They need to shit or get off the pot with him man it was inevitable he would return to football when the case was dropped, most likely deciding on whether the reaction is worth it or not but that will disappear eventually anyway it always does people get bored, particularly if he bangs in goals.
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Doesn't EtH also want to play him? Do you hate EtH?
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He hasn't. He was top class prospect 18 months ago. He was in the same bracket as Rashford was in 2018 for example. Highest level to me means the season Rashford just had of we are using the same stick.
Martial again was high level performer in terms of talent, but he doesn't have the mentality, nor the desire to take it to another level. Injuries didn't help too, but he isn't working hard enough that he should.
To me MG was a top prospect in the same mold Januzaj was in his breakthrough season under Moyes.
The Atalanta kid seems at the same stage MG was 2 years ago and he looks like is the more hardworking type, compared to MG who is the better natural talent.
I hate a section of our fans. We should remember that there are sometimes more important things than football
Relax dude you are doing too much.
Keep them opinions to yourself. It’s incentive.
It has nothing to do with who he plays for or even his profession, the legal system declined to prosecute him based on the evidence they have, some of that evidence is public and some of it s not, the stuff that is not public must be exculpatory in some way because he public evidence is quite damning on it's own
At the end of the day I'm not going to judge based on knowing only some of the facts
Talking to yourself fella
If we’re even thinking of Loaning him out then does that mean we’ve investigated it all or does it just mean we’re getting rid of a problem and passing him onto someone els? Also gives us more time to make a decision…
Anyway back to Erling Hojlund..
I think ETH wants to know if he can or not. He has to be a pragmatist and look at it from the point of view of what does he have available in his squad so he needs to know if MG will be available as that shapes decisions on transfers, loans etc. He would probably be fine with MG being shipped out so long as he gets clarity and the option to replace him with a signing.
He was a far better player than Rashford at the same age.
It’s been a while but you are undercooking how naturally gifted this kid is. I think their was an article by Nicky Butt which adds a club perspective to what we was actually witnessing.
But if he plays again and gets momentum we can re-access our opinions.
Maybe look into it yourself? There was audio and it looks really bad. You can‘t react the way you did if you have no clue what is going on.
My colleague was speaking to the guy who was Fleetwood Chairman (before he was recently jailed) and he was saying that the fuss around Ched Evans when he signed for them soon stopped once he started banging in the goals - and I think Ched was actually found guilty, right?
Come on. I haven’t said nothing wrong.
I didn't know United wanted 21-year-old Osimhen rather than the current one. I never said he is trash, but if United are interested in an elite striker he's not at that level currently.
When are we going to be able to discuss no.11 openly? I’ve a burning question for those that want to loan him out.
It means the club realise he's too toxic and bad for PR to keep around the playing squad and want to stall time on a more permanent decision.
Also obviously if he goes to Atalanta and performs it means maybe getting more money for him next summer with a full sale.
MG seems related to this transfer as he's either included in the deal or facilitating it so it's worth the discussion.
Doesn’t matter what us as fans think really. The most important person in it is his girlfriend and she’s forgiven him. It’s down to the club now. If he goes on loan for a season then I reckon it’s all forgot about and blown over within a year, he’ll become like a fan favourite at another club if he bangs in goals for them.
I know he's not but we aren't signing either Osimhen/Kane this summer so need to look at the next tier down which includes this guy
The fact that he's training suggests the decision has already been made, they're probably still trying to figure out how to announce it
For 50 mil? Absolutely. Good riddance to him.
And seeing their fans cheering to his goals would be also funny.
There’s a certain poster on this page that has some god awful views on stuff. Everyone’s entitled to an opinion, but fecking hell - it looks as if he has zero idea into the Greenwood story at all.
Genuine question; do you live in a like-minded and affluent area?
To say they declined to prosecute because of the evidence they have and the stuff that we've seen heard is slightly disingenuous. It seems mainly because the witness - probably his GF - withdrew
“In this case a combination of the withdrawal of key witnesses and new material that came to light meant there was no longer a realistic prospect of conviction. In these circumstances, we are under a duty to stop the case."
