Tottenham have still signed some very good players without CL football.
RAWK Goes into Meltdown 2014/2015 - The "We go again" Edition
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Actually, we are hiding our sheep at undisclosed locations. On one hand, they'll sleep better knowing Suarez is gone but with Stevie coming we're not leaving anything to chance.
they go again...and again...and again.
I didn't make it past the title.
Twenty seasons without the league title, several seasons out of the Champions League = "Liverpool are still a big club"
One poor season 12 months after winning the league title, and still making the 1/4s of the CL = "United are gone"
#RAWKlogic
One poor season 12 months after winning the league title, and still making the 1/4s of the CL = "United are gone"
#RAWKlogic
I'm waiting for us to sign Vidal or di Maria before I gloat about their poor work in the transfer market.
There's only been one season in the last eight we have not challenged for the title. We won 5, finished second by one point and on goal difference and then obviously Moyes. Liverpool have had 2 'challenges' in the same time.
What?!
Get your Americanisms outta here!
Yes, I'm aware that "outta" is also an Americanism.
The previous four seasons to their glorious second place being 7th, 8th, 6th and 7th as well.
I took a year of English, so that I can make more money teaching other stuff.
Wierdo
The pay is good and I've had three weeks of holiday, and I won't go back to work for at least a month. So... yeah.
My god that is awful!Holy shit!
A couple more choice parts from that post...
I love both these comments, talk about encapsulating the bitterness and delusion, RAWK just always gives you more
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Re: Suarez to leave - official
« Reply #1057 on: Yesterday at 04:45:09 AM »
Quote from: Wernerred on Yesterday at 12:57:05 AM
The fact I´m not sad at all to see this genius go tells me how far this team and the club have gone.
We´ll cope without Suarez.I think more of us were upset when Moyes left United!
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Re: Suarez to leave - official
« Reply #1057 on: Yesterday at 04:45:09 AM »
Quote from: Wernerred on Yesterday at 12:57:05 AM
The fact I´m not sad at all to see this genius go tells me how far this team and the club have gone.
We´ll cope without Suarez.I think more of us were upset when Moyes left United!
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Re: General Shite Chat Thread #5: Now with Potential signings. * No Suarez.
« Reply #3284 on: Today at 12:01:30 AM »
Quote from: Istanbulievable on Yesterday at 11:30:36 PM
If Reus were to leave, which there is no indication that he will be this summer, I'd imagine most of europe's top clubs will be after him. As much as I hate to admit it, we wouldn't stand a chance.
I'm honestly baffled by this kind of sentiment. There are, at most, 7 clubs that would be easily ahead of us in any theoretical player's mind when considering where to move:
Massive Clubs With a Perception/Attraction Advantage over LFC
Barcelona
Real Madrid
Bayern Munich
Clubs With Big Financial Advantage over LFC
PSG
Man City
Chelsea
Monaco
Then, there is a much bigger list of teams that might be perceived as similar to us in size and/or financial capacity for wages, etc. Manchester United, Arsenal, Juventus, AC Milan, Inter, Dortmund, Atletico Madrid, arguably a few more. Aside from these clubs, I would think any neutral player would prefer to come to LFC over other options. If it's head to head between us, Valencia and Benfica, I would think that everything else being equal (and that's an important qualifier because very, very rarely is everything else equal - a player's wife might not like the move, we might have too many players in his position, etc), a neutral player would probably prefer to come to us.
So yes, we would lose a theoretical battle over Reus to Bayern, or Barca, or even PSG/City if any of those clubs came in for him, most likely. But there aren't as many clubs that we can't compete with as people would like to believe. I think our fans use it as an excuse sometimes, but we offer a lot: top league, top wages, massive history, incredible fanbase, one of the best and most attacking young managers in football and it's not like Liverpool is the worst city in Europe to live in, either. We may lose a battle over a player now and then to Arsenal or Dortmund, but it's hardly a foregone conclusion and in the end, it will mostly come down to the amount we offer as a fee and wages.
With the Suarez money, our finances can bear the strain of going after a top player or two. Transfers are certainly more complicated than just making the biggest offer and seeing the player in red, but we shouldn't be crying "Woe is me, we can't get anything better than a 20-year old with a lot of potential." We can get players in their pomp if we want to, and we will if we go after them. For me the reason we haven't seen a Reus or Draxler linked thus far by any reliable journos is down to our scouting staff not finding value with any of them more than it is that we don't think we could bring them in.
