Reality-Monopoly Draft

World Cup winner dropped Kopke.

Pick from default criteria, Peter Shilton.

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P-Nut - 1. Ronaldinho (9) 2. D. De Gea (13) 3. Neymar (19) 4. DROPPED 5. A. Sanchez (26)
harms - 1. DROPPED (10) 2. G. Donnarumma (20) 3. L. Figo (1) 4. R. Marquez (7) 5. L. Riva (12)
Tuppet - 1. M. Desailly (2) 2. J. Neeskens (9) 3. DROPPED 4. D. Dzajic (19) 5. L. Suarez (14)
Onenil/ctp - 1. J. Bican (D) 2. DROPPED 3. G. Facchetti (25) 4. H. Stoichkov (4) 5. J. Bozsik (8)
Pat_Mustard - 1. R. Gullit (11) 2. A. Brehme (16) 3. DROPPED 4. P. McGrath (2) 5. Paco Gento (23)
Skizzo - 1. Kaka 2. R. Dasayev 3. G. Souness 4. DROPPED 5. M. Buchan
mazhar13 - 1. D. Law (4) 2. U. Seeler (11) 3. P. Nedvěd (16) 4. DROPPED 5. J. Santamaria (19)
2mufc0 - 1. DROPPED 2. E. Davids 3. P.R. Falcao 4. Z. Ibrahimović 5. P. Shilton
prath92 - 1. M. Ballack (4) 2. T. Henry (10) 3. B. Lizarazu (16) 4. C. Tevez (18)
Chesterlestreet - 1. J. Masopust (6) 2. R. Baraja (13) 3. E. Cantona (18) 4. J. Greaves (1)
Oaencha - 1. A. Del Piero 2. R. Lewandowski 3. S. Gerrard 4. M. Hummels
Moby - 1. D. Drogba (7) 2. DROPPED 3. A.Robben (17) 4. N. Vidic (14)
RedTiger - 1. C. Seedorf 2. Batistuta 3. J. Stam 4. O Ruggeri
NM - 1. D. Edwards 2. P. Scholes 3. C. Puyol 4. John Charles
Enigma_87/Sjor - 1. A. Iniesta (10) 2. R. Ferdinand (18) 3. DROPPED (26) 4. G. Mendieta (8)
Ecstatic/MDFC - 1. M. Laudrup (5) 2. Xavi (10) 3. O. Varela (19) 4. V. Valdés (1)

Block list: Alfredo Di Stéfano, Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Cristiano Ronaldo, Daniel Passarella, Diego Maradona, Elias Figueroa, Eusébio, Ferenc Puskás, Franco Baresi, Franz Beckenbauer, Gaetano Scirea, Garrincha, George Best, Gerd Müller, Johan Cruyff, Lev Yashin, Lionel Messi, Lothar Matthäus, Luis Ronaldo, Marco van Basten, Matthias Sammer, Michel Platini, Paolo Maldini, Pelé, Rivaldo, Roberto Baggio, Romário, Zico, Zinedine Zidane

Dropped list: Frank Rijkaard, Samuel Eto'o, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Laurent Blanc, Philipp Lahm, Paul Breitner, Pietro Vierchowod, Giuseppe Bergomi, Kopke

@prath92
 
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P-Nut - 1. Ronaldinho (9) 2. D. De Gea (13) 3. Neymar (19) 4. DROPPED 5. A. Sanchez (26)

harms - 1. DROPPED (10) 2. G. Donnarumma (20) 3. L. Figo (1) 4. R. Marquez (7) 5. L. Riva (12)

Tuppet - 1. M. Desailly (2) 2. J. Neeskens (9) 3. DROPPED 4. D. Dzajic (19) 5. L. Suarez (14)

Onenil/ctp - 1. J. Bican (D) 2. DROPPED 3. G. Facchetti (25) 4. H. Stoichkov (4) 5. J. Bozsik (8)

