Religion, what's the point?

https://news.gallup.com/poll/341963...BFyp_tJBERadqMiu-jJbmgTsRKeJLvSYzQ334K4zSKE5A

Americans' membership in houses of worship continued to decline last year, dropping below 50% for the first time in Gallup's eight-decade trend. In 2020, 47% of Americans said they belonged to a church, synagogue or mosque, down from 50% in 2018 and 70% in 1999.
Disappointingly, religion’s power & influence in politics hasn’t abated to any similar degree. Feels even more entrenched & dangerous at times.
 
such The Satanic Verses, Ayaan Al hirsi needed full security detail when she published a critical article of Muhammed when she was an MP in the Netherlands, and then later there was the killing of Theo Van Gogh because of Submission. To add to that there was the Miss World riots in Nigeria. T
Je suis Charlie Hebdo

Blasphemy is a victimless crime. Made up to feed the ego of the devout and defend the indefensible.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/341963...BFyp_tJBERadqMiu-jJbmgTsRKeJLvSYzQ334K4zSKE5A

Americans' membership in houses of worship continued to decline last year, dropping below 50% for the first time in Gallup's eight-decade trend. In 2020, 47% of Americans said they belonged to a church, synagogue or mosque, down from 50% in 2018 and 70% in 1999.
Not soon enough.

Disappointingly, religion’s power & influence in politics hasn’t abated to any similar degree. Feels even more entrenched & dangerous at times.
The more religion declines, the more desperate the believers get, the more they are willing to justify their immoral acts in the name of god.

When sanctity of dogma is placed above sanctity of human life, shit always happens. My only hope is that there is enough rational thought left in humanity for us to survive the final death throes of religion.
 
Je suis Charlie Hebdo

Blasphemy is a victimless crime. Made up to feed the ego of the devout and defend the indefensible.


Not soon enough.


The more religion declines, the more desperate the believers get, the more they are willing to justify their immoral acts in the name of god.

When sanctity of dogma is placed above sanctity of human life, shit always happens. My only hope is that there is enough rational thought left in humanity for us to survive the final death throes of religion.

It’s definitely declining due to a variety of factors but this post is a bit harsh on believers. Most of these people simply grow up in a culture where religion is normalized. Once the culture changes, so will the attitudes of its believers.
 
It’s definitely declining due to a variety of factors but this post is a bit harsh on believers. Most of these people simply grow up in a culture where religion is normalized. Once the culture changes, so will the attitudes of its believers.
You're right. I did not mean to blindly tar all believers with the same brush. There will always be good people. Believer, or not. But sadly, there's a lot of the bad people too. More than enough to cause so much pain and suffering.

As long as sanctity of dogma is placed above sanctity of human life, shit will continue to happen.
 
You're right. I did not mean to blindly tar all believers with the same brush. There will always be good people. Believer, or not. But sadly, there's a lot of the bad people too. More than enough to cause so much pain and suffering.

As long as sanctity of dogma is placed above sanctity of human life, shit will continue to happen.

I agree with this. The doctrines of each religions will vary though and it's icons, but I don't necessarily see all religions as intrinsically bad and that they need to die out. I just that they have to be adapted to and square up to modern ethics, culture and scientfic knowledge. Some religions do in doctrine place the sancity of human life(and animal life) over dogma for instance. I think any good practioner of a religion will adopt what's good from it and discard what is clearly bad, but of course if you keep discarding more and more, you can ask yourself if it's still possible to believe in your religion of choice.
 
Aparrently a preacher was arrested for a hate crime for quoting the bible. There might be more to it than what we know atm. However it demontrates to me why you cannot offer religion special protection under hate crime laws because many of the most revered religious scriptures are themselves full of "hate crime" material.

 
Aparrently a preacher was arrested for a hate crime for quoting the bible. There might be more to it than what we know atm. However it demontrates to me why you cannot offer religion special protection under hate crime laws because many of the most revered religious scriptures are themselves full of "hate crime" material.


This seems to be it...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...-complaints-homophobic-comments-1588129?amp=1

Couldn’t care less. Arrest them for being fecking annoying for all I care.
 

I don't think it should be illegal to be fair, I just think it ideally should be challenged. I was once invited to a lecture by a Christian pastor on Buddhism who wrote a thesis on Buddhism in university and who travels to Taiwan quite often to convert Taiwan buddhists to christianity and is frustrated about how hard they are to convert. I didn't know the lecture on beforehand was basically "Why buddhism is evil". I quite enjoyed being there and being able to call out everything he got wrong, which was pretty much everything. I could have claimed offense, but i'm not an overly offended type.

I guess street preachers is a different ball game though as compared to a church, mosque or temple. I imagine it's difficult to make laws of street preaching. Ive spoken with quite lot of street protelyzers mainly Christians and Hindus, and it doesn't annoy as long as they are to able to take no for an answer.
 
I don't think it should be illegal to be fair, I just think it ideally should be challenged. I was once invited to a lecture by a Christian pastor on Buddhism who wrote a thesis on Buddhism in university and who travels to Taiwan quite often to convert Taiwan buddhists to christianity and is frustrated about how hard they are to convert. I didn't know the lecture on beforehand was basically "Why buddhism is evil". I quite enjoyed being there and being able to call out everything he got wrong, which was pretty much everything. I could have claimed offense, but i'm not an overly offended type.

