Rasmus Højlund | Signed for United

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All touches highlights are always more informative. I have seen a few now and they just confirm my initial reaction. He's far from ready to lead the line for a top team in the PL. He doesn't look for example better than Scamacca before his move to WHU.
 
The problem with the Atalanta system is that often times Hojlund is left isolated and so it’s harder for a young striker in this situation, don’t think he’d have the same issues at United personally
 
I would worry about signing him as the only striker - could well turn out to be another Sancho scenario, where the expectations and price tag are too high.

I don't see anything where this kid is "Haaland 2.0" but if we signed him, it would be expected for him to be H2.0

Kane or bust IMO

Kane would absolutely deliver - and then this kid can be nurtured
 
cpresc said:
I would worry about signing him as the only striker - could well turn out to be another Sancho scenario, where the expectations and price tag are too high.

I don't see anything where this kid is "Haaland 2.0" but if we signed him, it would be expected for him to be H2.0

Kane or bust IMO

Kane would absolutely deliver - and then this kid can be nurtured
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Honestly it looks like young prospect ala Hojlund paired with a cheaper older experienced striker
 
L1nk said:


Honestly it looks like young prospect ala Hojlund paired with a cheaper older experienced striker
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Question is who would be experienced one. I hope we aren't thinking in the Vardy age bracket for it
 
L1nk said:


Honestly it looks like young prospect ala Hojlund paired with a cheaper older experienced striker
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We are only after finding out now? Could this not have been established a couple of months ago? We are so disorganised it’s not even funny. I feel for ETH.
 
El-Manos said:
We are only after finding out now? Could this not have been established a couple of months ago? We are so disorganised it’s not even funny. I feel for ETH.
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This is why the Hojlund thing is gathering pace
 
El-Manos said:
We are only after finding out now? Could this not have been established a couple of months ago? We are so disorganised it’s not even funny. I feel for ETH.
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I think it's more like Kane is our obvious first choice and we waited to see where Spurs finished before approaching them for Kane and we're not having much luck at doing so. It's already been reported by The Athletic and Laurie ETH has had multiple conversations with Hojlund for example so it's not like we haven't prepared for this scenario. My guess is if we do move on from Kane soon, which seems likely at this point given all reports, then i'd expect Hojlund to be signed pretty quickly first and then we take our time finding a decent cheap experienced striker
 
L1nk said:
I think it's more like Kane is our obvious first choice and we waited to see where Spurs finished before approaching them for Kane and we're not having much luck at doing so. It's already been reported by The Athletic and Laurie ETH has had multiple conversations with Hojlund for example so it's not like we haven't prepared for this scenario. My guess is if we do move on from Kane soon, which seems likely at this point given all reports, then i'd expect Hojlund to be signed pretty quickly first and then we take our time finding a decent cheap experienced striker
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Yeah that's how I see it playing out too
 
I'm unconvinced by his goalscoaring record. He's my countryman so I'd love it if he came here and excelled, but his numbers are just not that great. He's young, so that's not necessarily a damning indictment, but I don't much feel like he'd bang them in on a conveyor belt.

If we can get him for less than £50m, I'd be pleased enough with that. I just think he'd cost much more, and while he seems to be a very good player, I find it hard to trust that he'll score enough goals to be the solution to our problems in that regard.
 
croadyman said:
Would people consider 32 too old
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You’re perfect for a seat ok the United board…sign players based on reputation and ‘experience’ as 32 is a great age for a pro athlete (bar the odd freak example who can play a top club in a physically dominating roll…so exclude keeper / quarter back / centre half and cricket
 
Dansk said:
I'm unconvinced by his goalscoaring record. He's my countryman so I'd love it if he came here and excelled, but his numbers are just not that great. He's young, so that's not necessarily a damning indictment, but I don't much feel like he'd bang them in on a conveyor belt.

If we can get him for less than £50m, I'd be pleased enough with that. I just think he'd cost much more, and while he seems to be a very good player, I find it hard to trust that he'll score enough goals to be the solution to our problems in that regard.
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You could have easily said the same about Harry Kane at his age though, sometimes it's about the right time, environment, players etc. Obviously he is a risk as you say but there's also nothing to suggest he couldn't explode next season with the trajectory he's on too
 
croadyman said:
Would people consider 32 too old
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Most likely. However, a 32 year old with a year left on his contract would keep the cost down and allow you to spend more in other areas. If we can't get Kane, then I'd rather we went the Højlund and Ben Yedder route, rather than spending "Kane money" on a player who doesn't justify it.
 
croadyman said:
Question is who would be experienced one. I hope we aren't thinking in the Vardy age bracket for it
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Maybe Rodrigo? Managed to score 13 league goals with a shitty Leeds, his contract expires in 2024, is PL-proven and has a 3m relegation clause apparently. Can't be worse than WW.
 
