RAWK Goes Into Meltdown (2011/2012)

That Anfield Cat's getting too big for his boots.
 
SteveJ said:
That Anfield Cat's getting too big for his boots.
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I think its bang out of order to blame the cat

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So annoyed. They've moved Neighbours because of the manc game tonight. Why is it everything they do infuriates me?
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Shameful once again by Fergie. Disrupting the tv schedule just to piss of scouse fans of Australian soaps. I bet he fecks with Home and Away next.
 
Meanwhile on Facebook
"Eh, wtf? missin neighbours for those manc cnuts like. Hope they all get career ending injuries. JFT 96 YAWN "
 
See the discussion of the cheapening of the hillsborough campaign in the previous page
 
If you ask my real opinion a country like England, that is probably the most hierarchical country in Europe, has no right calling other people racists or whatever so it really upsets me that they spacegoat Suarez like they have done and Im glad their president spoke up and defended him.
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They reckon Cavani is going to join them because Liverpool are the team to love in Uruguay.
 
Dear all RAWK:

1. Suares is not a racist
2. He did admit called evra with the term "NEGRO"
3. If you're too dumb to think that it's okay to called a black people NEGRO, then you should have a look at yourself
4. SAF did not fear you or Suarez, you guys aren't even threatening. You're just a midtable club at the moment, to think that SAF needs to pull a Watergate scale conspiracy to have Suarez ban is absurd.
5. I respect your team for all the history and stuff, but take that red tinted spec off and think for a second : Your so called innocent player called people "NEGRO", not once, but 5 times... and the best thing is, he admitted it.
 
by rawk rational : it is ok to call someone negro, or negrito. Funny how they'll react if one of our players called Johnson Negrito

EDIT : if you're uruguayan, or "Enter phrase according to your native language here" if you're "other language speaking"
 
"If you cannot understand that its been a fecking set up from the word go - then for your own sake I really wouldn't come on here much. Support LFC in ways other than coming on these forums because with your point of view people will RIGHTLY disagree with you. (You might be right on all the footballing matters in the world but on this matter you are so very very wrong)."

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Because it's so obvious to everyone who has opened his eyes that this was a fecking set up. The Liverpool fans aren't deluded.. They're just misunderstood by us who haven't been enlighted as to this conspiracy yet..
 
If you can't beat them, join them. My open letter:

Dear Fergie and Evra.

Well done on pulling the massive conspiracy to get Suarez banned. As Liverpool's, nay, the league's most potent player, this was a master-stroke. Indeed, had you pair been consulted in 1969, the moon landing hoax would have ran a lot more smoothly. Keep up the good work lads.

Pj, aged 22 and a half.

PS, one teeny weeny question. If you were going to all this bother to victimise a South American, might it have made more sense to our title push to have gone after Aguero?
 
Makki said:
"If you cannot understand that its been a fecking set up from the word go - then for your own sake I really wouldn't come on here much. Support LFC in ways other than coming on these forums because with your point of view people will RIGHTLY disagree with you. (You might be right on all the footballing matters in the world but on this matter you are so very very wrong)."

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Because it's so obvious to everyone who has opened his eyes that this was a fecking set up. The Liverpool fans aren't deluded.. They're just misunderstood by us who haven't been enlighted as to this conspiracy yet..
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A set up by who??

They are a threat to no-one. The most ridiculous aspect of their theories is the idea that Evra or Ferguson would conspire to get Suarez banned - it affects us, and benefits us in no-way whatsoever.

It's stunning the number of fans still unable to accept or agree with the conclusion that if you call a player negro on the football pitch nowadays, you will get banned. Suarez' ignorance of its connotations were clearly taken into account as the ban was a mere 8 matches but I fail to see how anyone remotely educated could object to punishing the use of the word negro or think it has nothing to do with his ban.
 
