He's actually a left winger.
Rate our current Transfer window
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I think we will make an announcement to shift focus from our shambolic transfer window. It will most likely be De Gea's contract extension.
Rubbish...Happy enough with who we have signed, cant believe we havnt singed any starting quality midfielders or forwards. Clubs ran by clowns.
He's a winger. Can play both sides, and is right footed. Played more on the left in the championship because his manager preferred an inverted winger. Has played more on the right in preseason, and looked pretty darn good at it.
3/10 if Lukaku and Pogba leave the club, we are in deep trouble again.
Absolutely! If it was 2029 and we paid $200 million - that would make you happy?
Besides, most people giving low ratings because of not clearing deadwood should be happier at the end of the month.
Almost all managers prefer inverted wingers and modern wingers play on the "wrong" side because they can switch to their stronger foot when they cut in.
Being able to play on both sides doesn't make him a right winger as you said above
I would absolutely love to have 200m player in the squad who would accept Europa League level.
On a serious note, do you think we will have a legit right winger in 2029 ?
I think it's currently at 7.5/10
I look at it like this:
As it stands we have kept De Gea and Pogba. Arguably two of our best players.
We look likely to get rid of Lukaku who would have been a disruptive influence IMO.
We have strengthened our first XI in two key positions with Maguire and AWB.
We've also added a good young talent in Dan James.
I think we could do with more depth up front, in midfield and on the right side but I'm satisfied for this particular window.
I look at it like this:
As it stands we have kept De Gea and Pogba. Arguably two of our best players.
We look likely to get rid of Lukaku who would have been a disruptive influence IMO.
We have strengthened our first XI in two key positions with Maguire and AWB.
We've also added a good young talent in Dan James.
I think we could do with more depth up front, in midfield and on the right side but I'm satisfied for this particular window.
5/7 no works class attackers
2/10
Our transfer window is pathetic. We need a midfield player at least and we have got none. It is Woodward playing games with the fans. We simply would not sign any more players this window and we will still be in 5th or 6th place end of the season. At least last year we have two extra midfield players and we have lost both this season now and not replaced them.
No. You've been absolutely focussed on showing me how my notion that Lukaku had been marginalized was wrong, right up until I gave context to the stats you eagerly shared with me me. Your proceeding post then had absolutely nothing go do with what we had been discussing the last 5 hours. So, instead of actually addressing the points you were wrong on, you've moved the conversation full circle. Who's moving the goal posts exactly? You did the same exact same thing when you accused me of saying it had been a great window, despite me previously giving it a 6. You're throwing shit and seeing what sticks.
We've replaced Lukaku with Greenwood. You might not like that but thats what has happened. As I've already demonstrated, and you have so far you've left completely unaddressed because it didn't suit your 'narrative'; when all our players were fit Lukaku wasn't getting many minutes anyway. Greenwood will take those minutes. It was only because we had 4 players pick up injuries within the space of a few weeks, all of whom missed at least 6 games, that Lukaku was getting regular game time at all.
Come on, the bolded part is just lazy. Martial and Rashford are seen as Ole's preferred central strikers, but if our wide forwards pick up an injury then either of the aforementioned players can step in to replace them. Ole wants a fluid front line anyway, which is one of the reasons he's so eager to move on Lukaku. A static, central striker is the last thing he wants.
Do I think we need to sign another attacking player? Absolutely, but you're trying to make out we've got less options than we did last season, when in fact we have more. Greenwood is taking Lukaku's minutes and we've brought James in.
Which brings us back to my original point. We haven't addressed every position that needs addressing and we very light in some areas, but we've managed to fill two vital positions with quality and kept our two most influential players, who looked likely to leave at the beginning of the window. We've also made room for some of the very exciting talent we've developed. So it's not been a brilliant window by any stretch of the imagination, but it hasn't been woeful either. The 2s, 3s and 4s in this thread is typical cafe.
Without a new CM 4/10
If we had signed a tidy, technical centre midfielder I would be genuinely excited for this season. As it is I think we have a glaring hole in midfield which has a very real chance of being compounded by an unhappy Pogba if things don’t go well.
5/10
We have strengthened our defence, but we are lacking in midfield and I do not see where the goals are coming from.
We were 30 goals away from City last year for goals scored,
We were 31 Goals worse from City for goals against.
Seems we have fixed one problem but ignored the other, in fact, weakened it with the sale of a major striker.
