RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2011/2012)

Minkaro said:
How the author sees himself whilst writing that letter:

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How he actually appears:

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Someone with sense:

The first point of his rebuttal repeats an error that's popping up all over the place though.

The FA told Jim that it was agreed by all parties INCLUDING Suarez that concha de tu hermana was on this occasion an exclamation like feck me. If it's agreed by the parties it doesn't matter that there could have been other meanings. The Panel is entitled to accept the meaning the parties have agreed.

So for us to get all exercised now about how Evra was allowed to get away with such a foul "insult" is a complete waste of time, because it was a point conceded by Suarez.

Similarly, Suarez and his team elected not to pursue questions of credibility of Evra or his "previous". Then in the club's statement of 20 December we complained that the accusation was not credible, no more so than his previous unfounded allegations. Too bloody late.

There are complaints being made about the late disclosure of evidence as evidence of conspiracy or procedural flaw. But Suarez's team had the chance to adjourn to consider the evidence and said they'd had enough time to consider it. Can't complain now.

We sit around digging up articles that we say show that the FA had prejudged the issue, or that a conviction was inevitable by fair
means or foul, and yet when the Chair of the panel admitted to already having read an article that Suarez's team specifically indicated should not have been read, Suarez's lawyer said he was more than sure the Chair wouldn't be influenced by it.

We moan that inconsistencies in Suarez's evidence were interpreted in the worst possible light, and inconsistencies in the evidence submitted on behalf of Evra weren't taken apart. But Suarez's lawyer agreed a lot of statements that were riddled with inconsistencies.

Alan X has come down extremely hard on posters who have suggested that Surez's defence wasn't the best and that at least contributed to the fact that the Panel was able to find for the FA quite easily. May be AlanX has inside knowledge that explains some of these concessions, and if so I'll happily reconsider. In my opinion ( as a lawyer of 15 years PQE, most of it spent advising on quasi-judicial proceedings which share many of the same legal principles as the FA's disciplinary proceedings) based on what has been said an done to date, I think There were many decisions made by Suarez and his legal team that helped the Panel find against him. I'm putting my experience in there as it was suggested by someone yesterday that we couldn't comment on the way the defence was conducted unless we had some insight. I think I do have some insight as a result of my experience. For what it's worth, my other half ( a villa fan with no particular axe to grind, and a litigator of 14 years experience) formed the same opinion independently. I have never seen a decision where there are so many pointed references to concessions and/or cock ups in the conduct of a defence. It was thoroughly embarrassing reading from a legal point of view.

The legal team even had to admit to bad drafting, FFS. That's excruciating.

The reason I'm posting this is that there are lot of opinions being Put out there about legal arguments that the panel should have
considered, inconsistencies they should have picked up, but this is the advocate's job. The panel has to make judgements based on the case argued in front of it for both sides, not Arguments that it thinks should have been run or arguments that could have been run but weren't.

The Panel may have been itching to find for the FA but we gave them plenty of ammunition to do that. People may say, but there was stuff that happened that isn't in the report like Kenny said. However, we haven't appealed or formally challenged, and so the report is now the record and frankly sniping about it in the media isn't going to affect the record one jot
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Liverpool fan arrested after Oldham player abused in new Anfield race row

By SPORTSMAIL REPORTER

6th January 2012

Liverpool are once again at the centre of a damaging race row after a fan was arrested for allegedly racially abusing Oldham's Tom Adeyemi during the FA Cup clash at Anfield.
Adeyemi was visibly rocked by the abuse directed at him from the Kop and had to be calmed down by referee Neil Swarbrick and Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard and some of his own players.

Eye witnesses overheard one Liverpool supporter shout: 'You f****** black b******' towards the end of the 5-1 victory for the hosts.
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So Klanfield now behaving in the fashion to what KKK Dalglish has unleashed. Or maybe its just cultural relevance ... thats just banter on merseyside .... didn't ya know?

I hope KKK realizes what he has done. He has given every genuine card carrying EDL/BNP member or closet racist the platform to use racist words and slurs and this will carry on all season now.

I hope the players abused can take it in their stride but I also hope Liverpool fans continue to play up to the stereotype. What a shambolic disgusting bunch of wankers.

Dalglish has so much to answer for .... what happens when a Liverpool fan is involved in a case of racila GBH or even worse at a violent after match rukkus which is now only a matter of time?