Pat_Mustard - 1. R. Gullit (11) 2. A. Brehme (16) 3. DROPPED 4. P. McGrath (2) 5. Paco Gento (23)

Skizzo - 1. Kaka 2. R. Dasayev 3. G. Souness 4. DROPPED 5. M. Buchan

mazhar13 - 1. D. Law (4) 2. U. Seeler (11) 3. P. Nedvěd (16) 4. DROPPED 5. J. Santamaria (19)

2mufc0 - 1. DROPPED 2. E. Davids 3. P.R. Falcao 4. Z. Ibrahimović 5. P. Shilton

prath92 - 1. M. Ballack (4) 2. T. Henry (10) 3. B. Lizarazu (16) 4. C. Tevez (18)

Chesterlestreet - 1. J. Masopust (6) 2. R. Baraja (13) 3. E. Cantona (18) 4. J. Greaves (1)

Oaencha - 1. A. Del Piero 2. R. Lewandowski 3. S. Gerrard 4. M. Hummels

Moby - 1. D. Drogba (7) 2. DROPPED 3. A.Robben (17) 4. N. Vidic (14)

RedTiger - 1. C. Seedorf 2. Batistuta 3. J. Stam 4. O Ruggeri

NM - 1. D. Edwards 2. P. Scholes 3. C. Puyol 4. John Charles

Enigma_87/Sjor - 1. A. Iniesta (10) 2. R. Ferdinand (18) 3. DROPPED (26) 4. G. Mendieta (8)

Ecstatic/MDFC - 1. M. Laudrup (5) 2. Xavi (10) 3. O. Varela (19) 4. V. Valdés (1)

Block list: Alfredo Di Stéfano, Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Cristiano Ronaldo, Daniel Passarella, Diego Maradona, Elias Figueroa, Eusébio, Ferenc Puskás, Franco Baresi, Franz Beckenbauer, Gaetano Scirea, Garrincha, George Best, Gerd Müller, Johan Cruyff, Lev Yashin, Lionel Messi, Lothar Matthäus, Luis Ronaldo, Marco van Basten, Matthias Sammer, Michel Platini, Paolo Maldini, Pelé, Rivaldo, Roberto Baggio, Romário, Zico, Zinedine Zidane

Dropped list: Frank Rijkaard, Samuel Eto'o, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Laurent Blanc, Philipp Lahm, Paul Breitner, Pietro Vierchowod, Giuseppe Bergomi, Kopke

@prath92
 
Joga Bonito said:
@Balu

What's the consensus of Beckenbauer's performances in the league during the early seventies, was he held accountable for Bayern's poor performances in the league, being one of their leading players? If I'm not wrong, the players willingly decided to shift their focus and efforts on the European Cup, and it showed with their 3 consecutive European Cup victories and poor performances in the league. Also of course, he was in the midst of delivering the 1972 Euros and the 1974 World Cup, so there's that too.

Knew you've criticised Kicker's ratings before but typically enough he's just rated as World Class during those years :lol:



Any other insight on his performance levels during those years, in the Bundesliga, that you might be able to provide? Actually think I might have asked you this before but can't remember.
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Poor performances in the early 70's? Bit confused now, we won 4 league titles in the 6 seasons between 68/69 and 73/74 and finished 2nd twice, losing the league to a sensational Gladbach team. Only after the European Cup and World Cup win in '74 and after three league titles in a row (72-74), the team struggled to stay motivated for league games. With Breitner off to Madrid and Hoeneß struggling with his injury, two key players were also gone and the rest just couldn't be arsed anymore outside of big games. Add a few internal fights and Lattek getting fired during the season to it, and you have an ageing team with two all time greats that showed up in European Cup games to get the job done but didn't care about the weekly matches anymore. Don't think there's much more to the story than that.
 
