This is why everyone hates your club and supporters. No respect or patience is a good thing? Typical
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This is why everyone hates your club and supporters. No respect or patience is a good thing? Typical
That isn't why people hate Man Utd, the views he put across don't even wholly represent our fans anyway,
Within reason, not putting up with substandard performances for very long is the only way to success.
Liverpool fans will put up with shit on a stick performances as long as the manager sucks their collective dicks about how amazing they are.
Rodgers is a bluffer. But he's smart enough to play the fans like a violin by spewing all the platitudes that Liverpool fans crave. United fans would never put up with such guff. The manager and the team need to deliver.
Ferguson has built a culture of performing at the highest levels at all times which senior players have bought into and enforce on the new recruits. The players are harder on each other than the fans could ever be. If Moyes maintains that culture then he will have success.
But Liverpool? Nothing has changed since the white suits and spice boy culture of the 90s. Second best is good enough.
Nothing he doesnt deserve.
Not so sure. He's been pretty good in the transfer market so far IMO.
And Liverpool are playing the kind of football that you're able to watch. In the last two seasons they were unbelievably un-attractive.
I think that if they give time Rodgers he can do a job here. With good transfers they can probably go to Champions zone in the next season. Hopefully not though. But I can see them being there within three years.
The competition for the CL is bloody hard now though, and am I wrong in saying we might lose the fourth place as well? If so, it would take a serious lapse from the top clubs to let them in in the short-term, given how far behind their squad is. That's conceivable for us I suppose, since Fergie and Scholes are going and we might lose Wayne and Nani. But for the sugar-daddy clubs it's hard to envisage, I think they'll both strengthen massively this summer.
What's all this about losing the fourth place?? Google.....goooglee????
Even with Harry Redknap managing us, I don't think we would drop out of 4th place next season (as long as we keep the squad intact, or no major change).
I mean England could lose its fourth CL place, cos of the coefficient.
No chance. It's conceivable that Germany might go up a place, but that changes nothing when it comes to the number of champions league places. It would be a pretty insignificant re-shuffle.
Some people have been lamenting how unexciting it all is.
Oh, righto. There were some articles in the papers a few months ago panicking about it, for some reason.
To be fair, I don't think that there is a big difference between Liverpool and Spurs/Arsenal. If Spurs lose Bale they are off. Rodgers signings seems to be good, Sturrridge seems to be a good signing while Coutinho is extremely talented. I think that in the next 2 years if they manage to sign 2 central defenders (one good, one back up), a left defender and a midfielder they can fight for the fourth spot without a problem.
I can't see us not qualifying for Champions, I am pretty sure that we'll finish in top 2, or at very worst in the third place. I said before that I think that chances are much higher for us to become Champions then to not qualify for UCL next few years.
England cannot lose the fourth spot, we're much better than Italy. Though Germany will surpass England in the beginning of new season.
Well I suppose some trepidation is not unreasonable, in a sense that it's worrying sign of England going in the wrong direction and all that. Maybe that's what they were on about.
But there's just no danger of losing places in the foreseeable future.
I mean even in a season where English clubs have largely underperformed(which I don't think will become a trend), Italy still got fewer points this year.
But there's just no danger of losing places in the foreseeable future.
I mean even in a season where English clubs have largely underperformed(which I don't think will become a trend), Italy still got fewer points this year.
As it is:
(08-09) (09-10) (10-11) (11-12) (12-13) Total
Spain 13.312 17.928 18.214 20.857 17.714 88.025
England 15.000 17.928 18.357 15.250 16.428 82.963
Germany 12.687 18.083 15.666 15.250 17.642 79.328
Italy 11.375 15.428 11.571 11.357 14.417 64.147
Portugal 6.785 10.000 18.800 11.833 11.750 59.168
France 11.000 15.000 10.750 10.500 11.750 59.000
Germany will get the second position in the beginning of next season when there will be deleted the 2008-2009 points but the difference between England and Italy would be around 13 points which is too much. I can't see the table changing that much in the next 5 years.