Liverpool are the new Millwall. feck me, what has happened up there?
 
sammsky1 said:
So Klanfield now behaving in the fashion to what KKK Dalglish has unleashed. Or maybe its just cultural relevance ... thats just banter on merseyside .... didn't ya know?

I hope KKK realizes what he has done. He has given every genuine card carrying EDL/BNP member or closet racist the platform to use racist words and slurs and this will carry on all season now.

I hope the players abused can take it in their stride but I also hope Liverpool fans continue to play up to the stereotype. What a shambolic disgusting bunch of wankers.

Dalglish has so much to answer for .... what happens when a Liverpool fan is involved in a case of racila GBH or even worse at a violent after match rukkus which is now only a matter of time?

Liverpool are the new Millwall. feck me, what has happened up there?
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What's wrong with that the supporter has said? I mean "black" isn't offensive in the UK. Even his friends call him that...hasn't Adeyemi done this before??
 
I saw in the paper today at work that Robbie Fowler is in trouble for posting a picture of him dressed up as a black person.

Surely. SURELY it's not true.
 
Tbh, he looks like a sunburned Scouser.
 
You reach a point where you think "Okay, this is it. This is the worst they can do. They cannot possibly dig themselves any deeper into a hole", then BOOM! Their fans racially abuse an Oldham player and Robbie Fowler posts a pic of himself blacked up. Someone should do a timeline. Okay, I'll do one.

October: Suarez allegedly says racially abusive things in heated exchange during Liverpool/United game. Says he is misunderstood. "No, Meester Evra, not in those trays. Uno dos tres!"

Oct-Dec: Kenny Dalglish maintains dignified silence. Also brings up the incident in every press conference. Every day. Says loser in great Liverpool-United War of 2011 should apologise. But not Suarez. Doesn't say the last three words out loud in his press conference.

Dec: Suarez found totally guilty. Team FA, feck YEAH!

Dec: Dalglish wanders out of off licence wearing "I <3 Luis Suarez, but not in a bummy way" and is photographed by Liverpool Ehhkkcho, who lead with "Kop King Kenny tries not to drop his bevvy".

Dec: Alan Hansen calls black people 'coloureds'. Twice.

Dec: Hansen apologises for using inappropriate language. Says he meant 'darkies'.

Dec: Glen Johnson says he will support Alan Hansen "if I want to!" Also adds that it's his party and he retains the option to cry.

Dec-Jan: Liverpool fans enter Guiness Book of World Records for managing to racially abuse everyone on the internet in the space of three weeks.

Jan: Mark Lawrensen reveals that Kenny Dalglish has a shrine to Rab C Nesbitt in his Southport home.

Jan: Kenny Dalglish knocks on Sir Alex Ferguson's door and asks his mum if he's coming out? Sir Alex hides behind the door and mimes to his mum that he is sick and to get rid of Kenny. Sir Alex's mum scolds him afterwards and says he should tell Kenny himself next time and that she wan't do his dirty work for him again.

Jan: Liverpool fans racially abuse Oldham player, Tom Adeyemi, during their FA Cup 3rd round tie. When questioned by the police, the fans arrested explained "We missed him out when we did that world rehhkkcord thing, la".

Jan: Robbie Fowler gets into trouble for dressing up as Cilla Black at a party. Where he definitely didn't snort any coke. And wasn't seen through a double mirror. Anyway, the mirror is just as bad as the sun, so feck them both.


Tomorrow: Kenny Dalglish reveals that Liverpool's number one target in the January transfer window is Nick Griffin.
 
Don't see anything wrong with Fowlers costume tbh, just incredible timing!
 
Fowler is just building bridges, he's starting right at the top - Lionel Ritchie.
 
Badunk said:
You reach a point where you think "Okay, this is it. This is the worst they can do. They cannot possibly dig themselves any deeper into a hole", then BOOM! Their fans racially abuse an Oldham player and Robbie Fowler posts a pic of himself blacked up. Someone should do a timeline. Okay, I'll do one.

October: Suarez allegedly says racially abusive things in heated exchange during Liverpool/United game. Says he is misunderstood. "No, Meester Evra, not in those trays. Uno dos tres!"

Oct-Dec: Kenny Dalglish maintains dignified silence. Also brings up the incident in every press conference. Every day. Says loser in great Liverpool-United War of 2011 should apologise. But not Suarez. Doesn't say the last three words out loud in his press conference.

Dec: Suarez found totally guilty. Team FA, feck YEAH!

