Rate the Summer 2024 Window

Rate the summer 2024ntransfer window (0 = complete failure, 10 = perfect in every way)

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BenitoSTARR

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(I’ll update this post with all incomings and outgoings and fees)

INS

Matthijs De Ligt (Bayern) - Permanent
Sekou Kone (Guidars) - Permanent
Noussair Mazraoui (Bayern) - Permanent
Manuel Ugarte (PSG) - Permanent
Leny Yoro (Lille) - Permanent
Joshua Zirkzee (Bologna) - Permanent

OUTS

Sonny Aljofree (Accrington) - Loan
Rhys Bennett (Fleetwood Town) - Loan
Alvaro Fernandez (Benfica) - Permanent
Will Fish (Cardiff City) - Permanent
Omari Forson (Monza) - Permanent
Mason Greenwood (Marseille) - Permanent
Hannibal (Burnley) - Permanent
Elyh Harrison (Chester) - Loan
Tom Huddlestone - Retired
Joe Hugill (Wigan Athletic) - Loan
Willy Kambwala (Villarreal) - Permanent
Marcus Lawrence - Released
Anthony Martial - Released
Charlie McNeill (Sheffield Wednesday) - Permanent
Scott McTominay (Napoli) - Permanent
James Nolan (Inverness) - Loan
Maxi Oyedele (Legia Warsaw) - Permanent
Facundo Pellistri (Panathinaikos) - Permanent
Kie Plumley - Released
Shola Shoretire (PAOK) - Permanent
Donny van de Beek (Girona) - Permanent
Raphael Varane (Como) - Permanent
Radek Vitek (Blau-Weiss Linz) - Loan
Aaron Wan-Bissaka (West Ham) - Permanent
Brandon Williams - Released
Tom Wooster (Farsley Celtic) - Loan

*Jadon Sancho - Loan with obligation will update when final information available
 
8.5

The only blight is a lack of a more classic number 9 option there was talk of that happening as early as january, and hojlund injury record means we will play large spells of season as we did in opening games. Unless someone appears in January
 
7 out of 10

Great job on outgoing but incomings should have been better. Ultimately, I think we did the right thing holding off on signing players that don’t fit like Sterling despite the temptation but the squad is short of goals.

Not sacking EtH based on FA cup final was a big mistake. I think we will struggle to get top 4 under this manager and will be hamstrung again next summer due to lack of UCL.

Edit - forgot to add that the new structure is so much better and professional than the clowns in charge earlier.
 
Really good window. I'd give it an 8. We are light in certain areas, but that's fine. It's a work in progress. We did a lot of heavy lifting.

Another big window required next summer. Still need another 4 or 5 in, plus various sales. Get all that done and we'll be flying.
 
7/10.

But this squad will not score enough goals again this year.
 
7/10 as it stands, assuming Sancho out is a done deal.

What prevents it from being higher is that we really needed to bring in two midfielders this summer.
 
Todd said:
7/10 as it stands, assuming Sancho out is a done deal.

What prevents it from being higher is that we really needed to bring in two midfielders this summer.
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Which would have probably been overkill, you can’t sign too many in one window.
 
Worth noting many of the outgoings have buy-back and/or sell on clauses.
 
7/10 - assuming Sancho goes. Agree not enough goals still in the team/squad. We need Rashford scoring but that seems a big ask based on his start to the season.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
8/10. Very good window.
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Same.

I think we did everything right, but to be fair, a 10/10 summer window is one that makes us competitors for the main trophies. And that was impossible this season.

I think it has been the wisest transfer window we have ever made. Yoro seems to be the next Rio/Varane. De Ligt is a very good CB, I think it will be our best CB. Ugarte seems quite good and at the very worst case, will be a good option to rotate with Cas and Mainoo. Mazraoui looks also very good especially for the price we got for him. No idea for Zirkzee. We are a midfielder short and we are way short in quality in attack, but ideally that will get addressed next season.

