Pretty straightforward (probably been done to death).
If you had a straight choice between the two who would you choose and why?
If you had a straight choice between the two who would you choose and why?
Replacing Fergie: Guardiola Vs. Mourinho
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Mourinho. He would bring Ronnie back to home.
Mourinhio. Born winner. Proved it in 4 teams.
I went for neither
Pep, proven and class act.
Is Pep even in the frame at this point?
Care to expand on the reasons?
Probably as much as Jose, don't worry I'm pretty sure it's just a discussion on an Internet forum, I doubt it's going to influence the choice.
I do not see either in it for the long haul.
If I had to choose between the two and there was no other option I would choose Pep.
Everything about me screams "NO!" when it comes to Mourinho but I'd take him just because I'm afraid we'll fall down the league once Fergie goes.
Mourinho - love him or loathe him the guy is successful. A winner in Portugal, England, Italy and Spain.
Pep, as good as he may be, was successful with arguably the best club side to have ever played the game, with one of, if not the best ever player in his side.
Pep, as good as he may be, was successful with arguably the best club side to have ever played the game, with one of, if not the best ever player in his side.
The special one. United does not need quitters like Pep did to Barca.
Guardiola - I'd be confident enough he'd continue on success wise from where Fergie will have left off and he'd probably play a nicer and more entertaining brand of football than Mourinho would.
I've gone for Mourinho. Replacing SAF is going to take some doing and the one guy I would absolutely trust to keep us ticking over and winning trophies is Jose, thats not to say anyone else couldn't do it but at this time he has the track record for doing it.
I don't like the controversy he seems to pick up but honestly being manager of Madrid can just about do any managers head in, it doesn't surprise me at all that things aren't so rosy of there right now. They are a fickle bunch, beat arguably one of the greatest club sides the world has ever seen to a title, fall out with half the team and fans the next year, its a circus.
I don't like the controversy he seems to pick up but honestly being manager of Madrid can just about do any managers head in, it doesn't surprise me at all that things aren't so rosy of there right now. They are a fickle bunch, beat arguably one of the greatest club sides the world has ever seen to a title, fall out with half the team and fans the next year, its a circus.
Fair point. I always get the impression that some people supporting Jose assume that he'd settle here, having sewn his wild oats around Europe and bucking a trend that's been there his entire career.
Maybe he would, he does love England. Still think its hopeful romanticism though.
I think Mourinho is the only person on the planet with an ego 'special' enough to cope with and rise above what the English media is going to hit our next manager with.
Mourinho. I think he's better equipped to be flexible and work with the kind of squad he has and still be successful. Guardiola on the other hand has only played his teams 1 way.
His act always wears out, usually in 3-4 seasons. You make a deal with the devil, prepare to pay the price
Good point.
I chose Mourinho but I wouldn't want him for longer than 2-3 years anyway. He will keep the team winning while making it easier for Fergie's true successor.
Mourinho all day long
Not many clubs willing to give him full control though.....thus why he wants to return to Britain, since two of them are here, being Arsenal and Man Utd.....and that's potentially only because Wenger and Fergie have been at both for so long, but that's what he'll get, full control. If it works, he'll stick around.
I went with neither.
As much as I like Mourinho, his attitude at times annoys me. Plus, he's not big on using youth products is he?
Pep would make us play nice football, but not the football United is known by. His transfer record isn't fantastic, and who knows how good of a manager he is. Even Sam Allardyce could have done well with the squad he had. Not saying Pep isn't a good manager, but it's questionable where he's at on a scale since he's only ever managed the best squad ever.
I'd prefer someone with United DNA in them.
As much as I like Mourinho, his attitude at times annoys me. Plus, he's not big on using youth products is he?
Pep would make us play nice football, but not the football United is known by. His transfer record isn't fantastic, and who knows how good of a manager he is. Even Sam Allardyce could have done well with the squad he had. Not saying Pep isn't a good manager, but it's questionable where he's at on a scale since he's only ever managed the best squad ever.
I'd prefer someone with United DNA in them.
If he brang us a league title or two and an old big ears I'd be willing to take the hit and replace him again.
Same for Pep then.
Truth is most managers on the continent last a 3-4 year cycle. SAF is the exception and we can't expect to find another like him.
Neither, as neither will stay for any real length of time, mourinho is a complete tosser of the highest order and Pep is a quitter.
