It astonishes me how many people in here rate him. I think he's been a liability for years now. The run-in under Ole when we threw away top 4 thanks largely to his abject performances in goal were the real eye opener for me.
Replacing de gea should be the priority
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Pope went to Newcastle for £10m and were stuck with this guy.
Yeah, I totally agree. I couldn't see any of our passages of play this evening.
Knowing United, we'll renew for another 4 years to protect their value.
I don't think we need to think very carefully about our one-year option on De Gea. Our thought process should be "Don't trigger it". It's that simple.
We need to sort out our midfield and attack first.
There's no way we should be renewing De Gea on £375k a week.
Wondering whether Tom Heaton would be better at this stage. Missed out on Pope.
True. The fact that he wins POTY regularly says more about the fecking state of this club rather than his ability.
We will need a modern goalkeeper to implement the style ten Hag wants.
But sadly the complete decay of the current squad, means that there are other obvious areas that need addressing. Right back, midfield and in attack.
But sadly the complete decay of the current squad, means that there are other obvious areas that need addressing. Right back, midfield and in attack.
Respectfully disagree. We have no control in games, we can’t score for toffee. Midfield and a striker are way ahead of a keeper.
Exactly. Perfectly said, architect of chaos. He is useless, end of. We should enquire about the former Madrid keeper currently warming the bench at PSG, Navas. Light years ahead of DDG.
De Gea is a problem and has been for ages. His weaknesses on the ball are a problem when we try and play out from the back. His weaknesses in the air are a problem at set-pieces and when teams pump high balls into the box. His weakness is coming off his line and being proactive in the face of through balls behind the defence are a problem when we want to play a high line. He's also prone to dreadful mistakes. We saw all of that today in the first half.
We have many more priorities.
Those who want henderson, he never showed me anything that suggested he would be good in ETH’s system either. His distribution and passing has never been that good either.
However De Gea does need replacing with a keeper that suits.
Those who want henderson, he never showed me anything that suggested he would be good in ETH’s system either. His distribution and passing has never been that good either.
However De Gea does need replacing with a keeper that suits.
Yep. What was even worse was that the club decided to reward him for that shit show and us losing a CL spot by giving him an even bigger contact. Utter madness. No wonder players aren't motivated to do well. Even if they fail they know the club is stupid enough to reward them. I sometimes wonder if the Glazers are really Americans as I don't know of any that rewards mediocrity as much as these clowns.
Keylor Navas is still a world class goalkeeper at 35, probably better than Donnarumma but PSG aren't playing him. Would be the 3rd best PL keeper after the 2 Brazilians straight away.
He would be available for peanuts, would allow us to let De Gea go for free in 2023 and we would have 2-3 years to look for a long-term replacement.
An absolute no brainer, but we probably aren't even looking at him knowing this club
He would be available for peanuts, would allow us to let De Gea go for free in 2023 and we would have 2-3 years to look for a long-term replacement.
An absolute no brainer, but we probably aren't even looking at him knowing this club
Yep.
We have a huge gaping wound from the keeper and constantly buying and playing attacking midfielders too deep.
We have a huge gaping wound from the keeper and constantly buying and playing attacking midfielders too deep.
De Gea is not even doing the basics right, never mind anything else. Any old keeper will do right now.
Thank Christ you are nothing to do with the recruitment in this club.
Thank Christ you are nothing to do with the recruitment in this club.
Why?
I'm his biggest fan but he's been shit for a good 4 years now. I'd actually rather have Navas he's been that much of a liability the last few seasons.
Don’t get the we need to sort out this and that first, he’s a huge problem now if we want to play the way the manager wants us to. Outside of the occasional worldie, he sucks at pretty much everything you need a modern goalkeeper to be. The truth is we need multiple positions fixed and in no order of relative priority as each is equally damaging to the team. In different ways.
Exactly this.
Bullshit. Any team that wishes to play a semblance of progressive attacking football has to have a keeper that is comfortable with the ball at his feet as well as coming off of his line. DDG is terrified of doing either and it’s going to continue costing us until it’s sorted. Every top manager in the world has realized that shot stopping is nice but being able to defend proactively (keeping the ball, pressing high, and sweeping up any balls in behind with the keeper) are far more important aspects of the game than a keeper that can stop a worldie now and then. Ederson is a decent stopper at best yet he’s one of the best in the world because of everything else. It’s not 2002 anymore, times have changed.