But I am more excited for departures. Somehow we got around 60m from Greenwood and Sancho, two complete damaged goods. We got a good fee for McTominay and some money for a few young players, overall north of 100m pounds which is the most we ever got from sales. And the wage bill from being the second or third highest in Europe is probably not even on top 10 anymore.

I think the squad has still weaknesses and I do not think we will get top 4, but we have made massive progress, and we are essentially a striker (or one of Hojlund/Zirkzee progressing), one winger (or Rashford finding his form), a backup midfielder and a left back away from a squad that can compete for everything. And we were nowhere near not long ago.
 
Pointless exercise right now. Ask in December. Then ask again in May.
 
8/10

The goal for INEOS is building a genuine PL contender which will take time, but this was a good window in clearing out players who had no future here to bring in those who raise our technical floor and fit into a tighter wage structure.

Because of the ridiculous excesses in wasted transfer fees and wages created by the Glazers and Murtough that means there was no way to fill in all the gaps and replace everybody we'd ideally like to in one go. At bare minimum it would've been nice to get in an LB, another pivot midfielder, and another winger, but that has to wait while we try to shave off bloated contracts for underperformers like Shaw, Casemiro, Antony, Rashford, and Mount.

As is with the work INEOS did this summer we should have a much greater scope to add to the squad next summer without needing to sell as much to help finance it. I don't think we will finish top-4 and that ETH will go, but if we continue to build in a prudent matter and operate cohesively in the transfer market we will get there in time.

INEOS have just started their project, but the early signs are good.
 
Dannn411 said:
Pointless exercise right now. Ask in December. Then ask again in May.
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1/10 for this contribution.

You can always look at business on paper and see does it address gaps, weaknesses, have we sold the players that needed selling etc.

See you in December then.
 
7.5/10 on paper, which is very good.
Real answer in December and May. Could swing both ways.

Still obvious holes at left back and midfield, not to mention up front.
Our wingers also aren't of the quality we really need.

But given our position, ludicrous wages and financial situation, I'd say INEOS has done very well this window.
 
Woziak said:
Whilst I think it’s been a good window, there’s no way it’s a 10/10 window. The club has 5/6 mid to long term injuries already, misfiring and inexperience strikers and have not yet shown in two years under ETH or previous year that this club can score more than 58 PL goals and guess what two games in we’ve scored 2 PL goals and have 1.5 points per game which is remarkable similar to last season.

There is a reason you can name 9 subs in the PL and use 5 of them. For the next two months this might be the 20 players we use and it’s one of the weakest squads I’ve seen in the last two decades and it might be a 9/10 for Outgoings But it’s barely a 7.5/10 for incomings, we need an experience number 9, an elite left footed right winger and another BTB goal scoring midfielder to replace Scott!

Starting 11;
A Onana, D Dalot, M De Ligt, L Martinez, N Masraoui, M ugarte, K Mainoo, B Fernandes, Garnaucho, J Zirkzee, M Rashford
Subs Bemch; (9)
A Bayinder, H Maguire, J Evan’s, Casemiro, C Eriksen, Antony, Amad, T Collyer, E Wheatley
injured List (5) M Mount, R Hojlund, L Shaw, L Yoro, T Malacia,

For me we needed to add Adrian Rabiot and another number 9 just to compete for top 4/5 and Europa League.

Watch as a repeat of incoming injuries start to derail the club even more by November and we’ll then look back and see how average this window was in terms of incoming players.

Name me one player that excites you in this current United Squad ?
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@Woziak

What is your final rating here then?
 
Garethw said:
7/10.

But this squad will not score enough goals again this year.
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Yep 7 from me too

Said for a good 6 months that this window will not be successful if we don’t add a goalscoring forward. And we haven’t.

Also very short on fullbacks

But promising otherwise.
 