Mourinho, if he makes us successful in the short term then quits, great, appoint whichever supposedly great long term manager you want as his successor, if we keep him on longer than that, great. He's proven himself at several clubs, albeit generally the richest around the at the time, whereas Guardiola has proven himself at one where he already had the best youth system in world football, the highest wage budget in world football, a well defined style of play and Lionel Messi about to come through, and there's nothing to indicate he'll be any more long term than Mourinho. As a straight choice it's not even close.
the next manager is going to manage us at best for 3 years. Given that, Mourinho would be an almost guaranteed success while Guardiola has also shown that he can handle the pressure. The biggest problem with Fergie's successor would be their credentials, and in case of both the options their credentials can't be doubted. I am not sure Guardiola would be as sure a guarantor of success as Mourinho, but I don't really like the Mourinho package on the whole, so would go for Guardiola.
The manager after that would be someone we should be looking at as a really long-term appointment.
The manager after that would be someone we should be looking at as a really long-term appointment.
I wouldnt necessarily mind him staying for 4 years, winning things, keeping the young squad together and in general just stabilizing things when SAF leaves and then moving on.
My thoughts as well, he has the character and the track record to navigate that tricky period. I doubt he would dismantle the side, although we would play a different brand of football.
Also has a good track record developing those working alongside him. Muppet dream is Mourinho with Solskjaer being groomed. I reckon he would be up for the challenge of catching up on CLs as well.
His issues at Real are mainly down to control and prima donnas, neither would be a problem here.
The only downside I see is the Academy would suffer, but then that's one of the elements Solskjaer can bring to the table.
He won't leave behind never mind maintain a cancerous atmosphere and no one can predict what Pep may or may not do. He's only had one job as a manager.
It's going to be so difficult for whoever it is.
Just think what De Gea has been hit with replacing Van Der Sar...it's going to be 50x worse than that. Every single loss or poor performance is going to have the media comparing the new manager with Ferguson. Not one dropped point will go by without saying he's half the manager and that he was the wrong appointment.Neither. Mourinho doesn't do long term projects and focuses on the short term winning of trophies for his own ego. His teams tend to be burnt out after a couple of seasons.
Guardiola lucked into the greatest club team possibly of all time and a man with no significant management experience could manage that club... as has been proven this year.
Guardiola lucked into the greatest club team possibly of all time and a man with no significant management experience could manage that club... as has been proven this year.
Mourinho over Guardiola, although I could take or leave Mourinho tbh.
That's what you think.
I went for Jose, as he is proven without doubt.
I still have a question mark about what Pep will do when he's not in charge of the best team in the world by a clear distance.
Mourinho BUT without putting pressure on him to bring instant results. He's the right man to build the next empire, given the time, IMO.
Jose for me if I had to choose.
Pep achieved great things with arguably the best team ever assembled, you could technically argue that it was more difficult for him to feck it up than not due the talent he had at his disposal.
Jose has done it with a number of teams, play different styles of football along the way so for that reason I'm going to go with Jose.
Pep achieved great things with arguably the best team ever assembled, you could technically argue that it was more difficult for him to feck it up than not due the talent he had at his disposal.
Jose has done it with a number of teams, play different styles of football along the way so for that reason I'm going to go with Jose.
Mourinho. I believe his hunger and ambition is more similar with SAF than Guardiola. We are yet to see what he can do elsewhere, whereas Mourinho's been around the continent. Some see that as a hindrance. But he wasn't going to stay at Porto; his reputation far exceeded theirs. Chelsea he may have wanted to stay if not for being sacked. Inter for me is a jot, as he came in, won everything, and left. Now look how Inter are. Not even in the CL, although other posters may elaborate further on that. Then onto Madrid. If Madrid comes knocking, and you've conquered everywhere else, why wouldn't you leave?
Weighing up all the pros and cons, Mourinho comes out on top for me. Plus I do actually like him. I love his charisma and personality. He has an arrogance about him that you see in United.
Weighing up all the pros and cons, Mourinho comes out on top for me. Plus I do actually like him. I love his charisma and personality. He has an arrogance about him that you see in United.
Mourinho. As perfect a set of skills and experiences for the job as you get get. Wants the job too.
I want him too, but only after SAF decides, on his own terms, that he will happily step aside.
If not, I don't want Guardiola. Would much prefer we put our faith in Solskjaer.
I want him too, but only after SAF decides, on his own terms, that he will happily step aside.
If not, I don't want Guardiola. Would much prefer we put our faith in Solskjaer.
Because Mourinho never left his club...
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