I was surprised they left biggar on, i found his kicking decision making atrocious.
RBS 6 Nations
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I said this last year when Wales got humiliated by England and Ireland in the Six Nations, and then again when they got resolutely tonked by the Southern Hemisphere teams in the autumn internationals, so I'll say it again now that they're on the end of another hilariously crushing defeat: as long as Wales keep Gatland as their Head Coach, they'll keep getting absolutely smashed on the pitch. He's an awful tactician. He just sets his teams up to bludgeon through with raw power and nothing else, with the odd kick and chase thrown in, and against the other top nations they'll just match your physical game and then make you look stupid when they have the ball.
Wales have now lost, what, seven or eight in a row against the other top nations? That's Scotland and Italy form, not England and New Zealand.
Gatland is a sucker and it amuses me no end that they keep him on. They've got an insanely talented team and yet they're going backwards.
Wales have now lost, what, seven or eight in a row against the other top nations? That's Scotland and Italy form, not England and New Zealand.
Gatland is a sucker and it amuses me no end that they keep him on. They've got an insanely talented team and yet they're going backwards.
Wales didn't come out for the second half. JJ must be happy with that display after all the talk about panic before the match. Haskell is a machine! Not a bad start … you're right the GS is on!
Well done England.
Wales are terribly one dimensional though, aren't they?
Wales are terribly one dimensional though, aren't they?
pretty much spot on for me. wales would have won, probably fairly convincingly, with a more expansive game but that second half was atrocious. played right into england's hands.
How is Wales's team insanely talented? Their club sides and national team achieve little.
England's Six Nations to lose.
money is the issue with their club sides, most of their best play abroad, and their national team has won the grand slam a couple of times in the last few years.
still fancy ireland, especially if wales play like that against them.
Their national team has achieved little? They've won the Six Nations twice in the past three years and reached the semi-finals of the last World Cup. Their problem is they've been going backwards for the past two years, but they've evidently got serious talent in that team, a lot of it under 30. Claiming their national team has achieved little is utter nonsense, and suggests you know feck all about rugby.
And their clubs get nowhere because all their best players (bar Cuthbert) play outside of Wales, mostly in France. The Welsh club sides are dirt poor.
Nah, Ireland should be favourites now.
JI "Where will Scotland beat France tomorrow Clive?"
"In Paris"
"In Paris"
Look at who they played in the World Cup. They basically just beat Ireland and that was it.
Wales are very overrated. Their players that went to France have nearly all failed.
No brains in 9 or 10. As soon as Sexton and Murray directed them against the Australians for the lions they finally beat a Southern Hemisphere team. A weary SA this autumn aside.
Yessssssssss... ave some of that you sheepshaggers!!!!!
England were basically missing most of their best players. For such a young inexperienced England side like that to beat the Welsh in Cardiff in such a way has to go down as one as England's best ever performances. England actually should have scored 1 or 2 tries more. Certainly their best victory in the Millennium stadium so far I reckon. If England can get the likes of Tuilagi and Lawes back for the WC then they'll be very hard to beat..
England were basically missing most of their best players. For such a young inexperienced England side like that to beat the Welsh in Cardiff in such a way has to go down as one as England's best ever performances. England actually should have scored 1 or 2 tries more. Certainly their best victory in the Millennium stadium so far I reckon. If England can get the likes of Tuilagi and Lawes back for the WC then they'll be very hard to beat..
Hopefully, albeit probably by 'luck' of injuries, Lancaster has realised that is his best centre pairing
Yessssssssss... ave some of that you sheepshaggers!!!!!
England were basically missing most of their best players. For such a young inexperienced England side like that to beat the Welsh in Cardiff in such a way has to go down as one as England's best ever performances. England actually should have scored 1 or 2 tries more. Certainly their best victory in the Millennium stadium so far I reckon. If England can get the likes of Tuilagi and Lawes back for the WC then they'll be very hard to beat..
Big result with eyes towards the world cup as well. A loss here would have put a lot of pressure on the rest of their campaign, from there things could go badly wrong. England and Wales are in the same WC group too, aren't they? If England are fully fit and Wales remain that one dimensional....
And England didn't beat anyone at all of note, so I'm not sure what point you're making here. I like how you ignore their two recent Six Nations wins, though.
I agree about the lack of brains, but that's a result of Gatland's caveman tactics more than anything. It's kick and run, power through, don't bother playing with the ball just overpower them... and then when that doesn't work just capitulate like a team of schoolboys.
Wales are crap at the moment, I agree, but I think you're doing a huge disservice to some of the talent in their ranks. Just because they're not playing well now doesn't make them bad or overrated.
