Rene Adler

Did Leverkusen say they will not trade him? Will it be cheaper to buy him on a transfer rather than buying out his entire contract?
 
Generally I agree, the business of judging goalkeepers for a top club is extremely difficult. Of course you can look for things like commanding the area, being good on crosses and reflexes (although reflexes would surely come under stop stopping?), but you can't really account for things like lapses in concentration. Foster didn't have any fundamental flaws, he was an excellent shot stopper, good on crosses, the reason for his failing at United was that he kept dropping clangers, he didn't have the mentality or the concentration. The problem is, how do you judge a keeper's mentality and his ability under pressure without taking a punt on him? I don't think you can. We took a punt on Foster, we'll probably do the same with PIG or Lindegaard, or someone like de Gea. I can't see us making another signing like van der Sar, most goalkeepers who have proven themselves at the highest level don't move to midtable Premier League sides. Except maybe Pepe Reina.

You look how he performed in really high presure games like the world cup play off game away in Russia.
 
Bayers Torwart verrät in BILD Rene Adler: Vertrags-Poker bis April auf Eis! - Sport - Bayer Leverkusen - Fußball Bundesliga - Bild.de

He says.........
- No further talks with Leverkusen about a new deal
- But so far also no contact to United
- But he says again that United is his dream club

He also says that there is a clause regarding United in his contract.

BILD: Würden Sie sich wieder eine exklusive Ausstiegs-Klausel für Man Utd verankern lassen?

Adler: „Es ist bekannt, dass Man Utd mein Traumverein ist und es die Klausel gibt. Aber über Vertragsmodalitäten habe ich mit Bayer noch nicht gesprochen.“

Which is the underlined bit, this is also on German teletext as well.
 
He also says that there is a clause regarding United in his contract.

BILD: Würden Sie sich wieder eine exklusive Ausstiegs-Klausel für Man Utd verankern lassen?

Adler: „Es ist bekannt, dass Man Utd mein Traumverein ist und es die Klausel gibt. Aber über Vertragsmodalitäten habe ich mit Bayer noch nicht gesprochen.“

Which is the underlined bit, this is also on German teletext as well.

Well we all know he has a clause in his contract that let's him to move to united. That's just old news.
 
Mirror running the story today
German keeper makes "come and get me" plea to United

Manchester United are set to make Rene Adler’s dream come true by triggering a £15million get-out clause.

The 25 year-old Bayer Leverkusen goalie is such an avid United fan he insisted on a release clause if the Reds came in for him.

Sir Alex Ferguson has been monitoring Adler all season as he looks for a top-class replacement for Edwin van der Sar – and now Leverkusen are bracing themselves for the bid that will take the German international to United.

Leverkusen have been trying to persuade Adler to sign a new contract, with just 18 months left on his current agreement.

But Adler wants to follow in the footsteps of his hero Peter Schemiechel by becoming United’s No 1.

He said: “I have told the board of Leverkusen that I am not willing to discuss any kind of new contract until April.

“I just want to achieve a Champions League spot with my team here now.

“But everyone here knows that I have higher ambitions and everyone knows that Manchester United is my dream club.

“The board of the club are aware of the special clause in my contract.”

He added: “As a young kid all my friends were interested in cartoons, MTV, and German television programmes, but I was only interested in one person: Peter Schmeichel, who was in goal for Manchester United.

“I thought he was fantastic and loved every minute he was on tv with United.

“My whole bedroom was full of Schmeichel posters and United things. I also had one or two other heroes in football, like Paul Gascoigne and Zidane.

“But nobody, in my eyes, was as impressive as Schmeichel.”

Van der Sar is in his sixth season at United, but time is catching up with the Dutcham who celebrated his 40th birthday in October.

He missed games over the Christmas period through injury and illness and United will look at offering him a coaching role if he brings the curtain down on his playing career in the summer.

With back-up keeper Tomasz Kuszczak also set to leave Old Trafford at the end of the season, United have already recruited Anders Lindegaard from Danish club Aalesund.

