Television RedCafe's Favourite TV Shows (Round 2)

[Dirty Schwein]

Seriously though maybe you should change it so people only get as many points to play with as things they vote.

For example someone voting 1. South Park 2. The Shield would give 2 points to South Park and 1 point to the Shield.

This is not a bad shout but I've spent hours counting yesterday and refuse to go back and do that again

To be fair, the way the contest is, I do truly feel the best stuff will get through.

 

[Dirty Schwein]

As an experiment I might try both methods on the votes for this round and see how big the differences are. Once all the votes are in.

I mean I'm happy to do it that way if there is a consensus.

Edit: In fact I might just do it that way. It's more work this round but think it'll lead to a fairer conclusion and less tactical voting.

 

[Scandi Red]

As long as the votes are public there will always be a loophole. If two shows are fighting neck-and-neck over that sweet 2nd place, then you could just vote for all shows (even if you haven't seen them) and put the competitor in last place.

 

[Dirty Schwein]

The rules have been updated in the OP. Will tally again today.

 

[Scandi Red]

At least that still means ranking tv shows. Rather than voting only one show in a group and giving it +3 relative to everything else.

Meh... I'd rather people just weren't dickheads, but I get that this is naive to hope for. In any case, I think it's better that a show misses out because not enough people saw it than a show missing out because 2-3 sneaky posters actively sabotaged it!

 

[RedSky]

This is why the Oscars end up being shite.

 

[massi83]

So how is it scored when people vote for only 1-4 options? If they vote for let's say 2 options, those are awarded 2 and 1 points? Because awarding 5 and 4 and 0 for the others wouldn't be very fair.

The rules have been updated in the OP. Will tally again today.

We could have gotten there on Monday, but better late than never.

 

[RedSky]

Anyway, as long as Band of Brothers wins the entire thing I couldn't care less.

 

[Scandi Red]

This is why the Oscars end up being shite.

These awards need a name in honor of all the hard work @Dirty Schwein does for us.

The Dirties? The Schweinies?

 

[Solius]

Don't allow people to change their lists and tactical vote. Jesus how pety.

People coming in voting one show and bouncing could be seen as tactical too. We're fighting back

Tbf I don't know the scores but I have a good impression that certain things are close.

 

[RedSky]

These awards need a name in honor of all the hard work @Dirty Schwein does for us.

The Dirties? The Schweinies?

I just keep thinking that Dirty Schwein sounds like an euphuism for a bumhole. So i'm the last person that should be naming this.

 

[massi83]

People coming in voting one show and bouncing could be seen as tactical too. We're fighting back

Tbf I don't know the scores but I have a good impression that certain things are close.

Yup. What is even the point of voting in a group you have seen just one show? I mean, maybe they even think it was absolutely terrible show, that they only watched because their spouse wanted to. So why get more points than other shows by default. Personally I would disqualify all 1 show voters. But we have had enough rule changes already.

 

[Dirty Schwein]

We could have gotten there on Monday, but better late than never.

I needed time to see sense.

 

[Moby]

Wow. This thread has better drama than some of the shows that got posted.

 

[Dirty Schwein]

Wow. This thread has better drama than some of the shows that got posted.

I don't know why I put myself through these every year. There's always something that makes people's blood boil.

 

[pauldyson1uk]

You have successfully fecked over Chernobyl. My favourite show in group 2

One of my Top3 best ever series.

 

[Salt Bailly]

I just keep thinking that Dirty Schwein sounds like an euphuism for a bumhole.

Because it sounds like Dirty Shrine, which, to some people, the bumhole is. @rimaldo

 

[oneniltothearsenal]

1. The Shield
2. The Americans
3. Dark

1. The Wire
2. X-files
3. Parks and Rec

@Dirty Schwein I saw you updated rules. Not sure now if it's better to vote for shows we haven't seen or leave them off the list but I guess I'll vote for all five now to give my number 1s full points.

The Shield
The Americans
Dark
Star Trek
South Park

The Wire
X-files
Parks and Rec
better call Saul
Chernobyl

 

[Dirty Schwein]

@Dirty Schwein I saw you updated rules. Not sure now if it's better to vote for shows we haven't seen or leave them off the list but I guess I'll vote for all five now to give my number 1s full points.

The Shield
The Americans
Dark
Star Trek
South Park

The Wire
X-files
Parks and Rec
better call Saul
Chernobyl

Noted. Thanks bud.