I guess street preachers is a different ball game though as compared to a church, mosque or temple. I imagine it's difficult to make laws of street preaching. Ive spoken with quite lot of street protelyzers mainly Christians and Hindus, and it doesn't annoy as long as they are to able to take no for an answer.
In a place of worship is one thing, having to endure street preaching horseshit is another. In college it was terrible, especially to females or gays. Just abhorrent shit.
 
In a place of worship is one thing, having to endure street preaching horseshit is another. In college it was terrible, especially to females or gays. Just abhorrent shit.

I imagine it's somewhat worse in the US compared here in Denmark which is one of most secular western countries in the world.
 
In a place of worship is one thing, having to endure street preaching horseshit is another. In college it was terrible, especially to females or gays. Just abhorrent shit.

I literally wanted to punch a few during Mardi Gras/visiting New Orleans periodically and St Patty's in Savannah in past years, and less so in Ybor on a random night.
 
A family of Plymouth Brethren have moved in a few houses away.
The wife is huge and they have 2 of the most obese daughters I have ever seen.
I saw the man in his front garden and said hello. He blanked me completely. Ok, maybe he was deaf, so I said hello to his wife. Again, completely ignored.
So the next time I saw him, I was about to say hello, but he saw me and turned his back on me.
After that I spoke to his neighbour and he said that exactly the same thing happened to him.
Worse still, every few weeks, a load of Plymouth Brethren people descend on the his house to have their service.
They all drive huge 4x4 tanks and park with zero consideration. On pavements and across people drives.
Talk about holier than thou.
 
A family of Plymouth Brethren have moved in a few houses away.
The wife is huge and they have 2 of the most obese daughters I have ever seen.
I saw the man in his front garden and said hello. He blanked me completely. Ok, maybe he was deaf, so I said hello to his wife. Again, completely ignored.
So the next time I saw him, I was about to say hello, but he saw me and turned his back on me.
After that I spoke to his neighbour and he said that exactly the same thing happened to him.
Worse still, every few weeks, a load of Plymouth Brethren people descend on the his house to have their service.
They all drive huge 4x4 tanks and park with zero consideration. On pavements and across people drives.
Talk about holier than thou.
Yeah, Plymouth Brethren are very exclusionary socially and very protective of their female members.
 
I'd slash a couple tires parking like that. Get the feck off my drive/lawn/block.

Better yet, to avoid probable charges, I'd just call a tow truck service. Surely there's rules on blocking access to driveways/roads and on one's property.
 
I'd slash a couple tires parking like that. Get the feck off my drive/lawn/block.

Better yet, to avoid probable charges, I'd just call a tow truck service. Surely there's rules on blocking access to driveways/roads and on one's property.

Put up a sign "Satan likes the way you park", might help :p
 
I'd slash a couple tires parking like that. Get the feck off my drive/lawn/block.

Better yet, to avoid probable charges, I'd just call a tow truck service. Surely there's rules on blocking access to driveways/roads and on one's property.

My neighbour, who lives next to them asked them to move. He is a big guy and they moved pretty quick. We now know which sunday they host and so make sure we park to avoid any blockage.
 
fecker really should be nowhere near children in a public school setting with views like this...

 
What is the issue? That he refuses to use the students pronouns on religious grounds?

Seems like he should be able to voice his opinion to me, whether you agree with him or not.
Ah yes, the oft forgotten 11th commandment... “You shall use only the pronouns you think should be used.”
 
What is the issue? That he refuses to use the students pronouns on religious grounds?

Seems like he should be able to voice his opinion to me, whether you agree with him or not.

He can voice his opinion, but he can't do things that jeopardize his ability to do his job. A teacher in Norway was fired because he refused to shake hands with women, on the grounds that it was against his religion. That was upheld in court, even though he used the same argument you're using.
 
He can voice his opinion, but he can't do things that jeopardize his ability to do his job. A teacher in Norway was fired because he refused to shake hands with women, on the grounds that it was against his religion. That was upheld in court, even though he used the same argument you're using.

He can still teach gym without observing personal pronouns though, it's a case of comply or else you loose your career, I find that beyond toxic, maybe I'm just a relic.
 
Ah yes, the oft forgotten 11th commandment... “You shall use only the pronouns you think should be used.”

I'm personally not religious but I wouldn't accept being compelled/mandated to use pronouns, threatening someone's career because they disagree with a pretty new ideology is a dangerous approach.
 
I'm personally not religious but I wouldn't accept being compelled/mandated to use pronouns, threatening someone's career because they disagree with a pretty new ideology is a dangerous approach.
As a teacher, if a kid asks you to call them by a name that isn’t on the attendance roster, you do. The same applies to their pronouns. What’s going to enable me to educate a kid more effectively? Calling them what they’ve asked to be called or be a dick and call them something they don’t want to be called?

And to be clear, I was pointing out that his justification is bogus. It will take quite a stretch to shoehorn calling someone a pronoun they’ve asked to be called into being against the Bible.
 
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What is the issue? That he refuses to use the students pronouns on religious grounds?

Seems like he should be able to voice his opinion to me, whether you agree with him or not.
Wow.

There’s ignorant posts, and then there’s the post all those try to be.