Roberto Donadoni

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Won a Serie B with Atalanta in 1984

Played for them - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Donadoni

They won Serie B - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983–84_Serie_B

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P-Nut - 1. Ronaldinho (9) 2. D. De Gea (13) 3. Neymar (19) 4. DROPPED 5. A. Sanchez (26)

harms - 1. DROPPED (10) 2. G. Donnarumma (20) 3. L. Figo (1) 4. R. Marquez (7) 5. L. Riva (12)

Tuppet - 1. M. Desailly (2) 2. J. Neeskens (9) 3. DROPPED 4. D. Dzajic (19) 5. L. Suarez (14)

Onenil/ctp - 1. J. Bican (D) 2. DROPPED 3. G. Facchetti (25) 4. H. Stoichkov (4) 5. J. Bozsik (8)

Pat_Mustard - 1. R. Gullit (11) 2. A. Brehme (16) 3. DROPPED 4. P. McGrath (2) 5. Paco Gento (23)

Skizzo - 1. Kaka 2. R. Dasayev 3. G. Souness 4. DROPPED 5. M. Buchan

mazhar13 - 1. D. Law (4) 2. U. Seeler (11) 3. P. Nedvěd (16) 4. DROPPED 5. J. Santamaria (19)

2mufc0 - 1. DROPPED 2. E. Davids 3. P.R. Falcao 4. Z. Ibrahimović 5. P. Shilton

prath92 - 1. M. Ballack (4) 2. T. Henry (10) 3. DROPPED (16) 4. C. Tevez (18) 5. R. Donadoni

Chesterlestreet - 1. J. Masopust (6) 2. R. Baraja (13) 3. E. Cantona (18) 4. J. Greaves (1)

Oaencha - 1. A. Del Piero 2. R. Lewandowski 3. S. Gerrard 4. M. Hummels

Moby - 1. D. Drogba (7) 2. DROPPED 3. A.Robben (17) 4. N. Vidic (14)

RedTiger - 1. C. Seedorf 2. Batistuta 3. J. Stam 4. O Ruggeri

NM - 1. D. Edwards 2. P. Scholes 3. C. Puyol 4. John Charles

Enigma_87/Sjor - 1. A. Iniesta (10) 2. R. Ferdinand (18) 3. DROPPED (26) 4. G. Mendieta (8)

Ecstatic/MDFC - 1. M. Laudrup (5) 2. Xavi (10) 3. O. Varela (19) 4. V. Valdés (1)

Block list: Alfredo Di Stéfano, Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Cristiano Ronaldo, Daniel Passarella, Diego Maradona, Elias Figueroa, Eusébio, Ferenc Puskás, Franco Baresi, Franz Beckenbauer, Gaetano Scirea, Garrincha, George Best, Gerd Müller, Johan Cruyff, Lev Yashin, Lionel Messi, Lothar Matthäus, Luis Ronaldo, Marco van Basten, Matthias Sammer, Michel Platini, Paolo Maldini, Pelé, Rivaldo, Roberto Baggio, Romário, Zico, Zinedine Zidane

Dropped list: Frank Rijkaard, Samuel Eto'o, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Laurent Blanc, Philipp Lahm, Paul Breitner, Pietro Vierchowod, Giuseppe Bergomi, Kopke, Lizarazu

@Chesterlestreet
 
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Balu said:
Poor performances in the early 70's? Bit confused now, we won 4 league titles in the 6 seasons between 68/69 and 73/74 and finished 2nd twice, losing the league to a sensational Gladbach team. Only after the European Cup and World Cup win in '74 and after three league titles in a row (72-74), the team struggled to stay motivated for league games. With Breitner off to Madrid and Hoeneß struggling with his injury, two key players were also gone and the rest just couldn't be arsed anymore outside of big games. Add a few internal fights and Lattek getting fired during the season to it, and you have an ageing team with two all time greats that showed up in European Cup games to get the job done but didn't care about the weekly matches anymore. Don't think there's much more to the story than that.
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D'oh, got my timings mixed up, yeah mid seventies it was.
 
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Jean-Pierre Papin (default pool).