Lukaku scored 12 last season in the premier league, who is replacing those goals, let alone score far more?
We have strengthened our defence, but we are lacking in midfield and I do not see where the goals are coming from.
We were 30 goals away from City last year for goals scored,
We were 31 Goals worse from City for goals against.
Seems we have fixed one problem but ignored the other, in fact, weakened it with the sale of a major striker.
Lukaku scored 12 last season in the premier league, who is replacing those goals, let alone score far more?
4/10
I agree that the window has been a joke but disagree on prioritising an attacking midfielder over an attacker. Our attack is simply too green with no proven goal scorers and we will surely regret not bringing in a RW/CF when the goals dry up. Out of the top 6, only Chelsea have an equally bad attack as us.
Having said that, a midfield addition was also necessary, especially a dm but we have messed up the window really bad.
0/10
Hear me out. A transfer window is there in order to strengthen the squad. Overall, I believe we are weaker with huge gaping holes in our midfield and a severe lack of creativity.
Solidifying defence is all well and good, but completely useless if the rest of the squad is waning.
If after a transfer window, the squad is worse than before the window opened, there can be no claim that the window has been remotely successful, despite Maguire and AWB. We are heading for 6th or worse, so no better than last season. Hence, zero advantage has been taken from this transfer window, so it stands that 0/10 is a fair and logical rating.
Had we invested in midfield enough to warrant a likely 5th place then I’d say 2-3/10. Fourth? 4-6/10 depending on football played gaining that position. 3rd? 7-8/10. Of course 2nd should be our aim, and since we only finished 2nd a few seasons ago under JM, it shouldn’t be deemed unrealistic. Had we assembled a team capable of realistically challenging for second place, then this window could be a 9/10. Only winning the league could warrant a 10/10.
Too many fans accept mediocrity these days. This window is wholly unacceptable, if we bring no one else in.
Hear me out. A transfer window is there in order to strengthen the squad. Overall, I believe we are weaker with huge gaping holes in our midfield and a severe lack of creativity.
Solidifying defence is all well and good, but completely useless if the rest of the squad is waning.
If after a transfer window, the squad is worse than before the window opened, there can be no claim that the window has been remotely successful, despite Maguire and AWB. We are heading for 6th or worse, so no better than last season. Hence, zero advantage has been taken from this transfer window, so it stands that 0/10 is a fair and logical rating.
Had we invested in midfield enough to warrant a likely 5th place then I’d say 2-3/10. Fourth? 4-6/10 depending on football played gaining that position. 3rd? 7-8/10. Of course 2nd should be our aim, and since we only finished 2nd a few seasons ago under JM, it shouldn’t be deemed unrealistic. Had we assembled a team capable of realistically challenging for second place, then this window could be a 9/10. Only winning the league could warrant a 10/10.
Too many fans accept mediocrity these days. This window is wholly unacceptable, if we bring no one else in.
Goalkeeper - Looks like De Gea has signed/will be so despite my reservations on his decline he’s one of the best when settled
Defence - Maguire & AWB are great signings [potentially] but Shaw & Lindelof remain & we will still see Ashley Young’a’plenty when Shaw pulls his hamstring at some point. We also have multiple defenders that aren’t rated & are taking up squad positions.
Midfield - Absolutely shambolic from the club. Fellaini & Herrera needed replacing, I suppose McTominay can be seen as being truly promoted but Matic still being a first choice DM is ridiculous.
Attack - We simply aren’t going to score the goals/create the chances. Whilst a strong defence is great, we’ll be scuppered when we go behind. Only justifiable reason for not strengthening these areas is if Chong & Greenwood get a lot of chances. Lakaku [despite being an unprofessional idiot] is also a 20 goal a season striker we’ll be losing [bar last season].
I feel sorry for OgS here, massive holes in the squad that haven’t been filled & he’ll be just as shackled in the January window.
What do Woodward & Co. do? Part of the job has to be conducting business that will be concluded in the off season; it’s always a scattergun approach.
Defence - Maguire & AWB are great signings [potentially] but Shaw & Lindelof remain & we will still see Ashley Young’a’plenty when Shaw pulls his hamstring at some point. We also have multiple defenders that aren’t rated & are taking up squad positions.
Midfield - Absolutely shambolic from the club. Fellaini & Herrera needed replacing, I suppose McTominay can be seen as being truly promoted but Matic still being a first choice DM is ridiculous.