« Last Edit: Today at 12:03:15 AM by Kochevnik »
Clearly never looked at the financial strength, gate receipts, relative recent success of utd vs Liverpool, nor for that matter our respective transfers... What planet is this guy on
They would argue that there are more letters in their name than ours.
*Insert joke about shop lifting and Liverpool here*
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Re: General Shite Chat Thread #5: Now with Potential signings. * No Suarez.
« Reply #3284 on: Today at 12:01:30 AM »
Quote from: Istanbulievable on Yesterday at 11:30:36 PM
If Reus were to leave, which there is no indication that he will be this summer, I'd imagine most of europe's top clubs will be after him. As much as I hate to admit it, we wouldn't stand a chance.
I'm honestly baffled by this kind of sentiment. There are, at most, 7 clubs that would be easily ahead of us in any theoretical player's mind when considering where to move:
Massive Clubs With a Perception/Attraction Advantage over LFC
Barcelona
Real Madrid
Bayern Munich
Clubs With Big Financial Advantage over LFC
PSG
Man City
Chelsea
Monaco
Then, there is a much bigger list of teams that might be perceived as similar to us in size and/or financial capacity for wages, etc. Manchester United, Arsenal, Juventus, AC Milan, Inter, Dortmund, Atletico Madrid, arguably a few more. Aside from these clubs, I would think any neutral player would prefer to come to LFC over other options. If it's head to head between us, Valencia and Benfica, I would think that everything else being equal (and that's an important qualifier because very, very rarely is everything else equal - a player's wife might not like the move, we might have too many players in his position, etc), a neutral player would probably prefer to come to us.
So yes, we would lose a theoretical battle over Reus to Bayern, or Barca, or even PSG/City if any of those clubs came in for him, most likely. But there aren't as many clubs that we can't compete with as people would like to believe. I think our fans use it as an excuse sometimes, but we offer a lot: top league, top wages, massive history, incredible fanbase, one of the best and most attacking young managers in football and it's not like Liverpool is the worst city in Europe to live in, either. We may lose a battle over a player now and then to Arsenal or Dortmund, but it's hardly a foregone conclusion and in the end, it will mostly come down to the amount we offer as a fee and wages.
With the Suarez money, our finances can bear the strain of going after a top player or two. Transfers are certainly more complicated than just making the biggest offer and seeing the player in red, but we shouldn't be crying "Woe is me, we can't get anything better than a 20-year old with a lot of potential." We can get players in their pomp if we want to, and we will if we go after them. For me the reason we haven't seen a Reus or Draxler linked thus far by any reliable journos is down to our scouting staff not finding value with any of them more than it is that we don't think we could bring them in.
« Last Edit: Today at 12:03:15 AM by Kochevnik »
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Clearly never looked at the financial strength, gate receipts, relative recent success of utd vs Liverpool, nor for that matter our respective transfers... What planet is this guy on
He's probably one of the many Norwegian Liverpool fans that haven't been to Anfield. Liverpool as a city is a bit of a shithole. Especially around the Anfield area - boarded up windows as far as the eye can see!
Whats with the noggie hate?
No Noggie hate from me mate - my cousin lives there as a matter of fact, gorgeous country. It's just a fact that a lot of RAWKites are Norwegian and haven't set foot in Liverpool before
Wouldn't surprise me at all. Most Liverpool supporting noggies that i've met are rawk-quality.No Noggie hate from me mate - my cousin lives there as a matter of fact, gorgeous country. It's just a fact that a lot of RAWKites are Norwegian and haven't set foot in Liverpool before
Cretins.
They just keep on giving. Year in, year out.
The only person who fears Steven Gerrard is Simon Mignolet.
And that bloke who didn't like Phil Collins
Do they forget that they've got Glen fecking Johnson, Skirtel, Toure etc at the back? They leaked goals for fun last season.
I don't rate our defence, I must admit - apart from Shaw and Rafael who I think are excellent but I feel we need 2 CBs. But feck me, they never look at their own side when taking the piss out of ours
Not the first time I've read through them mocking our defence. Who wants to break the news to them that despite them having their best season in decades, and us having our worst, they conceded 50 goals last season, significantly more than we did?
Also Rafael, Smalling, Jones and Evans have multiple PL medals.
I'm loving it.
Such drivel.Yet they were all laughing their heads off when City won the title on goal difference in injury time after investing over £1bn in oil money, yet we receive a generous sponsorship and suddenly it's ridiculous. Their delusion really does cloud any modicum of reasonableness or logic they might otherwise have had.
It's called global appeal, simple.
It's definitely a lot more admirable than getting your money from Oil barons or worse Russian criminals.