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P-Nut - 1. Ronaldinho (9) 2. D. De Gea (13) 3. Neymar (19) 4. DROPPED 5. A. Sanchez (26)

harms - 1. DROPPED (10) 2. G. Donnarumma (20) 3. L. Figo (1) 4. R. Marquez (7) 5. L. Riva (12)

Tuppet - 1. M. Desailly (2) 2. J. Neeskens (9) 3. DROPPED 4. D. Dzajic (19) 5. L. Suarez (14)

Onenil/ctp - 1. J. Bican (D) 2. DROPPED 3. G. Facchetti (25) 4. H. Stoichkov (4) 5. J. Bozsik (8)

Pat_Mustard - 1. R. Gullit (11) 2. A. Brehme (16) 3. DROPPED 4. P. McGrath (2) 5. Paco Gento (23)

Skizzo - 1. Kaka 2. R. Dasayev 3. G. Souness 4. DROPPED 5. M. Buchan

mazhar13 - 1. D. Law (4) 2. U. Seeler (11) 3. P. Nedvěd (16) 4. DROPPED 5. J. Santamaria (19)

2mufc0 - 1. DROPPED 2. E. Davids 3. P.R. Falcao 4. Z. Ibrahimović 5. P. Shilton

prath92 - 1. M. Ballack (4) 2. T. Henry (10) 3. DROPPED (16) 4. C. Tevez (18) 5. R. Donadoni

Chesterlestreet - 1. J. Masopust (6) 2. R. Baraja (13) 3. E. Cantona (18) 4. DROPPED (1) 5. J-P. Papin

Oaencha - 1. A. Del Piero 2. R. Lewandowski 3. S. Gerrard 4. M. Hummels

Moby - 1. D. Drogba (7) 2. DROPPED 3. A.Robben (17) 4. N. Vidic (14)

RedTiger - 1. C. Seedorf 2. Batistuta 3. J. Stam 4. O Ruggeri

NM - 1. D. Edwards 2. P. Scholes 3. C. Puyol 4. John Charles

Enigma_87/Sjor - 1. A. Iniesta (10) 2. R. Ferdinand (18) 3. DROPPED (26) 4. G. Mendieta (8)

Ecstatic/MDFC - 1. M. Laudrup (5) 2. Xavi (10) 3. O. Varela (19) 4. V. Valdés (1)

Block list: Alfredo Di Stéfano, Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Cristiano Ronaldo, Daniel Passarella, Diego Maradona, Elias Figueroa, Eusébio, Ferenc Puskás, Franco Baresi, Franz Beckenbauer, Gaetano Scirea, Garrincha, George Best, Gerd Müller, Johan Cruyff, Lev Yashin, Lionel Messi, Lothar Matthäus, Luis Ronaldo, Marco van Basten, Matthias Sammer, Michel Platini, Paolo Maldini, Pelé, Rivaldo, Roberto Baggio, Romário, Zico, Zinedine Zidane

Dropped list: Frank Rijkaard, Samuel Eto'o, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Laurent Blanc, Philipp Lahm, Paul Breitner, Pietro Vierchowod, Giuseppe Bergomi, Kopke, Lizarazu, Jimmy Greaves

@Oaencha
 
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I will post my pick in a bit but can I confirm whether there is a ban on WC winning players this round? If so, does it include every manager?
 
Oaencha said:
I will post my pick in a bit but can I confirm whether there is a ban on WC winning players this round? If so, does it include every manager?
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No WC winners can be picked this round by anyone, Edgar confirmed this

Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Card was played in 4th round. Applies to 5th simple as.

Replace a WC winning player using same criteria used to pick the player dropped. No WC winners can be picked this round.
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finally some titties in the thread, well done.
 