Dec: Dalglish wanders out of off licence wearing "I <3 Luis Suarez, but not in a bummy way" and is photographed by Liverpool Ehhkkcho, who lead with "Kop King Kenny tries not to drop his bevvy".

Dec: Alan Hansen calls black people 'coloureds'. Twice.

Dec: Hansen apologises for using inappropriate language. Says he meant 'darkies'.

Dec: Glen Johnson says he will support Alan Hansen "if I want to!" Also adds that it's his party and he retains the option to cry.

Dec-Jan: Liverpool fans enter Guiness Book of World Records for managing to racially abuse everyone on the internet in the space of three weeks.

Jan: Mark Lawrensen reveals that Kenny Dalglish has a shrine to Rab C Nesbitt in his Southport home.

Jan: Kenny Dalglish knocks on Sir Alex Ferguson's door and asks his mum if he's coming out? Sir Alex hides behind the door and mimes to his mum that he is sick and to get rid of Kenny. Sir Alex's mum scolds him afterwards and says he should tell Kenny himself next time and that she wan't do his dirty work for him again.

Jan: Liverpool fans racially abuse Oldham player, Tom Adeyemi, during their FA Cup 3rd round tie. When questioned by the police, the fans arrested explained "We missed him out when we did that world rehhkkcord thing, la".

Jan: Robbie Fowler gets into trouble for dressing up as Cilla Black at a party. Where he definitely didn't snort any coke. And wasn't seen through a double mirror. Anyway, the mirror is just as bad as the sun, so feck them both.


Tomorrow: Kenny Dalglish reveals that Liverpool's number one target in the January transfer window is Nick Griffin.
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:lol::lol::lol: Good effort
 
Badunk said:
You reach a point where you think "Okay, this is it. This is the worst they can do. They cannot possibly dig themselves any deeper into a hole", then BOOM! Their fans racially abuse an Oldham player and Robbie Fowler posts a pic of himself blacked up. Someone should do a timeline. Okay, I'll do one.

October: Suarez allegedly says racially abusive things in heated exchange during Liverpool/United game. Says he is misunderstood. "No, Meester Evra, not in those trays. Uno dos tres!"

Oct-Dec: Kenny Dalglish maintains dignified silence. Also brings up the incident in every press conference. Every day. Says loser in great Liverpool-United War of 2011 should apologise. But not Suarez. Doesn't say the last three words out loud in his press conference.

Dec: Suarez found totally guilty. Team FA, feck YEAH!

Dec: Dalglish wanders out of off licence wearing "I <3 Luis Suarez, but not in a bummy way" and is photographed by Liverpool Ehhkkcho, who lead with "Kop King Kenny tries not to drop his bevvy".

Dec: Alan Hansen calls black people 'coloureds'. Twice.

Dec: Hansen apologises for using inappropriate language. Says he meant 'darkies'.

Dec: Glen Johnson says he will support Alan Hansen "if I want to!" Also adds that it's his party and he retains the option to cry.

Dec-Jan: Liverpool fans enter Guiness Book of World Records for managing to racially abuse everyone on the internet in the space of three weeks.

Jan: Mark Lawrensen reveals that Kenny Dalglish has a shrine to Rab C Nesbitt in his Southport home.

Jan: Kenny Dalglish knocks on Sir Alex Ferguson's door and asks his mum if he's coming out? Sir Alex hides behind the door and mimes to his mum that he is sick and to get rid of Kenny. Sir Alex's mum scolds him afterwards and says he should tell Kenny himself next time and that she wan't do his dirty work for him again.

Jan: Liverpool fans racially abuse Oldham player, Tom Adeyemi, during their FA Cup 3rd round tie. When questioned by the police, the fans arrested explained "We missed him out when we did that world rehhkkcord thing, la".

Jan: Robbie Fowler gets into trouble for dressing up as Cilla Black at a party. Where he definitely didn't snort any coke. And wasn't seen through a double mirror. Anyway, the mirror is just as bad as the sun, so feck them both.


Tomorrow: Kenny Dalglish reveals that Liverpool's number one target in the January transfer window is Nick Griffin.
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Excellent !
 
Oh dear the deluded feckers are just class - A scouser i know has claimed on facebook that it must have been a United fan in the kop (as the tickets have been on general sale) and that the Oldham player in question has been paid off, by Man United, to claim racial abuse!!!!!

Tinfoil hats all round methinks. :wenger:
 
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