Replacing Fergie: Guardiola Vs. Mourinho

Pep vs Jose

  • Mourinho

    Votes: 85 52.8%

  • Guardiola

    Votes: 42 26.1%

  • Neither

    Votes: 34 21.1%
  • Total voters
    161
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Marcus said:
The special one. United does not need quitters like Pep did to Barca.
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Because Jose doesn't go from job to job??????

Not entirely sure. Of course the questions about Pep include his ability to build/rebuild a team or have success anyplace but Barca. But then again that will always be an issue if you hire a manager who only had a job at one club. You can not deny the level of success he had a Barca though.

With Jose, you know he will be successful where ever he goes, but you also know he will be looking at for his next job almost as soon as you hire him. Even if he stays we do not know if he can have long term success at a club either. He has never hung around long enough to have to rebuild a team.

The idea that Jose would bring Ronaldo home, not so sure about that. It is not like Ronaldo went to Real Madrid to be with Jose. Same with the idea of Pep bringing a bunch of Barca players with him, not sure how many Barca players are "Pep Men" as opposed to being "Barca Men"


Either would probably do the job for a few years, after that I have a feeling we are right back to looking for a new manager. But we are spoiled with having Fergie for so long.
 
Does the winner get banned? I voted Neither (Other) and my vote is for Hectic.
 
I'd hate to see Mourinho at United. Real Madrid has always been a circus, but Mourinho has shown at Chelsea and Inter as well that he's not afraid to kick up a fuss, and it all just seems a bit childish to me. Fergie hasn't sunk to those levels, even if he's not afraid to be controversial. I think that Pep would be a much better fit for United in terms of values (such as youth development), and I think he's perhaps a tad underrated as a tactician; just because Barca were never going to play long balls (shortest team in Europe, it wouldn't make any sense) doesn't mean there was no variation.

Also think that some people underappreciate the pressure that both Pep and Mourinho were/are under, managing their respective teams in Spain. Yes, it's a huge deal to follow Fergie, but Barca and Real have two newspapers each, with nothing better to write about than those two teams. At least the English media care about more than two clubs.
 
Redknapp with dream team of Phelan, Pep and Mourinho as assistants

This might not be possible so Pep as it practically guarantees Messi and Xaviesta will follow
 
Red Pavan said:
I just went for Pep, so that we can get some Barca players in. :angel:
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Yeah, that's the big issue that is certain to crop up. Even Rosell touched on it in an interview recently, hoping Pep does not come looking for players at the club wherever he ends up. I can't imagine him unsettling players but if there are players who want to come or are looking to make a move, perhaps. Then there is the issue of cantera players and poaching which I can't imagine he'd be a part of - but you never know. Perhaps Rosell was merely sending a reminder to look elsewhere rather than raid his home club
 
Sparky_Hughes said:
True.....except Jose Quit Porto, sacked by Chelsea, quit Inter and will most likely quit RM, and Pep has only had one job........which he quit.
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I chose Pep for many reason. But Mou isn't quit because of pressure. He moved to better clubs, or looking for challenge. Pep quit because he couldn't stand the pressure of winning almost nothing for the first time. Big difference.
 
someone who preserves the history of youth. based on JM's history (and pls correct me if i'm wrong here!), i don't see him being someone to (a) turn to homegrown talent (b) dip into the academy.
 
Guardiola. It's easy to point to Mourinho's winning track record, but the requirements run deeper than that.

For all his first team success, has Mourinho ever promoted a youngster into the first team? Or stayed at a club long enough to build a legacy? He's the Warren Buffett of fooball management - arrive, streamline the club so that it achieves short-term success (spending big money in the process), leave when the money runs out and accept none of the responsibility for its subsequent collapse. His modus operandi will come under extreme scrutiny once FFP kicks in in full measure.

No less a factor is the quality of the football played. Mourinho's Chelsea, even in their glorious '05 season, had a reputation for 1-0 wins and defensive football, which is hardly befitting the most successful club in England. It's the reason why Marca have been so blatant in their distaste of Mourinho.

Even Guardiola's not a perfect candidate - his lack of experience at managing players who're something other than top, top quality and Barcelona's staggering underachievement last season mean he's not the deity of football management that some would have you believe - but of the two choices, Guardiola would fill me with more confidence in a long term plan.
 
Well that's one candidate crossed off the shortlist, it seems.
 
Now it's looking nailed on that Pep will join Bayern , Mourinho seems to be the prime candidate , but who knows. Those saying neither probably want Moyes added to the choice.
 
Drifter said:
Now it's looking nailed on that Pep will join Bayern , Mourinho seems to be the prime candidate , but who knows. Those saying neither probably want Moyes added to the choice.
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I'm saying neither and I don't want Moyes added. None of those candidates feel right for United.
 
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Jamie! Jamie! Jamie!
 
Mou v Mo v Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime
 
Mourinho in the driving seat for me unless the club has a surprise up their sleeves.
 
I'd rather have Mou, but it wouldn't be at all surprising with Pep's 3 year deal that he came here after Bayern.
 
Drifter said:
Interesting,so who would you like.
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In all honesty I don't really know. In a few years maybe an Ole type guy might have built up his reputation.

At the moment I wouldn't mind having a go with Jurgen Klopp.

It's a good job I'm not in charge of hiring the new manager, really.

Key word being manager though, we don't want a "head coach" complete with a "DoF" and some other nonsense.

EDIT: God this is such a RAWKish layout for a post. I apologise deeply.
 
I don't envy the people who'll have to make this decision.
 
Orton said:
A return to Chelsea or City is inevitable for him. He wont be at Madrid past this season so the United job wont be there for him.
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Has SAF confirmed he's staying past this season anywhere? Genuine question, i seem to have missed this.
 
If Sir Bobby thinks Jose is wrong for United, that's good enough for me. So...someone else, please.
 
SteveJ said:
If Sir Bobby thinks Jose is wrong for United, that's good enough for me. So...someone else, please.
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Sir Bobby picked out and backed Sir Alex even when he had a poor start- I'd say he has a talent for picking out Man Utd manager material, so I agree.
 
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