Badunk said:
Shameful once again by Fergie. Disrupting the tv schedule just to piss of scouse fans of Australian soaps. I bet he fecks with Home and Away next.
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Neighbours is the original dole-culture daytime filling pastime...wayyyy before Jeremy Kyle and whatever the rat-eating benefit bludgers watch now
 
I would provide a link but I'm on my phone right now. Go check out their 'Liverpool and the Jabberwock' thread. More mushy, soppy, flowery bollocks to be laughed at.
 
Badunk said:
I would provide a link but I'm on my phone right now. Go check out their 'Liverpool and the Jabberwock' thread. More mushy, soppy, flowery bollocks to be laughed at.
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@ Feeky: Oh, the irony of this particular writer's words...

Misinformation and misrepresentation appeared the primary goal of most supporters
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Badunk said:
Shameful once again by Fergie. Disrupting the tv schedule just to piss of scouse fans of Australian soaps. I bet he fecks with Home and Away next.
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First thing he did when he took over at OT was to get Sons and Daughters cancelled.
 
The people of Liverpool are a strange bunch. The population is made up from an influx of immigrants from all over the world, due to it being the number one port in Europe for so many years. Liverpool boasts the first Chinatown in Europe and a plethora of other cultural influences including a strong Gaelic connection. Indeed, there is hardly a Scouser that can trace his family back more than 2 or 3 generations without finding a foreign influence within the family tree, and God only knows how many children have been sired from Scouse blood in the ports across the world, from Asia to Africa to the Americas, it is fair to say that the whole world had a massive influence in Liverpool and its’ population long before the 50’s when other cities got to see its first immigrants.

This multi-cultural makeup is deep at the heart of the Scouse psyche. Like Americans, there is a confidence to a Liverpudlian due to the fact that it takes a certain type of person to leave the security of their homeland and try his luck in pastures knew. Unlike an American though, that confidence has been beaten time and again over the years and has resulted in Liverpool being nicknamed “Self Pity City”. But is it though? Or is it a place where the sense of community is so strong that it is prepared to fight harder when injustice prevails?

During the war, Liverpool had more of its fair share of bombing from the Luftwaffe. Of course, many cities took a pounding, but Liverpool more so because of the direct links with America and the manufacturing industries that grew from the docks and became a major part in the war effort. The people of Liverpool were no strangers to despair though, many having only resided in the city after the potato famine in Ireland or to escape attention from various non-political parties who were trying to map out a future for Ireland in a less than democratic way – or the Governments who were doing the same. Such hardship breeds a sense of community. That can be seen all over the UK, but especially the East End of London, Newcastle, Belfast and Glasgow.

Everything was rosy after the war, and Britain gave the chance to people from all over the Empire to help us out with our jobs, as there was too much work and not enough people to do it. Liverpool, like all port cities was invaded, and many such immigrants stayed within a short distance of their arrival point bringing multi-cultural influence to the expanding cities as a result.

The 80’s brought Thatcher’s reign, and she targeted Liverpool for destruction. There were no votes available for such right wing politics, as it served up a greedy, individualistic mentality as opposed to a social, communal one that Liverpool so thrives upon. Liverpool fought back against Thatcher, and she did not like it. She publicly wished for Liverpool to float off into the Irish Sea and recent papers prove that she was happy to let Liverpool decline. There were few jobs in the city, the streets were overloaded with heroine and there was social unrest culminating in the riots.

Liverpool was not alone to this respect. Glasgow and Newcastle suffered the same fate. The manufacturing bases all suffered – there were few votes available for her in those places. Sheffield & Birmingham suffered too, as did many a mining community over the Yorkshire dales. The difference was that Liverpool received little help from Whitehall afterwards, and was it not for a personal battle between Thatcher and Heseltine, where she hung him out to dry but underestimated his abilities; her master plan may have worked.

All this time, the sense of community upon Merseyside strengthened. They were at war once again, this time against the British Government, not the German one. This community included the immigrants that were welcomed into the city from across the Irish Sea, the Atlantic Ocean and from Asia many years before. They were all in it together. They were all Scousers together.

