When you factor in wages, the two of them probably cost less than Casemiro.
Replacing Casemiro
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When you factor in wages, the two of them probably cost less than Casemiro.
It needs to be someone best in class or in that bracket. We can't afford another season of mediocrity.
We’ve to get rid to replace
Financially, we can't afford best in class. For this rebuild we'll be shopping for young players (either pre-peak age range or early peak age range - U25) and cheap players (perhaps towards the end of their contract or free transfers).
There are plenty of options out there - if United are to get back to being a top 4/5 PL team, they will need to be much better at identifying the right deals than they generally have been over the past 15 years or so.
Yeah we can't afford to shop for the best in class thanks to club giving Ten Hag too much money
...just to end up buying Antony, Mount and Onana
...just to end up buying Antony, Mount and Onana
Will never understand those or Hojlund/Zirkzee, no wonder we couldn't afford to get a proper striker for Ruben in this window. Getting it back on topic who are realistic targets to replace Casemiro in the summer?
Personally I like Matheus Fernandes from Southampton, 20 years old, played brilliantly against us home and away, would be cheaper with them being relegated.
Buying Portuguese players? Don't the Caf class that as a bad idea? As in it's what Erik did.
As I have posted a few times, I wish we'd sign Hugo Larsson, but I'm starting to realize that he probably would be too expensive, since Frankfurt is not an easy club to deal with (see Kolo Muani, Marmoush, etc).
Another player I was interested in was Ezequiel Fernandez but he seems to have moved to the Saudi league, which I didn't know. So, I have no idea how his developed.
We really missed out on ManuSilva (had to write it like that) who just went to Benfica.
Johnny Cardoso of of Betis Sevilla could be a very interesting player, since we already have the relation with his club through the Antony loan. However it seems that Spurs have secured a strange clause to get him for cheap. If they don't buy him, I would like us to get him because I think he would be attainable for less than 35m.
We could ask Chelsea if they would give us Lavia on loan with buy option/obligation, although I am a bit reserved about his injury record. They probably don't need him if Andrey Santos returns from his loan.
Other players such as Baleba, Ederson or Hjulmand would be too expensive imo.
Surely there is no way Chelsea loan Lavia in a million years, has looked quality when he can stay fit but that hasn't been often enough.
Yes he did, we must never do it again.......
Whereas he is PL proven, albeit a truly crap Southampton team.
People would of lost their mind is we signed Van de Ven but he looks a quality player, as long as they are quality I don't care which country they are from.
As he's a hamstring injury sicknote, they'd certainly be losing their minds.
i mean it is kinda obvious to say but needs to have some damn power/pace/athleticism in there. Cant be counting on bruno at CM he is way too lightweight to hold his own in there consistently.
Yeah definitely need to add more of that
Damn Johnny Cardoso could be a great signing for Spurs. He's confirming his great form from last season and brings everything you want from a modern DM and would also suit our system perfectly and is relatively cheap. Spurs have an option to buy him for only £21m, but only valid in the first two weeks of the summer transfer window. There's no way they are not gonna sign him for that price.
Everytime Amorim mentions not repeating the mistakes of the past in the transfer window, all I can see if Casemiro's chubby little face.
Shame he is not getting a few minutes, Ruud has him and Ugarte playing fine together.
Shame he is not getting a few minutes, Ruud has him and Ugarte playing fine together.
Someone like Agoume I reckon, need the athleticism/size to pair with Ugarte and to cover WBs + young 20's, lots of upside
This is going to be a transfer that the Wilcox & Co need to get right. They need a highly functional, all action midfielder who can either play instead of Ugarte or in combination with him. Given how limited Ugarte is on the ball and is a specialist DM, I think he is needed in the squad but not so much as a starter. I would like whoever comes in to eventually replace him and have the attributes to be a long term partner to Mainoo. Mainoo will need to become a 8 long term as I don't think he will cut it at the top level as a 10. He can certainly play well enough there but I don't think he has the creativity to cement that role.
Tier 1 options: Baleba, Ederson, Ezequiel Palacios
Tier 2: Larrson, Adam Wharton
Tier 3: Dario Essugo, Pablo Barrios
Tier 1 options: Baleba, Ederson, Ezequiel Palacios
Tier 2: Larrson, Adam Wharton
Tier 3: Dario Essugo, Pablo Barrios
I'm a bit surprised we aren't linked with Gallagher the more I think about what we need. He's such a dynamic/aggressive player that carries goal threat and is good technically, I think him and Ugarte would make us so much more solid through the middle and allow more of a platform for the 10's to actually get on the ball a bit higher up the pitch. Is a cover player at Atleti but always seems to play well, reckon available for less than £30m
Not another overrated English player please.