Attack - We simply aren’t going to score the goals/create the chances. Whilst a strong defence is great, we’ll be scuppered when we go behind. Only justifiable reason for not strengthening these areas is if Chong & Greenwood get a lot of chances. Lakaku [despite being an unprofessional idiot] is also a 20 goal a season striker we’ll be losing [bar last season].
I feel sorry for OgS here, massive holes in the squad that haven’t been filled & he’ll be just as shackled in the January window.
What do Woodward & Co. do? Part of the job has to be conducting business that will be concluded in the off season; it’s always a scattergun approach.
5/10
4.75/10
Lukaku played a lot of games under Ole. Like it or not he was not used only in handful of games, which I've already brought stats for. Lukaku also, as any player, can have dips in form or can be given a rest, just like any player. At the end of the day he played more than 3000 minutes for United last year, 45 games - most under Ole.
Martial finished just 4 games the full 90 minutes under Ole. He was often on the bench and other attacking players (including Lukaku) have been preferred over him. Was he marginalized as well? Lukaku's role at the club was first team striker and more often than not he was starter, can you dispute that?
How do you replace someone who has played 45 games last year with someone who has played 3 games in his career and is a teenager at a club fighting for top 4? Did Messi, Ronaldo and one of the very best players over the last decade(and even history) play 45 games in their opening seasons at a top club? Let's be serious for a second, do you honestly expect Greenwood to play in 45 games next season?
And yes players get injured, so don't give me that. Sanchez will also get knocks, Rashford will, Martial will, so I guess Greenwood has to always fill in then?
Then you replace him with a fluid, pressing striker, you had the whole Summer to identify a target and do just that. The point is we didn't bring a forward who can play 45 games and take Lukaku's position in the team. You know when you fail to do that it doesn't really make it a great Summer or average one. A striker/forward position is fairly important.
Again you expect some lads that didn't kick a football at top level to play 40-50 games next season? Are we in a worse state in attack than last year? Absolutely. Sanches is an year older, injury prone and to use your term - marginalized by Ole. Mata is an year older on the wrong side of 30 and declining every year.
Looking forward to seeing Greenwood playing 3000 minutes next year.
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We managed to keep two of the most influential players, one of which is unhappy and his head seemingly turned. 'Making room' isn't what top clubs are actually doing. If the young ones are good enough they will break through. We don't need to get rid of all the senior players just to make it easy for them.
It has been woeful by far when you consider that we couldn't shift any of the deadwood. You know something that we said we will do in the beginning through the management. Unless you consider Herrera and Lukaku as deadwood of course...
We are short in two positions in midfield. Matic another year older, Mctominay played 22 games last year so if he takes some of Matic's you are still 2 positions short. Attack is worse, of course you would argue otherwise with Greenwood playing 3000 minutes next year.
We have brought in RB to replace Young - well duh he's 34. Reinforced CB where we have another 6 CB's - naturally won't argue that's good, and then?
- no shifting deadwood
- no RW
- no CF
- no DM
- no AM
and you would argue with 3's and 4's?
5.
Not just on signings but not moving on players.
Waiting months to cough up the money for Maguire.
7 cbs , Darmian still here, looks like no replacement for Lukaku as of yet. That should have been done before he was sold.
Not going after Alderweireld was criminal.
Not just on signings but not moving on players.
Waiting months to cough up the money for Maguire.
7 cbs , Darmian still here, looks like no replacement for Lukaku as of yet. That should have been done before he was sold.
Not going after Alderweireld was criminal.
Can we rename this thread Rant Our Current Transfer Window.
Ole already showing his inexperience before a ball’s been kicked this season. Can’t wait to see how the club spin this ineptitude. Even with the ambition for the season clearly set so low, I still recon he’ll be gone by Christmas.
feck me @Enigma_87 I've given the details that show, categorically, Lukaku only got minutes because of a rift of injuries, and yet here you are, still rambling on in a vain attempt to prove otherwise. The stats are there. They are comprehensive. It's mind boggling you're still trying to argue it. There's really no point in carrying on. Reply if you must. I won't bother.
And injuries will happen again. So your main point is Greenwood will take his place. Do you believe honestly he will play 3000 minutes?
We will still pick up injuries and the squad is shorter in midfield/attack. You have James, but you also have players like Lingard and Mata who will play CM to fill in when midfielders pick up injuries.
