RAWK Goes into Meltdown 2014/2015 - The "We go again" Edition

Ronaldo in 2008 was the best player on the planet.

I remember the Liverpool fans saying Babel was going to be better than Nani and he's not even managed that, so... yeah.
 
You have to have some serious stones to predict Sturridge to be top scorer with some genuine conviction. Is it just by default because he was second top scorer behind Suarez? I could live with that, but I think it is more blind hope than anything.

Not really, considering he managed 2nd top behind the guy who has now left the league. Not to mention that guy marginalized him whereas now he'll be the main man up top.

I don't think he will but its not that outrageous a suggestion, he's been in excellent goal scoring form for a while now.
 
You have to have some serious stones to predict Sturridge to be top scorer with some genuine conviction. Is it just by default because he was second top scorer behind Suarez? I could live with that, but I think it is more blind hope than anything.
The on-going narrative that Sturridge is some imposter passing off as a top striker.

If this was any other striker in another top European league and he had the stats of Sturridge since Jan 2013 he'd be held in really high regard. However, he isn't and the blinkered bias on here has him as some foil for Suarez who was feeding off his scraps and somehow scored a load of goals - and the word average still lingers.

'Flash in the pan', 'lucky streak', 'as good as Welbeck' are just some of the reactions to Sturridge's performances since signing for Liverpool. 'Yeah but he's only done it for 18 months...' This is the best qualification as it is total nonsense in how players are judged in the real world. Players do well for three games and I've seen some on RedCaf go mad over a player, but Sturridge needs to do it for a really long period of time before a reasonable conclusion can be reached.

All a bit odd...
 
I can see your on-going narrative is going off the deep end before actually comprehending the entirety of a post. In fact, I question why you'd even bother with this thread in general.
Sorry, engaging in a debate on a forum. My bad...
 
Debatable.

Its debatable that the league's best player and arguably the 3rd best player in the world would marginalize his strike partner? Sure his presence had benefits but obviously there were drawbacks to being next to a guy getting that amount of goals.

He's a top striker who will be right up there next season I reckon.
 
Its debatable that the league's best player and arguably the 3rd best player in the world would marginalize his strike partner? Sure his presence had benefits but obviously there were drawbacks to being next to a guy getting that amount of goals.
You seriously think playing next to Suarez was a hindrance more than a benefit for Sturridge?
He's a top striker who will be right up there next season I reckon.
No doubt about that, but I can't agree with the other part.
 
A member of the RAWK universe said:
They will be up with City and Chelsea after one or two seasons. We laughed at city for spending silly money,now its almost certain that City will finish in top 4. Its so unfair to clubs like us,spurs,everton and Arsenal(even though they started to buy world class players now) who doesn't have funds to compete with these three.
 
You have to have some serious stones to predict Sturridge to be top scorer with some genuine conviction. Is it just by default because he was second top scorer behind Suarez? I could live with that, but I think it is more blind hope than anything.

No, not really. Liverpool scored 101 goals last season. If you take away Suarez's goals they still score more goals than us.

Sturridge himself has been on a pretty consistent goal scoring form. Now that he's the main man up front, and presuming that they are continuing with the swashbuckling style under Breton then it is not that far fetched to consider Sturridge as a potential top scorer.
 
No there wasn't.

There was a let's all laugh at Gerrard being toasted by an 18-year-old at Anfield thread though.
That's a nice hindsight way to look at it. Anderson HAD arrived. The hype was significant.

I also remember going toe-to-toe on here in a heated Fletcher v Mascherano debate about who was the better DM. My adversary concluded that Mascherano was only regarded as better because he had an fancy foreign name.

My point is that you can locate fanboys all over the place laying claim to the next best thing only for them to fizzle out. It's part if being a fan, I guess. I'm sure I've got it spectacularly wrong a fair few times.
 
Shall I dig up the Lucas or Anderson thread?

Yes because comparing Lucas to Anderson is same as comparing Babel to Ronaldo. Well fecking done.