Feel free to send me your picks as I'm on nights tonight and will be up for the next 5/6 hours
 
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Nothing wrong with a nice pair of titties; Mrs Santas or Gazzas. I can replace the photo if it's too explicit.
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i was once punished/warned for something similar so thats not the worst idea you had :)
 
Oaencha said:
Many apologies, I wasn't aware. Picture replaced and consider myself warned.
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you got it wrong, i enjoyed it :D but dont want you get a warning from the mods for something meaningless as this.
 
yeah no need to apologies, it brought a smile to my face
 
It seems like an apt photo for the man himself and the box name. It's not worth a warning though.
 
Feck me I'm a moron. Just realised Boro didn't actually win the Championship that year but came second. Am I allowed to change it or do I lose my pick?
 
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P-Nut - 1. Ronaldinho (9) 2. D. De Gea (13) 3. Neymar (19) 4. DROPPED 5. A. Sanchez (26)

harms - 1. DROPPED (10) 2. G. Donnarumma (20) 3. L. Figo (1) 4. R. Marquez (7) 5. L. Riva (12)

Tuppet - 1. M. Desailly (2) 2. J. Neeskens (9) 3. DROPPED 4. D. Dzajic (19) 5. L. Suarez (14)

Onenil/ctp - 1. J. Bican (D) 2. DROPPED 3. G. Facchetti (25) 4. H. Stoichkov (4) 5. J. Bozsik (8)

Pat_Mustard - 1. R. Gullit (11) 2. A. Brehme (16) 3. DROPPED 4. P. McGrath (2) 5. Paco Gento (23)

Skizzo - 1. Kaka 2. R. Dasayev 3. G. Souness 4. DROPPED 5. M. Buchan

mazhar13 - 1. D. Law (4) 2. U. Seeler (11) 3. P. Nedvěd (16) 4. DROPPED 5. J. Santamaria (19)

2mufc0 - 1. DROPPED 2. E. Davids 3. P.R. Falcao 4. Z. Ibrahimović 5. P. Shilton

prath92 - 1. M. Ballack (4) 2. T. Henry (10) 3. DROPPED (16) 4. C. Tevez (18) 5. R. Donadoni

Chesterlestreet - 1. J. Masopust (6) 2. R. Baraja (13) 3. E. Cantona (18) 4. DROPPED (1) 5. J-P. Papin

Oaencha - 1. A. Del Piero 2. R. Lewandowski 3. S. Gerrard 4. DROPPED 5. P. Gascoinge

Moby - 1. D. Drogba (7) 2. DROPPED 3. A.Robben (17) 4. N. Vidic (14) 5. M. Sindelar (22)

RedTiger - 1. C. Seedorf 2. Batistuta 3. J. Stam 4. O Ruggeri

NM - 1. D. Edwards 2. P. Scholes 3. C. Puyol 4. John Charles

Enigma_87/Sjor - 1. A. Iniesta (10) 2. R. Ferdinand (18) 3. DROPPED (26) 4. G. Mendieta (8)

Ecstatic/MDFC - 1. M. Laudrup (5) 2. Xavi (10) 3. O. Varela (19) 4. V. Valdés (1)

Block list: Alfredo Di Stéfano, Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Cristiano Ronaldo, Daniel Passarella, Diego Maradona, Elias Figueroa, Eusébio, Ferenc Puskás, Franco Baresi, Franz Beckenbauer, Gaetano Scirea, Garrincha, George Best, Gerd Müller, Johan Cruyff, Lev Yashin, Lionel Messi, Lothar Matthäus, Luis Ronaldo, Marco van Basten, Matthias Sammer, Michel Platini, Paolo Maldini, Pelé, Rivaldo, Roberto Baggio, Romário, Zico, Zinedine Zidane

Dropped list: Frank Rijkaard, Samuel Eto'o, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Laurent Blanc, Philipp Lahm, Paul Breitner, Pietro Vierchowod, Giuseppe Bergomi, Kopke, Lizarazu, Jimmy Greaves

@RedTiger
 
@Oaencha I think it was wrong anyway you don't pick from box 16 but from the same box that your dropped player came from. Which I think was box 4 for Hummels.
 