Long before the country in general could see the devastating effect of Thatcher’s reign, the Merseyside population were standing up to it. The French resistance, if you like, doing damage to the evil that existed wherever and however it could. Whilst other cities were responding too, Liverpool was shouting the loudest, in one voice.

What puts Liverpool apart from other cities though, was the Hillsborough disaster and the aftermath. It was a disaster waiting to happen. The government treated football fans like animals. Or like striking minors. Hillsborough was caused by the governments’ police state and Police Force, as well as the FA. Football supporters around Britain now know that it really was a case of, “There but for the grace of God…” But it is only in recent years that the average supporter has realised who is responsible for Hillsborough and that it could just have easily have happened to any club capable of getting to an FA Cup Semi-final. The reason for the multi decade gap in the realisation of other fans as to what really happened is because before the very first victims were cold, lies were being told by the authorities about what went on. Those that were there on that fateful day knew that what they were hearing on the radio and television immediately afterwards was not true. The pictures of Thatcher standing in the Leppings Lane end brought anger to many – they knew it smelt bad. The community came together like never before. By the time the Sun printed the worst of the lies, the city of Liverpool knew that there was a cover up going on and knew the Government were involved. Once again Liverpool stood up to Westminster, once again a thorn in its side.

The Sun was boycotted and has never recovered. Only now is the rest of the country starting to learn the evil that that particular paper has done and there are other papers too who printed the lies told to them my conservative MP’s and Police Chiefs. The Sun never apologised though, and it has a history of disgraceful journalism. It is loathed for its lies, its nationalism its racism. “Up Your De Lores” and “Gotcha” headlines tell their own tale. But Liverpool is not so nationalistic. Is has been stepped on time and again by its own government and the Fleet Street media. Even the (main members of the) Royal Family snubbed Liverpool in the wake of Hillsborough, preferring to go to the funeral of a war criminal in General Hirohito instead. The city of Liverpool is not like any other city. It has a tendency to spot injustice and wrong doing earlier than others, mainly because it has had it harder than others in this respect.

There are many who believe that Liverpool is not, in reality, part of the UK. Almost like Scotland or Wales. This comes from the way it has been treated over the years, but also from the number of immigrants that make up the fabric of the city who have no pre-conceived loyalty to British Government. That’s right, whereas immigrants feel totally Liverpudlian; there is little feeling of Britishness. This feeling has also infiltrated the non-immigrants.

So you see, the people of Liverpool smell injustice, have a sense of community, and embrace other cultures.

This is why I cannot fathom what is happening at the moment over the Suarez/Evra affair. Liverpool is being tarred as racist, which is in itself a contradiction of the whole make-up of the city. Scousers are not racist, but something stinks in the whole affair, and that is why people are behind Suarez. Were Suarez a racist, then the reaction would be different. But the sense of loyalty has kicked in because that is not the case. One of their own is being tarnished, and worse still, the manager with it. The manager who led the city after Hillsborough, the manager who’s family has done so much in the hospitals of Merseyside and Wirral. The manager who, for every red in Liverpool, is untouchable.

Furthermore, it is against a warped and corrupt authority that the red half of Merseyside protest. The FA has proven time and again the contradiction within its ranks and rulings. It has carried out a kangaroo court in the witch-hunt and the piper controlling the dance is a knight of the realm.

Liverpool should have seen it coming. Not only did that knight try to persuade the footballing world that Benitez was disrespectful for putting a thumb up to one of his players after a goal was scored (in a game not involving United), but he is also a hypocrite in dealing with his own players’ drug issues, monogamy issues and downright violent assaults.

The FA’s and the Medias reaction to is all are also unbelievable. Evra’s evidence alone had more holes in it than Jocky Wilson’s dartboard and in reality, was enough to get him banned under normal circumstances for the exact charges that were put on Suarez. Ferguson has acted more disrespectfully to another club than any manager in the history of football by saying that Suarez should never play for Liverpool again. Neither has even been charged. Suarez had the kangaroo court throw the book at him. And then the bookshelf. And then the library.