Who is the alternative?Tom fecking Heaten?
Dude, you do know coming for crosses and commanding his box isn’t something Navas is strong at? At the age of 35, he isn’t going to improve that either. Makes no sense to buy a keeper who has similar weaknesses to De Gea.
£375,000 a fecking week!
These threads are a joke. We could have four keepers and they wouldn’t stand a chance with that defence and midfield. De Gea has weaknesses that are exposed in this system, for sure, but he’s a problem that I would happily kick down the can to after getting Maguire, Dalot, Shaw, Fred and McTominay out of our club. I’d probably then look at improving the forward line before I even touched De Gea, not least because he has years left on a £350k contract. We’d only loan him and still pay half his wages anyway.
The club is in dire straits and I cannot believe anyone thinks the priority is getting rid of a goalkeeper.
he made mistakes today, the daggers are out and he’s the scapegoat. He’s also the only one that’s come out and faced the media so far to my knowledge.
The club is in dire straits and I cannot believe anyone thinks the priority is getting rid of a goalkeeper.
he made mistakes today, the daggers are out and he’s the scapegoat. He’s also the only one that’s come out and faced the media so far to my knowledge.
The fault actually is of the manufacturer of the ball because If it had special ridges then the ball would have travelled slower, and then Ronaldo would have been able to get rid of it faster as he'd have more time to think and work faster against it.
Also the blades of grass should have been taller so that they help de gea catch the ball.
After this we can also discuss the sun and how its rays were reflecting from the opposite goal post into de geas eyes causing him a lapse In concentration
I'm convinced the men in black come and do that flash thing in some of your lots eyes.
We need a ball playing GK, that has to be the requirement.
I'd buy Meslier from Leeds next summer.
I'd buy Meslier from Leeds next summer.
I don’t know man, could have bought a different one instead of investing into our 10th centerback. Or even kept Henderson as he’s at least a better distributor.
Could Heaton actually be any worse this coward.
His distribution is top class, though and he's also a great shot-stopper (something that De Gea used to be, but he's had some howlers in recent seasons). He would definitely be a huge upgrade on De Gea and we would buy some time to identify a long-term replacement. Look at Alisson, Ederson and Ramsdale. All of them have great distribution. De Gea just hoofs it long into midfield instead of a short pass to Martínez / Maguire / one of the full-backs. That's just asking for trouble, since we lose the ball a lot from these situations and end up conceding...like vs Brighton. I'm not saying Navas should be our keeper for the long term...this would definitely be a stop-gap signing, but a good one.
Did the club back him to do so?
Reports are he had a 1m budget for a keeper and hes had to fight to get it to 7m
Highest paid keeper in the world yet he's not even near the top 10 in the league.
Thats all great and all but its an absoulte nothing shot at the end of it that even a non league GK would easily save, you can analyse a load of small mistakes that are going to happen in every game or you can analyse the big basic mistake that was the cause of the goal.
Now all GK's make mistakes from time to time, but how many times have we seen similar mistakes from de gea now? Basic basic mistakes. Followed up by the second goal caused by his poor distribution, the third goal partially caused by his non-exsistent command of area and the fourth by his non existent sweeping skills and his cowardice approach to one on ones and we get the full house.
6 goals conceded and De gea's weak goalkeeping has played a pretty big hand in all 6 of them. Thats pretty damming for the worlds highest paid GK.
It would be nice to not go behind and give teams a massive leg up thanks to weak GK, god forbid we actually keep a clean sheet.
Cos he was also at fault for the midfielders and attackers not being able to pass in the Brentford half and get proper shots in
How does that even compute? Its pretty much the other way round esp in case of the defence. Before the start of the season, GK wouldn't have been way down the ladder in terms of priorities to replace for me. But given the last two games, he has shot right up, just behind getting a DM.
Yes him. And a new CB. and a DM. and two new CMs. and three new attackers. And a new RB.