But Ferguson is still in the market for a top-class keeper. Fergie admitted recently that he had learned not to look for stop-gap measures. He wants to sign a proven number 1 in the mould of Schmeichel

And Adler, who grew up in the east German city of Leipzig, fits the profile at an imposing 6ft 4ins.
 
Oh so his release clause has come down to 15M from 20M now?

I just love the fat he's stipulated a special release clause for Manchester United only. What a star.
 
I just love the fat he's stipulated a special release clause for Manchester United only. What a star.

I know, I have not met a player who is so adamant to play for United. He deserves a chance to play for United just because of that clause he has.
 
And If Van Der Sar is offered a GK coach role at the end of the season, which I think he will, then Adler can also learn not only from the good GK coaches we have but also from VDS.
 
Buy him!! He's one of us, he's probably registered on here.
 
He's certainly very keen to get here but I haven't seen as much of him as Neuer so I can't compare.
 
I love his attitude, but the little I've seen of him he's never impressed me quite as much as Neuer. I really do hope the scouts (who have seen him a hell of a lot more than I have) disagree with me though, as it'd be fantastic to have such a big fan playing in goal for the next decade.

Hell, he's probably still my second favourite (battling it out with De Gae) to take over. Any of those three and I'd be bloody happy.
 
But is he any good, is he at the same level as Buffon, Neuer etc
 
Are you serious? Neither Neuer nor Adler are at present anywhere near the level of Buffon.
Buffon isn't at the level of Buffon anymore. Nobody is. Caesar is the closest, and even he's been having a rough patch this season from the sounds of it (although barring Eto'o who at Inter isn't).

I'd definitely take either of the Germans ahead of Buffon these days. He's far too injury prone and nowhere near as good as he once was.
 


looks like he doesn't know how to catch the ball. The couple of reflex saves they showed are nothing better compared to what Kuszczak is capable of. We all know it's not just about reflexes though and Adler doesn't strike me as a reliable, complete goalkeeper in VDS' mould.
 
Buffon isn't at the level of Buffon anymore. Nobody is. Caesar is the closest, and even he's been having a rough patch this season from the sounds of it (although barring Eto'o who at Inter isn't).

I'd definitely take either of the Germans ahead of Buffon these days. He's far too injury prone and nowhere near as good as he once was.

Injury prone he might be and it's hard to ignore, but he's still a class above compared to Adler or Neuer.

EDIT:

Many people thought the same of VDS during his days with Fulham (that he's no longer the great goalkeeper he once was) and still you see how his transfer worked out for us. I mean, Buffon is 8 years younger than VDS...

But I reckon it's very unlikely for us to bid for Buffon given his injury record and the fact he'd still cost relatively much money.
 
looks like he doesn't know how to catch the ball.
That's always been my biggest problem with him. Now I'll be the first to admit that I've only seen a couple of games and a bunch of youtube clips, but from that little I've seen he'll make the save, but too often he'll let it come back into a somewhat dangerous area of play. Whereas Neuer is more likely to either catch it or push it out. That's really the biggest difference I've seen between them personally, so I'd be happy with either. They are both significantly ahead of the other young keepers we're linked with (with the possible exception of De Gae).

Injury prone he might be and it's hard to ignore, but he's still a class above compared to Adler or Neuer.
If he could definitely get over his injuries then maybe. He had a good run last season where he was playing better than since his injuries began, but then he picked up another little knock and (from what I heard anyway, I didn't see him in the second half of the season) dropped off again.

I definitely wouldn't go so far as to say the Germans are 'nowhere near the level of Buffon' anyway. At best he might be a little better than them when he gets a good run of games. Don't get me wrong, he's still a bloody good keeper. Similar to Cech actually, good solid keeper but they're not the greats that they once were.
 
I definitely wouldn't go so far as to say the Germans are 'nowhere near the level of Buffon' anyway. At best he might be a little better than them when he gets a good run of games. Don't get me wrong, he's still a bloody good keeper. Similar to Cech actually, good solid keeper but they're not the greats that they once were.

While I agree I still think that experience is a vital part of any GK's game and you really cannot compare Buffon's experience with those the Germans possess. But I'm not against signing a young goalkeepers, in fact I'd prefer De Gea to both Adler and Neuer.
 