Even by your remarkably low standards, this post shines out.
 
No, not really. Liverpool scored 101 goals last season. If you take away Suarez's goals they still score more goals than us.

Sturridge himself has been on a pretty consistent goal scoring form. Now that he's the main man up front, and presuming that they are continuing with the swashbuckling style under Breton then it is not that far fetched to consider Sturridge as a potential top scorer.
I think you guys are failing read the 'with conviction' in my post. It's one thing to tell your mates you think Sturridge will win the golden boot but it's another to go out and dump your life savings on it at the bookies because it is a shoe in (get it, shoe in). One has an air of optimistic hope, the other would take some serious stones. Which is why I said 'with conviction'. Because it would.
 
I think you guys are failing read the 'with conviction' in my post. It's one thing to tell your mates you think Sturridge will win the golden boot but it's another to go out and dump your life savings on it at the bookies because it is a shoe in (get it, shoe in). One has an air of optimistic hope, the other would take some serious stones. Which is why I said 'with conviction'. Because it would.

You never said anything about "Life savings", pretty obviously that would be a stupid idea. I wouldn't say a small amount of money on it would be a bad idea though.

It would take balls to put massive money on any player finishing top scorer.
 
You seriously think playing next to Suarez was a hindrance more than a benefit for Sturridge?
No doubt about that, but I can't agree with the other part.

All I know is Sturridge has a very good scoring record without Suarez in the side. Check it out.

Do I think playing next to the best striker in the league could possibly lead to less goals for Sturridge? Well yeah, honestly. I can see it having a massive impact. I don't know about hindrance, I just don't think he'll fall apart or be nowhere near last season due to Suarez leaving. There were positives & drawbacks to playing alongside him.

He'll be the main striker with the creativity/pace of Sterling, Markovic, Coutinho & co. around him. Not to mention Gerrard usually grabs a lot of assists.
 
Fitting quote...
RAWK said:
Without wanting to sound too negative, but if Cavani is supposedly keen on leaving because he is not playing in his favoured role as the main front man, what is he going to expect at Liverpool with Daniel Sturridge...
 
Comprehension is not your strong point, I see.

Wonderful. So you went from it being "with conviction" (so quite positive about his chances, which is what most of them are) to some crap about "Life savings" and apparently I'm struggling with comprehension.

It's also clearly not "blind hope" or whatever, considering he is the highest scoring player of last season left in the league.
 
reading their thread about suarez leaving, and saw this belter

Quote from: Heno on July 22, 2014, 12:51:24 PM
Thanks for everything but I cannot shake the feeling of betrayal, a part of me believes he planned it for his 'dream move' to Spain...this time Barcelona...
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Knockout stage of the CL against Barca please so he can experience Anfield on one of those nights and I for one will make myself heard in the Nou Camp.

Big mistake Luis, the way we are going you have taken a step down.

Barcelona a step down from Liverpool... :lol:
 
Yes because comparing Lucas to Anderson is same as comparing Babel to Ronaldo. Well fecking done.

Even by your remarkably low standards, this post shines out.
Glad someone else noticed that post haha one of the worst comparisons I've seen haha
 
I don't think they need to worry about the CL knockout stages just yet.
 
That's a nice hindsight way to look at it. Anderson HAD arrived. The hype was significant.

I also remember going toe-to-toe on here in a heated Fletcher v Mascherano debate about who was the better DM. My adversary concluded that Mascherano was only regarded as better because he had an fancy foreign name.

My point is that you can locate fanboys all over the place laying claim to the next best thing only for them to fizzle out. It's part if being a fan, I guess. I'm sure I've got it spectacularly wrong a fair few times.
You could argue that in his prime Fletcher was more useful, but its clear that now Mascherano is better. But Fletcher had a severe illness.
 
You could argue that in his prime Fletcher was more useful, but its clear that now Mascherano is better. But Fletcher had a severe illness.
You could argue that but I think the majority of the footballing world would disagree.