23 years after Hillsborough, the fight for justice goes on, but the finishing line is in sight. The more that comes out, the more the guilty parties will suffer. Corruption and cover-up at the highest level will be in the public domain and now the Government, this Tory Government, has damage limitation to do. So does the FA. So does the media and especially it’s most powerful of owners.

Liverpool really should have seen it all coming. After the House of Commons debate on Hillsborough last year as a result of a 140k strong e-petition, one of the Liverpool MP’s warned that Whitehall would not take this lying down. Warned that there would be a backlash. How better to reduce impact of the forthcoming truth than to smear once again the city and the club involved. The London based media are all over it. They will be hurt because of how they reported Hillsborough, and the truth is near. The Manchester press have a different agenda, but an agenda all the same. The FA is likely to look extremely bad upon the release of all documents too. How better to soften the blow than to throw mud at Liverpool and continue throwing until it sticks once again. And Manchester United have much to gain by the castigation of Dalglish and the possible/probably loss of Suarez.

Luis Suarez is no more racist than Ghandi. He is not the angel that Ghandi was, but he is not a racist. This is not about Suarez, this is bigger than that. This is about the biggest cover up in recent political history. A cover-up that the rest of the country needs to be aware of, because it is was their government that instigated it. And they need to learn from history so that it can never be repeated. A corrupt government is the worst thing that can happen to a democracy, and had the country stood up and listened to Liverpool, perhaps the illegal war in Iraq would not have happened saving the lives of so many innocent people, including British Soldiers and Iraqi soldiers and civilians. There was confusion at the time, but an inherent trust in the Government amongst the people. Had they knowledge of previous government corruption, perhaps it would not have been so easy.

But why listen to Liverpool about the Government? Why Listen to Liverpool about the media? Why listen to Liverpool about the FA? I’ll tell you why. Liverpool has experienced it first hand and wants to warn the rest of the country, and the country would do well to listen. But instead the country continues to create stereotypes to mock the city; it invents catchy phrases like Self Pity City to try to keep the city down. Self Pity City? How about a city that fights injustice with a passion while others cannot even fight their own ignorance. How about a city that sees wrongdoing while others cannot see the nose on their face. The people of Liverpool have taken more than one for the team, and still get castigated by corrupt authorities with the support of the naive.

This is about more than a handshake, or lack of one. This all stinks of corruption and that is what this is about. The people of Liverpool are winning and the authorities and the powers that be will get a bloody, red nose. The truth will come out, but Liverpool has fought for 23 years and will not give up now.

The backlash will continue and more will happen. Murdoch and Sky will make sure of that. Ferguson will make sure of that and the powers that be in Whitehall will make sure of that. The City of Liverpool is up for a fight though and the trigger finger is twitching as I write
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The Real Agenda Behind the Ban and the Handshake
 
I'm sorry but there is so much in that post that I take umbrage to, but i will keep it short. Firstly, I absolutely abhor the use of our long fight for justice and recent Hillsborough petition to even attempt to justify the events of recent weeks. I think it does our 96 and their families a huge disservice. Secondly, the sweeping generalisations is astonishing. Scousers as an entire people may not be racist, but there are many racist Scousers, which I know from personal experience. If you think I'm wrong, you're at best naive and at worst wilfully ignorant. I'll leave it there.
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Bravo!
 
The funny thing is swap Liverpool for Manchester and 90% could apply to either.
 
I think something that has been missed from our point of view and perhaps even in the same way Liverpool have tried to paint a very different picture to the actual scenario that happened... is that surprisingly there is a lot of sane Liverpool fans around that are embarrassed, ashamed and disgusted at their own club and fellow supporters actions.

We've been quick to paint the whole Liverpool fan base as raving lunatics with a victim mentality and a distorted view of reality but it's a bit like how the US Government had people thinking anyone with a turban and a beard was dangerous to our health.

I really do feel sorry for the sane Liverpool fans who have to be tarred with the same brush as the "extremists", they're the only genuine Victims at that club right now.
 
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