Adler or Neuer would be very good buys in my opinion. I would steer clear of most of the other goalies that have been mentioned, such as Enyeama and Akinfeev.
 
But is he any good, is he at the same level as Buffon, Neuer etc

Well he is as good as Neuer but not quite as good as Buffon. He has time on his hands though. He is what 24 or 25? That means he has more than 10 good years left in him.
 
Buffon might be better than Adler or Neuer today, (well, no "might" about it really,) but I don't see him as a VDS-type who can maintain top flight performances into his late thirties and beyond.
 
Injury prone he might be and it's hard to ignore, but he's still a class above compared to Adler or Neuer.

Yeah no shit. He has a 7-8 year head start on the both of them hasn't he? Why the hell would you want to compare them anyway?You can compare Adler and Neuer but not Buffon and those two. Its pretty dumb actually.
 
Sorry guys, I'm sure he's a lovely bloke & a great keeper, but we know who the usual suspects are and he ain't one of them.

Just because I've never heard of him doesn't make him a bad keeper, but...I've never heard of him...I've read the article about him so I know who he is now but why would we want him over the alternatives and £15M is a lot of bread for a keeper too who no one had heard of until the article came out.
 
Sorry guys, I'm sure he's a lovely bloke & a great keeper, but we know who the usual suspects are and he ain't one of them.

Just because I've never heard of him doesn't make him a bad keeper, but...I've never heard of him...I've read the article about him so I know who he is now but why would we want him over the alternatives and £15M is a lot of bread for a keeper too who no one had heard of until the article came out.

He was first choice for Germany before getting before the world cup, which is how Neuer got the starting spot. Just cause you have never heard of him....
 
Sorry guys, I'm sure he's a lovely bloke & a great keeper, but we know who the usual suspects are and he ain't one of them.

Just because I've never heard of him doesn't make him a bad keeper, but...I've never heard of him...I've read the article about him so I know who he is now but why would we want him over the alternatives and £15M is a lot of bread for a keeper too who no one had heard of until the article came out.

you have never heard of him :wenger: have you been working on Mars
 
Yeah no shit. He has a 7-8 year head start on the both of them hasn't he? Why the hell would you want to compare them anyway?You can compare Adler and Neuer but not Buffon and those two. Its pretty dumb actually.

Because all 3 players have been linked to us so posters are discussing which of the 3 would be the most suitable signing to replace VDS. Its not rocket science.
 
Sorry guys, I'm sure he's a lovely bloke & a great keeper, but we know who the usual suspects are and he ain't one of them.

Just because I've never heard of him doesn't make him a bad keeper, but...I've never heard of him...I've read the article about him so I know who he is now but why would we want him over the alternatives and £15M is a lot of bread for a keeper too who no one had heard of until the article came out.

So theres no chance of us signing him cos Colin from the internets never heard of him?
 
He was first choice for Germany before getting before the world cup, which is how Neuer got the starting spot. Just cause you have never heard of him....

you have never heard of him :wenger: have you been working on Mars

So theres no chance of us signing him cos Colin from the internets never heard of him?

Yep that is basically it. Bloody Colin blew it!

When ever I join the transfer muppet forum it always ends badly...

I should just stick to United & Porsche...;)

Who is this guy Adler anyway :confused:
 
When ever I join the transfer muppet forum it always ends badly...

I should just stick to United & Porsche...;)

Who is this guy Adler anyway :confused:

Mitch Conor just said he was supposed to be first choice for GERMANY at the WC this past summer but his injury let Neuer play as first choice.

He plays for Leverkusen. He is around 6.3 and is 25 years old. If you need his more of his personal info, then I suggest you look him up on Wikipedia.
 
Mitch Conor just said he was supposed to be first choice for GERMANY at the WC this past summer but his injury let Neuer play as first choice.

He plays for Leverkusen. He is around 6.3 and is 25 years old. If you need his more of his personal info, then I suggest you look him up on Wikipedia.

Is he worth £15M though?

Is it because the 'usual suspects' aren't available?