Frankly, your lack of understanding coupled with your claim that their national team hasn't achieved anything of note (despite winning two of the last three of these tournaments, which anyone who actually followed rugby would remember) makes me think you know very little about rugby and are probably just the typical braindead fan that tunes in for the Six Nations and makes snap declarations based on the five games a year you bother to watch.
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Yessssssssss... ave some of that you sheepshaggers!!!!!
England were basically missing most of their best players. For such a young inexperienced England side like that to beat the Welsh in Cardiff in such a way has to go down as one as England's best ever performances. England actually should have scored 1 or 2 tries more. Certainly their best victory in the Millennium stadium so far I reckon. If England can get the likes of Tuilagi and Lawes back for the WC then they'll be very hard to beat..
Not sure smashing a crap Wales team counts for much. Wait until after the match against Ireland in Dublin before you start waggling your cock around and talking about the WC. If England can get a good result there then I'll start to consider them in with a shout of winning it. Even then, I don't see them beating someone like New Zealand. Not because England aren't good (they're are; very, very good in fact) but because it doesn't matter how good a nation thinks it is - New Zealand are just better.
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These 2 teams are both coming of shit autumn internationals and maybe it was the fact that there was so many injuries to the England squad that helped them in the end as there was probably a win win mentality tonight they couldn't in effect lose tonight as the were bleeding young players in a competitive match if they lost and when they won these youngsters have tasted victory and the moral of the team has risen after the autumn, whereas Wales had it all to lose after all they were playing an "understrength" England side. which is bullshit in my books most of the players who have come in were battle hardened from playing in the premiership.
Next week will tell us how far this England side can go a rejuvenated Scotland against a "B" England should give the Scots something to fight for.
Im worried about Ireland after the way the provinces have preformed in Europe this season bar Leinster, how will it affect their mentality, how much of this championship will the big man actually play and hold back for the world cup how much is actually left in him, How will Sexton come back from not playing for 12 weeks is it, still its a strong squad with recent returnees from injury in Earls should help off the bench.
The one thing that confuses me and pisses me of is why is JJ going to Northampton he is not getting the outhalf job there either.
Next week will tell us how far this England side can go a rejuvenated Scotland against a "B" England should give the Scots something to fight for.
Im worried about Ireland after the way the provinces have preformed in Europe this season bar Leinster, how will it affect their mentality, how much of this championship will the big man actually play and hold back for the world cup how much is actually left in him, How will Sexton come back from not playing for 12 weeks is it, still its a strong squad with recent returnees from injury in Earls should help off the bench.
The one thing that confuses me and pisses me of is why is JJ going to Northampton he is not getting the outhalf job there either.
You mean this generation or Wales in general ?
Because you are wrong on both Wales is historically best the team in the north hemisphere and this generation destroyed almost all the Europeans teams at least ones. At the moment the problem is only with Hibbard who throw pizzas in every lineout and Biggard-Webb who can't control a game or force a decision.
Because they can't ignore the Pro 12 and know they will be in europe year on eayr
I think we'll struggle to be honest.
I think the Irish can take this easy enough.
why??
France outsiders, not even considered ? That's when we do our best work.
France and England at home, important players coming back and the best coach in the competition...
Grand Slam might be beyond us but I don't see any reason we wouldn't be favourites to win the competition itself at least....
I can't really see us winning the Championship unless it's a slam though. England have got arguably the 3 poorest sides at home (they don't have the mental block with the French that we've had for such a long time) while the game in Dublin is bound to be close. I just don't see us battering Italy and Scotland away by enough points to match that. The main thing for us is having most if not all the key players fit by the time England come. We lack the depth they've got but I'd strongly argue that our best 15 is better than theirs apart from at the scrum.
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I just hope the French do something amazing. Either win it with incredible style and flair, or collapse into in-fighting and dramatic squabbles.
Actually, I just realised I described the French in every Six Nations ever.
Actually, I just realised I described the French in every Six Nations ever.
A slow start for Ireland.
Ffs, fecked it up just in front of the line twice in a row now.
Nice try for Ireland.
Way too easy, such a soft attempt of a tackle.
I'm almost sure that the french commentator said "Ebola's try".
Good win in the end.
Yup, Ireland are solid in the fundamentals, solid scrum, solid lineout, solid in the rucks and very good kicking game. They probably lack the X factor that O'driscoll or Murphy had but other than that, that's a solid team.
Shame O'Brien couldn't play today, makes it difficult to use him against France.
Now to see what sort of shape your guys are in....
France stealing Wales' shirts?
We are not good and we won't be good
France have the stupidest rugby players in the world, they absolutely don't know how to play as a team.
We are so bad, that's almost funny.