 

[Dirty Schwein]

Ok so re-tallied. Good job @hobbers and @Solius ... the new scoring system massively helped Star Trek catch up with The Americans and also fecked over Better Call Saul

 

[Scandi Red]

Ok so re-tallied. Good job @hobbers and @Solius ... the new scoring system massively helped Star Trek catch up with The Americans and also fecked over Better Call Saul

 

[Dirty Schwein]

Also just setup groups 3 & 4 and oh my... Group 4 is a real group of death with 5 absolute bangers

 

[harshad]

Also just setup groups 3 & 4 and oh my... Group 4 is a real group of death with 5 absolute bangers

Where's Spartacus at?

 

[Dirty Schwein]

Where's Spartacus at?

It's not been allocated a group yet. I'm only doing 2 a week.

 

[harshad]

It's not been allocated a group yet. I'm only doing 2 a week.

Remove head from arse and put mind to purpose

 

[Dirty Schwein]

Remove head from arse and put mind to purpose

 

[Dirty Schwein]

Succession, Breaking Bad, Sopranos, Band of Brothers and ?

Haha don't be crazy. It's not that level. But they're all really good shows and will be difficult to pick between them. One of my favourites is in it.

 

[Redplane]

Group 1:
South Park
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Dark
The Americans
The Shield

Group 2:
Chernobyl
The Wire
X-Files
Parks & Recreation
Better Call Saul

 

[oneniltothearsenal]

Noted. Thanks bud.

I've no idea if listing all shows actually helps or hurts my top picks but hopefully it helps

 

[Cole9]

Them fighting words.

Group 1:

1. South Park
2. Dark
3. The Shield

Group 2:

1. The X-Files
2. The Wire
3. Better Call Saul
4. Parks and Recreation

@Dirty Schwein

My updated list is below, as the rules have changed. The original list is above if that helps. Cheers.

I don't envy you having to work this all out and people bitching about the rules

Group 1:

1. South Park
2. Dark
3. The Shield
4. The Americans (haven't seen it)
5. Star Trek

Group 2:

1. The X-Files
2. The Wire
3. Better Call Saul
4. Parks and Recreation
5. Chernobyl (haven't seen it)

 

[Dirty Schwein]

@Dirty Schwein

My updated list is below, as the rules have changed. The original list is above if that helps. Cheers.

I don't envy you having to work this all out and people bitching about the rules

Group 1:

1. South Park
2. Dark
3. The Shield
4. The Americans (haven't seen it)
5. Star Trek

Group 2:

1. The X-Files
2. The Wire
3. Better Call Saul
4. Parks and Recreation
5. Chernobyl (haven't seen it)

Thanks mate. As for the bolded, I'm a masochist.

 

[Corey]

Haven't seen many of these so will rank the ones I have seen:

Group 1:
1) Dark
2) South Park


Group 2:
1) Chernobyl
2) Better Call Saul

 

[Withnail]

Group 1:
Star Trek: The Next Generation
South Park
Dark
The Americans
The Shield

Group 2:
The Wire
X-Files
Parks & Recreation
Chernobyl
Better Call Saul

I really need to watch more shows. I'm behind reminded of really good TV I was supposed to watch ages ago.

 

[Withnail]

Group 1:
1. South Park
2. The Shield
3. Dark

Group 2:
1. Chernobyl
2. The Wire
3. X-Files

*only voted for the shows where I have at least seen a full season to not tamper the end results.

Doesn't that mean your number 1 only gets 3pts instead of 5 as per your rules?

 

[Dirty Schwein]

Doesn't that mean your number 1 only gets 3pts instead of 5 as per your rules?

Exactly.

 

[V.O.]

So you have to arbitrarily rank shows you haven't seen or your vote counts for less than other people's?

Not expecting a perfect system by any means, but that's mental.

 

[Dirty Schwein]

So you have to arbitrarily rank shows you haven't seen or your vote counts for less than other people's?

Not expecting a perfect system by any means, but that's mental.

It doesn't do that. If my top show gets 3 points and shows 4&5 get nothing, it is +3 on both.

If I list all 5 shows, my top gets 5 points with 4th on 2 and 5th on 1 so my top show would be +3 & +4.

It basically works out quite even. Not perfect but the best we can come up with.

 

[Withnail]

Exactly.

Makes very little sense that. I'll leave in the shows I haven't watched so. Number 1 on everyone's list should surely get the same number of points?

 

[Withnail]

It doesn't do that. If my top show gets 3 points and shows 4&5 get nothing, it is +3 on both.

If I list all 5 shows, my top gets 5 points with 4th on 2 and 5th on 1 so my top show would be +3 & +4.

It basically works out quite even. Not perfect but the best we can come up with.

Ohhhhhhhhhh I see. I feel a little bit stupid

 

[Dirty Schwein]

Ohhhhhhhhhh I see. I feel a little bit stupid

It's too combat tactical voting where someone might just come in and vote 1 show. I'm sure some people are still voting tactically but at least it limits it somewhat. No way to completely eradicate it though.