He was found guilty and served time, however he appealed the conviction and the court of appeals ordered a re-trial in which he was found not guilty, he also later used his lawyers and won and got 800K
They dropped the case because of a withdrawal of the witness, you make it sound like he went through a court of law and was proven innocent. He wasn't.
He was but then he was also exonerated. The big difference in the cases would be that Evans actually went to trial both for the initial conviction and subsequent appeal and retrial when he was found innocent. The evidence is all out there in the public domain. With MG there has never been a trial so we don't know the totality of the evidence used by the prosecution in deciding to press charges nor do we know precisely what subsequently came to light to cause the charges to be dropped.
Nope. Also "new material came to light" aka new evidence. Anyway, this was not my point. I'm neutral. My point was let the club make the calls and no point to derail this theard
Ok I get the innocent untill proven guilty take. Something that should always be in our society.
Im of the opinion the there’s enough evidence to at least judge the man as a horrible fecker. There’s not much of a fence to sit on.Shouldn’t be playing for this club again.
Sexual offences against women are notoriously hard to get to stick. Thinking that it didn’t get to court because some evidence exists that shows he’s not in the wrong seems incredibly naive.
it's a good business deal for everyone involved....Hojlund gets the move he wants and we get a young #9 who looks to have all the ability to be a top top class player. Mason gets a fresh start in another country away from the english press and united. he gets a chance to mature, rebuild his career and hopefully grow up a bit.
what he did was horrific but at the end of the day, no prosecution took place and the family involved has taken the steps they needed to put this incident behind them. As much as people want to be judge, jury and executioner, we have to hope giving him a second chance will help turn his life around. If the girls parents are willing to do so, who are we to judge anyone?
what he did was horrific but at the end of the day, no prosecution took place and the family involved has taken the steps they needed to put this incident behind them. As much as people want to be judge, jury and executioner, we have to hope giving him a second chance will help turn his life around. If the girls parents are willing to do so, who are we to judge anyone?
Obviously, United would rather have strikers like Kane/Osimhen/Muani but would settle for Højlund due to cost. The question is if settling for the next tier down is really worth it?
Well to be honest there are lots of cases where victims go back to their abuser and i have to say I was pretty shocked and appalled by the quotes coming from people close to the victim who seemed far more upset that the relationship ended rather than what had took place. What's also really odious to me is that this seems yet another situation where money talks, and if you're rich you can often escape justice.
I do believe in second chances but you have to pay for the crime first. MG actually has a second chance to resurrect his career...just not here. Some fans, who seem to only be considering his use to us as a football player and nothing else, make it seem like he is the actual victim here.
Its simply an experiment. Obviously reintegrating him back is not as option there would be too much backlash. So send him on loan, this time next year he'll have a baby with the lady, might have shook up serie a a bit.
There could be talks of him becoming a new man, making lifestyle changes, getting help for whatever leads to a person heading in the direction he was heading. Blah blah blah. The goals will help. United fans will be begging for his return.
And we don't know the reason why the key witnesses withdrew or what this new material is - that's why I'm not judging
To me they were both comparable talents. But agree to disagree of course, Mason was touted for years in the youth setup.
Yeah because IF and it's still a massive one it leaves the door open to sign one of the first two when price comes down in Oshimen's case or pick up on a free in Kane's
Hojlund seems to be the second tier striker right now from Kane and Osimhen due to their fees...
my question i guess is why Muani isn't heavily linked with a move away to big clubs right now? Hojlund seems to be getting more ink than Muani
my question i guess is why Muani isn't heavily linked with a move away to big clubs right now? Hojlund seems to be getting more ink than Muani
Ye 100%. A lot of rich people get away with loads. The reason he didn’t get punished though must be down to his girlfriend withdrawing. The audio we all heard would surely be enough to charge him right? Was he still getting his wages from the club or did they stop? I know Nike and other firms stopped sponsoring him.
But surely you can't disagree with the people who choose to judge based on the picture and audio evidence they seen heard as well
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