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El-Manos said:
We are only after finding out now? Could this not have been established a couple of months ago? We are so disorganised it’s not even funny. I feel for ETH.
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It’s a shit report. This was reported elsewhere weeks ago
 
L1nk said:
You could have easily said the same about Harry Kane at his age though, sometimes it's about the right time, environment, players etc. Obviously he is a risk as you say but there's also nothing to suggest he couldn't explode next season with the trajectory he's on too
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You also have to consider Harry Kane is the exception rather than the rule. Not many players make it to that level. That being said I'd like us to take the risk in Hojlund if we can get him at the right price.
 
United just need to start the season with a better duo than Martial/Weghorst...anyone would be an improvement at this stage.
 
croadyman said:
Question is who would be experienced one. I hope we aren't thinking in the Vardy age bracket for it
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Moussa Dembele and Marcus Thurman are both available on a free. Dembele isn’t too class but could be an experienced bench option.
 
El-Manos said:
We are only after finding out now? Could this not have been established a couple of months ago? We are so disorganised it’s not even funny. I feel for ETH.
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The window has not even opened mate.
 
Red Rash said:
You also have to consider Harry Kane is the exception rather than the rule. Not many players make it to that level. That being said I'd like us to take the risk in Hojlund if we can get him at the right price.
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But I feel like there are many examples of players who, from a pure numbers perspective, maybe didn't put up great numbers in a season just gone by, only to put up great numbers the season after.. again not to say Hojlund will do this or go on to have a great career at all, but I prefer to look at a players attributes and not purely numbers when figuring if a player is worth taking a chance on, and I think his attributes for his age are extremely good, and the kind we are looking for in a striker

Harry Kane
13-14 - 19 apps and 4 goals
14-15 - 51 apps 31 goals

Mohamed Salah
15-16 - 42 apps 15 goals
16-17 - 41 apps 19 goals
17-18 - 52 apps 44 goals

Thierry Henry
98-99 - 19 apps 3 goals
99-00 (before xmas) - 3 apps 0 goals
99-00 (after signing with Arsenal) - 48 apps 26 goals

Robert Lewandowski
10-11 - 43 apps 9 goals
11-12 - 47 apps 30 goals

These are just a few examples, now again this isn't to compare Hojlund to any of them or to say Hojlund will have even the fraction of the career these players are having/had, but my point is to judge based purely on numbers especially at such a young age is not a way we should be judging imo. Recent players like Haaland have skewed this perspective I feel, there isn't many players at his age past or present that are absolute world class and putting up insane numbers.

If we sign Hojlund to me something like 20 goals is a very realistic possibility, which quite frankly, is a massive improvement on what we have now if nothing else. He often plays for Atalanta has a lone striker in a formation that really keeps him isolated, with his attributes just imagine the goals we could be getting with the likes of Bruno, even if you disregarded most of his attributes and only took his ability to find space and timing of runs into the box we'd have a skillset in a forward that we currently don't have, someone who poaches in the box.
 
Adisa said:
The window has not even opened mate.
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We say this every year. We are incredibly disorganised when it comes to organising transfers. They never get a pre season in the way the manager would like. This isn’t some newfound information, everyone knows this.
 
El-Manos said:
We are only after finding out now? Could this not have been established a couple of months ago? We are so disorganised it’s not even funny. I feel for ETH.
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Silly comment. This news has been out for ages and its also been reported we’ve established contact and with clubs for alternatives weeks ago too.
Hojlund and Muani.
 
Cassidy said:
Silly comment. This news has been out for ages and its also been reported we’ve established contact and with clubs for alternatives weeks ago too.
Hojlund and Muani.
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Ya you’re right. We are excellent at sorting out transfers In time for pre season for our manager to integrate them. My bad.
 
El-Manos said:
Ya you’re right. We are excellent at sorting out transfers In time for pre season for our manager to integrate them. My bad.
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No one is actually excellent at that, mainly because it's not something that is controlled by one party. And we are not different to other clubs.
 
JPRouve said:
No one is actually excellent at that, mainly because it's not something that is controlled by one party. And we are not different to other clubs.
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Obviously not but we definitely do not excel at this compared to some other clubs. It took Casemiro a full month to start a game for us, which is the most recent example I can think of. You can identify targets and sort out deals before the transfer window opens - see liverpool. We rarely do this.
 
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