year before he'd be 28, so pretty sure they wouldn't risk it. he'll be sold the next couple of years i think.
 
Like Wilf Zaha, Richarlison has a couple of games against one of the top teams where he looks unplayable and every start screaming themselves and linking him to a move away. But if you watch him over the course of the season he isn't all that.
 
BBC say that "Everton were believed to be willing to pay about £35m but there are likely to be clauses that will take the deal closer to Watford's asking price of £50m"
Telegraph, Sky and Guardian have gone with a straight £40m
 
Peyroteo said:
The transfers of midtable Premier League teams never fail to amaze me.
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Imagine just 5 years ago someone telling you Everton would buy a player for £50m. Or West Ham one for £40m.

Just mental.
 
Orc said:
Imagine just 5 years ago someone telling you Everton would buy a player for £50m. Or West Ham one for £40m.

Just mental.
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Then tell them that the player in question only managed 5 goals and 4 assists in 38 games and went missing for the majority of the season. They would think it was some sort of money laundering scam.

Richarlison is obviously talented, has worked with Silva before (he obviously trusts his talent) and Everton did need a bit of pace and trickery going forward, but the fee is absolutely crazy. He's only 21 so perhaps he will end up justifying it, but surely Everton could have looked outside of the league? Weird amount to pay for such a hot and cold player.
 
the_irish123 said:
Its not 50m!!!!!!
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It's not, but the fee is still pretty crazy for a player who really didn't have a very good season. It's very hard to make predictions for the future in this market, I keep thinking that prices will calm down but it's pretty clear that isn't happening.
 
Peyroteo said:
The transfers of midtable Premier League teams never fail to amaze me.
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The sad thing is they usually pay these big fees for average players truly shocking. In no world is richarlison worth 50M.
 
One aspect regarding his off form during second half could be the non stop football. He has played continuously for the whole of last year since he came right off the peak of brazilian season and into premier league. He was also involved in u20 tournament for Brazil in early 2017.
Not that the fee is warranted based on available results. It's interesting to see if he can thrive now.
 
SportingCP96 said:
Its 35M and depending on objectives can reach 50M nonetheless he's not worth 35M let alone 50.
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People are usually complaining that add ons are not reported at other clubs! It depends on what the add ons are - if it’s staying in the PL for the next five years or for him to make 25,50 appearances etc then these payments that are very likely to be made. On the other hand, if Watford only get an additional £15m if Everton win the CL then there is not going to be any extra monies changing hands.

In any case, £35m+ for an unproven forward/ winger who hasn’t scored since November is a massive fee. Well done Watford.
 
the_irish123 said:
Its not 50m!!!!!!
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No, it is 50M.

I am sure when Everton sell a player you will be stating the fee including the add-ons. Same goes for incoming transfers. All fees have add-ons, it's normal just to use the full fee.
 
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IrishRedDevil said:
What makes this even more insane, is to think that they sold Lukaku for only £25m more than Richarlison
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Nope, its £40m more. You can't remove Lukaku's add on clauses and leave Richarlison's on. It's either Richarlison at £50m and Lukaku at £90m or £75 x £35
 
When he arrived in England he was in the middle of the season in Brazil, played a South American U-20 and had more than 30 games in his backs. He was in the peak of his season, in superior physical conditions and played well. After some months he was bellow everybody in terms of physicality and drop his form.

They probably payed this absurd value to calm down the legal situation with Everton.

I dont think this player ever had vacations since he started his professional life. Is not a wc talent. We will need to see if he can play in this level now that he had a decent pre season.

My opinion as someone who watched him since his time in the Serie B is this: Apparently Willian can play in the Premiere League. Richarlison is not inferior to Willian. No way.
 
People can say what they want about today's market, however this was absolutely obsurd when it got announced.

Chief negotiator for Everton will be fearing for his job come the end of the season I'm sure :lol:
 
Davs said:
People can say what they want about today's market, however this was absolutely obsurd when it got announced.

Chief negotiator for Everton will be fearing for his job come the end of the season I'm sure :lol:
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Why - they dont determine who to target, who to open commercial negotiations with. Watford could have been asking for £50m cash upfront to start with.
 
This transfer is getting a lot of hate but I'm pretty sure he'll do pretty well.
 
Borussin said:
No, it is 50M.

I am sure when Everton sell a player you will be stating the fee including the add-ons. Same goes for incoming transfers. All fees have add-ons, it's normal just to use the full fee.
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No it's not since quite a lot of these add-ons never get realized. Pretty sure none or very few of Martial's are fulfilled for example. Coutinho's add-ons included a CL win and stuff like that. It's normal practice to seperate them, as should be because this gives a representative view of the transfer fee. Both not mentioning the add-ons or already including them in the transfer fee are wrong.
 
think he had a very good 1st half of the season when Silva was there. so might be the man to bring the best out of him, got plenty time on his side and think he's exactly what Everton are needing, pace power and skill, might not end product all the time but he's still young and plenty time to get that right. win win for everyone this deal, Watford make a good profit, player steps up a level and is an improvement to Everton's 1st team.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
Why - they dont determine who to target, who to open commercial negotiations with. Watford could have been asking for £50m cash upfront to start with.
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Because I don't feel £50m for Richarlison is good value. regardless of whether Watford asked for £50m immediately is irrelevant. If they did, surely it's a walk away job and find somebody else.
 
Davs said:
Because I don't feel £50m for Richarlison is good value. regardless of whether Watford asked for £50m immediately is irrelevant. If they did, surely it's a walk away job and find somebody else.
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And that’s fine, but that’s got nothing to do with the person at Everton who negotiated the fee, and that was my point.
 
This kid played the whole Brazilian league, and then joined Watford and played the whole season, with no rest.

Obviously he burnt out towards the end which isn't surprising. I think we've seen he's got the talent, but it'll be a lot of pressure for him to perform.
 
ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg said:
And that’s fine, but that’s got nothing to do with the person at Everton who negotiated the fee, and that was my point.
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Does it not? Surely it does as someone at Everton said "Yes, accept £50m". Whoever that person is, I feel has made a mistake. Not a massive one by all means, he's a relatively decent player. Just even in today's market £50m from Everton is a lot to part ways with.
 
BluesJr said:
This transfer is getting a lot of hate but I'm pretty sure he'll do pretty well.
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Transfers get ‘hate’ now :lol:

Anyhow, I’m a fan of his even though he was utter shite for the second half of the season. The money involved is just ludicrous though given he had, well half a good season.
 
Orc said:
Imagine just 5 years ago someone telling you Everton would buy a player for £50m. Or West Ham one for £40m.

Just mental.
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In 5 years, those same clubs will be paying £80M for players.

Consider that back in the day of Alan Shearer, the World record fee was £15M.
The players will cost increasingly more, with the progression of time.

Also consider that Neymar's £200M fee, perhaps, wasn't so outrageous.
 
just only now realized Silva coached him at Watford, so he might see more in him than me for 40-50m it seems a lot more fora player who hasnt showed much, so let´s see how he does..
 
These transfer fees aren’t real money. They are just numbers within the micro economy of global professional ‘soccer’, basically TV money being recirculated on a bi-annual basis. It’s not real money. Just saying.
 
If Richarlison is worth this money, it makes me wonder why we missed out of Perisic due to the fee last summer.

Transfer market officially crazy.

He's a good player, but you'd expect to pay 15, maybe 20 for him at best
 
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