I think Diarra is an allrounder but he seems the most developed of them all. At only 21 he looks ready to make the next step. It would be amazing if we can somehow get him despite Chelsea (they don't need more DM/CM do they? They're also planning to bring back Andrey Santos).
Replacing Casemiro
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Sekou Koné should start getting some minutes next season for sure. Season after that, he should be pushing to be a regular starter. Obviously this is all dependent on him not getting a hamstring or thigh strain and subsequently missing 3 months of football, then another 3 months for good measure - which of course cannot be ruled out.
I can't see Amorim or the club's football logic being swayed by Casemiro's family being settled in. They will almost certainly try to get him and his salary off the books this summer. It would be bad business to simply keep him a 300k/week 33 year old bench player loitering around for a year.
They can try all they want, if Casemiro doesn't want to move there's nothing they can do
I suppose it depends on whether Casemiro wants to spend his final year in a miserable exile of training with the reservers. His utility as a 34 year old next season who has barely seen the light of day this year, won't be very much to Amorim or the club - especially with the likes of Collyer emerging as a solid player.
That's exactly what I think he will do, if he is not provided with chances to play. Pick up his massive salary, train like a professional and see out the year. The guy has a full trophy cabinet already, so why would he care about the chance to win the Saudi Pro League or get a few appearances for a midtable club in Spain?
I hope you are right that we get his salary off the books, but with this club I am not optimistic about anything really.
Yeah I guess so. If he wants to conclude his time at United as a passenger who simply collects his wages, then there's little the club can do. Although I suspect he may have more pride than to allow his career go out with a wimper, when he could take a loan to Spain or elsewhere, and still collect his full wages.
His recent quotes about being happy were essentially him making it known that’s exactly what he will do. He’s not leaving unless he gets paid off, he’s not wanted by the Saudi clubs so it’s a move to MLS or Turkey. That’s going to mean Utd covering a lot of his wages and only receiving a small transfer or loan fee.
I expect he will leave but it won’t be a good deal financially for us.
Why would he be banished and training with the reserves? Has he been unprofessional? Has he disrespected his Coach or disrespected the club? Or is this just what you would do because you dislike him playing for Utd?
He's at a point in his career where he can do a Bale if he's comfortable at Manchester United and there isn't an offer that would interest him. He's had a very succesful career already so it's up to him.
I don't think he would unless there's an issue. At 34, he simply wouldn't play much, which calls into question why United would squander a bench place for a player whose contributions are virtually non-existent, to the detriment of a younger CM who can actually contribute regularly.
Yes true, he does seem like the most developed of them all. Chelsea do have tons of CMs but when has that ever stopped them under these sporting directors. I also had a look at the Monaco DM, Soungoutou Magassa. 21 and quite experienced given his age. He has height and athleticism, one thing I also like about him is that he's also played as a LCB in Hutter's 343 so would add great utility value for us if we had a look at him.
Out of our price range but I’d prefer someone like Vitinha alongside Ugarte
I actually think Casemiro will have a bigger role in the team next season. He's not going anywhere so his replacement will be next seasons headache. This last few weeks his appearances and cameos have been really positive. Dare I say, he's played better in the CM positions that Kobbie has this season.
It was one game bro. One game against a physically weaker side who played much slower football than EPL teams. Sure he's more useful than the hate he gets. But he is not suited to Amorims system. And he's clearly regressing physically.
People were shitting on ETH for Casemiro's performances. But Case hasn't won any favours with the new manager either. Maybe it wasn't about ETH's system, or Amorim's, rather just that Case's legs are gone and especially so for a PL midfielder
Read what I put, bro. His cameos have been largely positive. He won't be replaced this summer.
Vitinha would be a dream signing. But it's almost impossible to get him out of Paris at this point in his career.
Yeah plus he’s literally just signed an extension
Spot on, and yes, sadly he's not going anywhere unless PSG wants to sell.
Do we even need to replace Casemiro? Ugarte has effectively replaced him so I dont see us signing another holding midfielder in the summer. We need more of an all rounder. Somebody similar in profile to Zubimendi would be ideal.
We probably need at least one other option in CM. Even if Bruno’s kept as the DPL next to Ugarte we’ve only got Collyer and Mainoo behind them.
I think you’re right it needs to be someone woth a broad skill set.
Carl Anka mentioned 08’ Carrick as an ideal player for the role next to Ugarte, I can see what he’s getting at and Zubimendi would definitely fit that archetype.
Because he doesn’t want to leave and United has no choice? Feels like this conversation is going round in circles.
He will almost certainly stay for his last year, and simply play when called upon. At least he’ll be gone after that.
The title of this thread sounds like the sequel to ‘Looking for Eric’ 
The title of this thread sounds like the sequel to ‘Looking for Eric’
Andre looks really good.
I’m surprised there is not more hype around Andre. He looks like an excellent passer of the ball and he is also very good at winning it back. Still just 23.
Andre was available for €25m and there was posts from a few us saying we should maybe take a chance a on him a few years ago. But here we're still looking for that deep lying midfielder who can provide those incisive passes.
Yeah. But probably still available for a «fair fee» for a young, PL proven midfielder.
I would go with Ederson from Atalanta and Mateus Fernandes from Southampton. Both have engine and all round midfielders with Ederson offers more physical attribute, while Fernandes offers more technical attribute. I think both can work well together.
Atalanta would absolutely love United to get the fax machine out again...But I just don't see United having the kinda cash it would take, especially with so many fires to put out elsewhere.
Yeah he would have been a great pick up. Has gone under the radar a bit as I think he had a relatively slow start which is fair given the jump up from the Brazilian league (and Wolves’ tough start generally).
If Casemiro stays for his final year then he could be someone to look at next summer as I assume Wolves won’t want to lose him so soon.
There was a thread on the Caf about him when he was still playing Brazil (Fluminense wasn't it?) with lots of posters wanting us to sign him. That's the only reason I knew of him before he signed for Wolves.
Definitely need someone who can bridge the gap between Bruno and Ugarte, which is what an in form Case does.
Someone who is physically capable, defensively & positionally astute and has a decent passing range. Plus points if they are capable of running with the ball too. Basically an all action CM, hard to find but we can target someone who has most of the qualities, is in a good age range and shows that they can improve.
Someone who is physically capable, defensively & positionally astute and has a decent passing range. Plus points if they are capable of running with the ball too. Basically an all action CM, hard to find but we can target someone who has most of the qualities, is in a good age range and shows that they can improve.
Yeah, if we hadn't pissed all our money up the wall for overplayed, shite signings, those are the sorts of "low(er) risk" punts we could have easily taken....alas, the moaning on our wasteful/clueless expenditure has been done to death.
Agreed, Andre looks an interesting prospect. That Joao Gomes doesn't look too shabby next to him either. Think they both came straight from the Brazil league, didn't they?
Andrè should be top of our list in the summer. We are always overlooking Prem Experience. For the price Ederson would cost we could make a saving getting Andrè instead who’s already got a year experience under his belt. He’s impressed me for a while and I’m sure he plays over Ederson for Brazil.
£35-40m tops should do it. Maybe even send them Toby Collyer. FFP would benefit both clubs.
£35-40m tops should do it. Maybe even send them Toby Collyer. FFP would benefit both clubs.
Wharton.
I think we stayed away as we were looking to add height and athleticism to the midfield. Andre would not have helped us in that department especially as we lost McT.
Forget about all rounders and engines. Stuff like that should be bonuses that come after. The main remit of the next central midfielder we sign is that they want the ball a lot, pass the ball a lot, and retain it under pressure.