I agree with you with the tiers and names. I would also put Johnny Cardoso in the Tier 2 category.
Why would you say he is overrated?
Now I am reading he is out of the Conference league squad, despite having recovered from his injury. Maybe Maresca just doesn't plan with him?
edit: nvm I'm reading he's still recovering
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Because he is not starting material. He only looked good in a dysfunctional Chelsea midfield, but they let him go because he just isn't gold enough, so why should we take him? At Atletico he hasn't lived up to the expectations either. For the price we'd have to pay and the limited budget we have, I'd prefer plenty of other CMs.
I'm not sure that's accurate re Chelsea, he was very good at Palace, good at Chelsea and sold for PSR. Name the alternatives you think would cost less than him?
You certainly won't be getting the best young talents, no top DM/CM will go for sub £50m so you have to gamble a little or, in this case, you hunt the value. The appeal is that if he's a well used cover player and he's seemingly not really trying to learn Spanish, you would think he might be able to be bought around or under where they bought him.
That doesn't sound like a player with the right attitude. Also, there definitely gotta be players under £50m that are better or at least more effective than him. Hugo Larsson might be around that price tag (much higher ceiling, younger), Johnny Cardoso who is one of the best DMs of La Liga would be less than 30m (unless Spurs get him with their clause first), Exequiel Palacios is also a good option, probably between 30m-40m. Just to name a few.
Johnny Cardoso!! Never heard of him but I LOVE the sound of him! Only downside is that he sounds like he could possibly have skeletons in his closet. Entirely possible that he shot a man in Reno, for example. Just to watch him die.
Weird thing to use against him, bellingham barely speaks any Spanish either but people don't question his attitude. It's just a point that if he's abroad somewhere he has no link to and is struggling to learn the language, you would think he would be open to a move + you would think Atleti would be open to sell a squad player.
Two things though, Gallagher is currently better than the two younger players in my opinion - he's like a steady 6-7/10 PL player which is not exactly easy to guarantee + I think you're way off with your price estimations:
Larsson will cost more and is a big risk - he's got like 4 years left and is a great age to develop and increase his profile/value.
Cardoso is interesting but you're ignoring his release clause given we are not Spurs?
Palacios I would like here but I would be shocked if he was available for anything close to £30m - he's got 3 years left + they are going to get CL football again, they don't need to sell.
I think people (starting from Ralf) recognized that this was an issue and I think INEOS know as well based on signings like Dorgu, Heaven, Leon, Yoro etc.
This is an issue across the frontline - Amad, Bruno are pretty lightweight for #10s. Same with Ugarte + say, Mainoo at CM. The demand for the summer is to improve both the physical and technical profile through the middle.
Replacing a player that maybe gave us 2 months of good from shouldn't be overly difficult.
I don't know.. Maybe it's just a personal opinion. Maybe we need more opinions. Is here anyone else who would take Gallagher?
Need to watch him play. Only really heard of him due to the Spurs option. Is he a B2B or DM?
Cardoso defends. That's it. Not good enough for me.
Oh of course - all personal opinion, Gallagher might not even be available or any of those names might have no interest in us. I appreciate you coming up with some names though, it will be interesting to see the route ineos take that’s for sure.
Gallagher and Ugarte, wed be the team with the most bookings in the league comfortably….
because he scored some goals and people think that means he'd be good up front
this is what the game is like for some people
He came on 93rd minute, was it Ruben telling him its your punishment for not picking other options in Jan?
Frenkie out of contract summer 2026. Read on BBC today Barca will encourage a transfer this summer to still catch a fee, and that Liverpool is interested.
Guess with most of his deferred wages settled, an outgoing move is more realistic for this summer compared to earlier years.
Would be sour if he’d sign for Liverpool instead of us. Him and Ugarte would be a nice combo
Guess with most of his deferred wages settled, an outgoing move is more realistic for this summer compared to earlier years.
Would be sour if he’d sign for Liverpool instead of us. Him and Ugarte would be a nice combo
Agreed, he would be an excellent addition. And Ruben gave him he debut at Sporting.