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(08-09) (09-10) (10-11) (11-12) (12-13) Total
Spain 13.312 17.928 18.214 20.857 17.714 88.025
England 15.000 17.928 18.357 15.250 16.428 82.963
Germany 12.687 18.083 15.666 15.250 17.642 79.328
Italy 11.375 15.428 11.571 11.357 14.417 64.147
Portugal 6.785 10.000 18.800 11.833 11.750 59.168
France 11.000 15.000 10.750 10.500 11.750 59.000
Germany will get the second position in the beginning of next season when there will be deleted the 2008-2009 points but the difference between England and Italy would be around 13 points which is too much. I can't see the table changing that much in the next 5 years.
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Yes, Manchester United is renowned for its lack of patience. Definitely.
Do you live in a bubble where Liverpool fans are well respected and admired?
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Do you seriously not believe that most supporters are exactly the same, regardless of who their team is?
Same as everything else, there's good/bad, patient/impatient, respect/lack of respect.
Generalisation might be good for a laugh, and we all do it, but realistically, we're all the same.
I remember hearing a Liverpool fan phoning one of the radio shows ranting because a team like Liverpool shouldn't be losing to a team like Coventry.
I have to say Cafties, he's hit the fecking nail on the head as harsh as it all may sound. It's not nice reading for Liverpool fans, but it's ultimately true
Yeah, this was what I was thinking unless he is referring to something else. A very bizarre statement indeed.
He spelt patients wrongly.
Mental article on this page: http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=305661.5640
The amount of effort and wasted time it would have taken to come up with all that 'evidence' is what I find hilarious. It just gets harder and harder every year for idiots like that to come up with reasons as to why Liverpool are so shit and United so consistently good. Yet the simple answer is in that sentence. Liverpool are shit, United are good. No amount of refeering analysis will ever change that.
There are plenty of sensible Liverpool fans but the deluded ones get worse every year
It was written by a West Ham fan.
I don't think Germany will get the 2nd position. The point difference between winning the EL and winning the CL isn't huge. England had 3 teams in the quarter finals in the EL, Germany had none.
There was a bigger gap between the two countries back in '09 than there is now.
Not that it matters much anyways. 1st-3rd placed countries get the same qualifying treatment and Italy is very far behind. Like you said, it won't change much in the next 5 years.
His only two articles:- Sir Alex Ferguson Retires: Is This The End Of The Manchester United Referee Conspiracy?
- The Worrying Relationship Between Manchester United & Referees
That article in RAWK was posted on my challenge if they can support they theories that SAF destroyed a lot of referees careers. Pretty pathetic but all those RAWK posters there believe that.
At the writer,
At the writer,
"This season Man Utd were the only team not to have a player sent off or a penalt given against them. That's just this season - there's plenty more proof out there... "
Despite us actually having a player sent off this season, apparently that, plus no penalties against us is proof
Despite us actually having a player sent off this season, apparently that, plus no penalties against us is proof
The Fergie retiring thread is a good laugh
He was still managing Everton today, shock horror that people are thanking Fergie.
Ah, that infamous Coates decision at Fulham - nobody will ever forget that.
Devastated.RAWK said:
RAWK said:
He was still managing Everton today, shock horror that people are thanking Fergie.
lolRAWK said:
RAWK said:
Ah, that infamous Coates decision at Fulham - nobody will ever forget that.
I love how he's almost hesitant at suggesting some objectivity. You don't want to suggest that on RAWK, the place will explode.RAWK said:
Someone asked him to give some examples - he promptly made up an excuse.RAWK said:
I almost got banned for that
Anyway, does any United supporter cares that the last game SAF lose was against Chelsea's Benitez in a completely pointless match for us, 2 weeks after we won the title.
Despite us actually having a player sent off this season, apparently that, plus no penalties against us is proof
Shut up Solius, Rafael was injured and he left the game, it wasn't a red card.
thank goodness they didn't toast a weak QPR team today.
We'd have to endure all season of "our season next year" nonsense.
A scouse fan at work said on their day they can thrash anyone.
Beat maybe, but not thrash!
We'd have to endure all season of "our season next year" nonsense.
A scouse fan at work said on their day they can thrash anyone.
Beat maybe, but not thrash!
That final "if you get me" makes me think the whole post is one big innuendo. Demoted to the lower leagues? Analyse refs? Full pictures?
The referee was clearly just showing Rafael that he indeed had his red card handy, should it be needed.
:d
Oh, but you don't understand. Rafael was sent off to cover up the fact that our players never get sent off. That is how RAWK logic works.
But anyway, are we back to the boom part of the cycle until September?
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