I always find it difficult to rate windows before we've seen much of these players actually play, but from a pure pragmatic standpoint of bringing quality in and raising the floor of our squad, it's definitely been at least a 7-8/10 window. Feel great about the defense, still anxious about our attack, but the most obvious thing is that we seem to have achieved two things we have really struggled with in the past:

1. Not getting fleeced by clubs and paying way above our valuation of players;
2. Generating genuinely decent prices with outgoings.

We've also brought in young players who are clear long-term investments that I'm really excited about, which is a great bonus!
 
9/10, 5 players that improve our Starting XI. Can't ask for much more in one window.

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7/10

Worried about the lack of depth on the wing, rashford needs to get some form, have to hope for no injuries and amad to step up. Big ask, going to be a long season. If we didn't have Europe, I wouldn't be so concerned.

A lb backup wouldve been nice too.
 
I like the incomings on paper, but we'll see how they go on grass. The age profile of all of the signings is a positive step, and I like the idea of us starting to cut out the middleman (Dortmund, Brighton etc) as with the Kone deal.

I'm really impressed by the outgoings, though. Finally we've shown some initiative to get rid of players that have always so obviously been too limited (AWB, McT), and we've properly cleaned up the wage bill (Martial, Varane, Sancho, Beek).
 
8.75/10 if you take into account what our business looked like over the last decade. Best window since feck knows when. Still not enough goals in this side
 
At least an 8 or possibly 8.5

I understand that there’s still some deadwood needing to be moved on (Lindelof, Antony, Casemiro to name a few) and we’re still lacking quality out wide and possibly at left back & depth in midfield….but there’s only so much you can do in 1 window and they’ve gotten almost everything spot on. Very pleased. And all of the signings are fairly young with their best years ahead of them.
 
6.5/10 for me. We've done really good work getting rid of players but I've doubts about the two we signed from Bayern and we've failed to address the issue of not having someone who can take the ball from the defence and progress it forward.
 
7.5 out of ten, mainly for the outgoings. About time we had a proper exodus. Well done, INEOS.
 
The wonder kid we've snaffled from Arsenal should be added to the incomings in the OP if we're including the likes of Marcus Lawrence and Kie Plumley in the outgoings
 
8/10

I feel this is one of those windows that we'll see benefit us in years to come. With all the potential sell on fees for players with a decent amount of potential. I'm expecting a chunk of money coming in from future sales of the following players:

Kambwala
Hannibal
Greenwood
Alvaro Fernandez
Pellistri
 
9/10.

5 sensible signings and two youth prospects in.

Real success is exits. Not just in terms of funds raised but, importantly, slashing the wage bill so we can reward young players according to their contribution to the team and not have them feeling so hard done by when comparing relative salaries to underperforming established players.

Above all else, the fact Scott was sold despite ETH wanting to keep him shows ultimate power no longer lies with manager rather it is with the staff brought in by Ineos. Utd is finally as professionally run on the recruitment side as it is on the commercial side. Massive step forward.
 
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excellent really....

still problems in squad but we were never going to fix them all in one window

to bring in Zirkzee, Ugarte, Mazraoui, De Ligt, prospects like Yoro, Kone and Obi Martin for a net spend of around 150m is impressive

the hardest part was shifting so many players who were a drain or ready to leave for free next year and we've done a very good job.

hopefully they all settle reasonably well and we can fix the remaining squad issues next Summer

we acted professionally and set standards for future business

8/10 for me
 
8/10

Think it's the best window in regards to selling players we've had in quite a while. Also very happy with the ages of the new signings. Think we haven't overpaid apart from possibly the Yoro deal but time will tell with that one.
 
9/10. If you'd said at the start we'd be rid of Sancho, Donny, Martial, Varane, AWB, Greenwood, Hannibal, McTominay I'd have snapped your hand off. Unrealistic to expect many more outgoings or signings than what we've managed.

It's very unlikely that all the signings will be successes but they all seem to be logical which is a huge step in the right direction. Feels like we've made progress in fixing the wage structure as well.
 
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