Rashford missed just 1 game last season due to injury. Martial missed 8. That's 9 games from our main players in attack. If one is injured for a month or two you are basically fecked and will be running young players to the ground.
You do realize Ole wants high press and high energy football. He has short squad in attack and there is where the press starts. Would be fecking surprise we again start to pick injuries because we don't have players in attack to rotate..
With the way it looks now with Lukaku our and nobody else in... 4/10
5/10
Happy with the starting defence everywhere else is a mess.
We are a few injuries away from failing to qualify for Thursday night football.
Can't wait for the season to start.
Happy with the starting defence everywhere else is a mess.
We are a few injuries away from failing to qualify for Thursday night football.
Can't wait for the season to start.
3/10
Can’t believe we haven’t done anything to fix our midfield.
Can’t believe we haven’t done anything to fix our midfield.
Insufficient
No issue with what we signed, but we needed so much more. Remember this was meant to be a rebuild. 70 million net, when we finished 32 pts behind speaks volumes.
The bottom line is we have no interest in closing that 32pt gap. We are only interested in closing the 6pt gap to fourth.
We are no longer even contenders.
Do you remember when rival fans used to slag the sh!t out of us if we finished second?
No issue with what we signed, but we needed so much more. Remember this was meant to be a rebuild. 70 million net, when we finished 32 pts behind speaks volumes.
The bottom line is we have no interest in closing that 32pt gap. We are only interested in closing the 6pt gap to fourth.
We are no longer even contenders.
Do you remember when rival fans used to slag the sh!t out of us if we finished second?
As of this moment its a 5/10. Some very good signings, but it also needed a midfielder to make it a decent window.
7/10. Probably fixed 2 big problems but left with at least 2 more.
How the hell is there 7 or even higher ratings in here.
5/10,
7/10 if we sign a decent midfielder tomorrow and 9/10 if we manage to replace Lukaku on top of that.
7/10 if we sign a decent midfielder tomorrow and 9/10 if we manage to replace Lukaku on top of that.
100% agree with this. Fantastic that it looks like Pogba and De Gea are staying, and the defence looks great with AWB Lindelof Maguire Shaw.
But it is criminal and negligent how our midfield is looking - I can forgive the forwards as long as Greenwood, Chong and Gomes get serious chances this season, but the midfield is diabolical.
Pogba is still our only true outlet, with the others having a whole list of problems:
- Matic is done
- Fred still unknown how his second season will go
- Pereira simply not good enough
- McTominey looking to progress well but lots of pressure
GK - Kept DDG and Henderson has a new contract - 10/10
Defence - Solved two positions, Maguire maybe not people’s first choice but I reckon he’ll step up. Still one injury away from Young starting at FB though - 9/10
Midfield - Criminally negligent handling - two lost and not replaced - 0/10
Attack - Young, raw, unproven LW bought to play RW and Lukaku shipped out with, seemingly no replacement other than a 17yr old - 2/10
I have gone from being quite positive about a week ago to feeling quite flat, faced with the prospect of losing Lukaku, no replacement, losing Herera, no replacemnt, not addressing the right wing, not getting rid of any of the dross clogging up the wage bill.
Am quite positive about our defense and all things being equal think we stand a great chance of top 4 but it is very much dependent on lots of young academy players firing for us, could all go terribly pear shaped!
Am quite positive about our defense and all things being equal think we stand a great chance of top 4 but it is very much dependent on lots of young academy players firing for us, could all go terribly pear shaped!
No I don't. I also dont think we will have 4 simultaneous injuries where everyone is out for at least 6 games. You don't either. But you're feebly clinging to this point despite it being entirely exposed. We aren't shorter in attack, we've literally replaced Lukaku with Greenwood and added James on top. What bat shit crazy maths are you carrying out.And injuries will happen again. So your main point is Greenwood will take his place. Do you believe honestly he will play 3000 minutes?
We will still pick up injuries and the squad is shorter in midfield/attack. You have James, but you also have players like Lingard and Mata who will play CM to fill in when midfielders pick up injuries.
Rashford missed just 1 game last season due to injury. Martial missed 8. That's 9 games from our main players in attack. If one is injured for a month or two you are basically fecked and will be running young players to the ground.
You do realize Ole wants high press and high energy football. He has short squad in attack and there is where the press starts. Would be fecking surprise we again start to pick injuries because we don't have players in attack to rotate..