Tuppet said:
@Oaencha I think it was wrong anyway you don't pick from box 16 but from the same box that your dropped player came from. Which I think was box 4 for Hummels.
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I need to have a read through all the pages because I've missed some important information. Am I allowed to pick again?
 
Oaencha said:
I need to have a read through all the pages because I've missed some important information. Am I allowed to pick again?
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You need to pick someone from the same box you picked Hummels from. They can't have won the world cup though.
 
Dropped Mats Hummels who won the WC in 2014

Box 4 - Returnee

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Sol Campbell - Arsenal 01-06 & 10


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P-Nut - 1. Ronaldinho (9) 2. D. De Gea (13) 3. Neymar (19) 4. DROPPED 5. A. Sanchez (26)

harms - 1. DROPPED (10) 2. G. Donnarumma (20) 3. L. Figo (1) 4. R. Marquez (7) 5. L. Riva (12)

Tuppet - 1. M. Desailly (2) 2. J. Neeskens (9) 3. DROPPED 4. D. Dzajic (19) 5. L. Suarez (14)

Onenil/ctp - 1. J. Bican (D) 2. DROPPED 3. G. Facchetti (25) 4. H. Stoichkov (4) 5. J. Bozsik (8)

Pat_Mustard - 1. R. Gullit (11) 2. A. Brehme (16) 3. DROPPED 4. P. McGrath (2) 5. Paco Gento (23)

Skizzo - 1. Kaka 2. R. Dasayev 3. G. Souness 4. DROPPED 5. M. Buchan

mazhar13 - 1. D. Law (4) 2. U. Seeler (11) 3. P. Nedvěd (16) 4. DROPPED 5. J. Santamaria (19)

2mufc0 - 1. DROPPED 2. E. Davids 3. P.R. Falcao 4. Z. Ibrahimović 5. P. Shilton

prath92 - 1. M. Ballack (4) 2. T. Henry (10) 3. DROPPED (16) 4. C. Tevez (18) 5. R. Donadoni

Chesterlestreet - 1. J. Masopust (6) 2. R. Baraja (13) 3. E. Cantona (18) 4. DROPPED (1) 5. J-P. Papin

Oaencha - 1. A. Del Piero 2. R. Lewandowski 3. S. Gerrard 4. DROPPED 5. S. Campbell

Moby - 1. D. Drogba (7) 2. DROPPED 3. A.Robben (17) 4. N. Vidic (14) 5. M. Sindelar (22)

RedTiger - 1. C. Seedorf 2. Batistuta 3. J. Stam 4. O Ruggeri

NM - 1. D. Edwards 2. P. Scholes 3. C. Puyol 4. John Charles

Enigma_87/Sjor - 1. A. Iniesta (10) 2. R. Ferdinand (18) 3. DROPPED (26) 4. G. Mendieta (8)

Ecstatic/MDFC - 1. M. Laudrup (5) 2. Xavi (10) 3. O. Varela (19) 4. V. Valdés (1)

Block list: Alfredo Di Stéfano, Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Cristiano Ronaldo, Daniel Passarella, Diego Maradona, Elias Figueroa, Eusébio, Ferenc Puskás, Franco Baresi, Franz Beckenbauer, Gaetano Scirea, Garrincha, George Best, Gerd Müller, Johan Cruyff, Lev Yashin, Lionel Messi, Lothar Matthäus, Luis Ronaldo, Marco van Basten, Matthias Sammer, Michel Platini, Paolo Maldini, Pelé, Rivaldo, Roberto Baggio, Romário, Zico, Zinedine Zidane

Dropped list: Frank Rijkaard, Samuel Eto'o, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Laurent Blanc, Philipp Lahm, Paul Breitner, Pietro Vierchowod, Giuseppe Bergomi, Kopke, Lizarazu, Jimmy Greaves, Mats Hummels
 
Sorry for the mix-up everyone. Just so no one has any advantages, I was going to pick Gazza.

I'm going to sit down and re-read the rules.
 
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