Swap deal for Fred and Maguire would be good. City used to chase those two.
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Aye, this idea of walking away from negotiations went so poorly with Antony you’d think some would have learned their lesson.
Atalata, PSG & United all clearly see him making huge improvements next season, so why on Earth would Atalanta sell cheaper now if they could instead keep him another year, to get 70m + next season instead.
Thats not what you quoted but ok lets move goal posts.
Again what we write on here is all opinion
Hard to imagine Brentford would sell Toney for less than a guaranteed £64m. In fact I reckon they'd want £75m odd guaranteed, at least.Toney under slightly different circumstances and at a slightly lower price wouldn't be the worst bet if rotating with Rash and another good striker, but, yeah, he doesn't exactly solve our Immediate need for a CF
I mentioned earlier that just maybe he said he didn't want to play for us.
I suppose ten Hag prioritised his system over a prime centre forward. He obviously felt that signing a second number 8 alongside Bruno was pretty non-negotiable.
Its been reported we missed the appointment because we got timezones wrong and that is why he ended up at Salzburg and not United.
Second time around his father is on record saying they didnt feel the club wanted him, that only Ole did and thats partly why they chose Dortmund because the club really wanted him and had a plan for him.
The funny thing is this thread has now become toxic by moaners moaning at anyone who says its overpayment.
They're so busy having a whinge down a rabbit hole they don't realise what they're doing anymore
Yes. I don’t agree with him on that but thats why he gets paid the big bucks. Hopefully it works out.
Personally I think its a mistake, especially when we have Mainoo and Mejbri
€85mill seems extremely excess for an unproven striker with good potential that you are wanting to lead your line right now. I think the issue with this signing is that it may take him a few years to reach his potential, let's say 2 years. United need a player for now to put them in contention for a title challenge. By the team he comes good, half the current starters will be on the wrong side of 30. Bruno, Casemiro, Verane, Shaw are all older than 28 right now. Essentially you'll need a new rebuilt over the next two years whilst still not having reached a point of challenging for the title and I reckon Ten Hag is out the door if he doesn't get to that point within the next two years.
We could afford it if we prioritised a top class forward over Mount who is on more than 250k
Who was dealing with transfers then? Woodward/Judge or Arnold and Murtough? The business about the timezones seems odd for a club the size of us who are used to dealing with timezones.
He's not going to say anything negative is he. He's also right he made us play better than Weghorst, but we wouldn't be spending 72m on a kid if Martial was in any way capable of leading our attack, fitness or ability wise.
Exactly why I said we have a right to complain and ask questions. This was a while ago under Woodward tenure
Don't eat the BS from his camp. Dortmund agreed to have a cheap release clause for him (Around 60 millions), which would allow him to go to a big club easily and earn a mammoth contract next. There is no way we'd accept such a clause in his contract.
Interesting to see how he's constructing his team. I'm a fan of both Mainoo and Mejbri. Ten Hag clearly doesn't feel as if Mejbri is ready and it wasn't something he was prepared to risk, nor sacrifice Mount for. It would appear that he has a different role lined up for Mainoo.
We should have accepted a clause and set it higher like City apparently have
Yes it is. I just hope the CF gamble works because quite clearly goals was the major issue last season
Even then I think I could have lived with Fred as the 8.
Again though my personal bias here because I really do not rate Mason Mount
I've been too busy to keep up but this looks like a great bit of business. We really needed a striker and now we've got one, albeit one more with potential than likely to hit the ground running. Excellent work from Ten Hag and the recruitment team.
See post below, and stop lying.
Opinions can be fact based, and you can back your statements with data, facts etc, that is how quality conversation works. Throwing a random dubious statement, and then having a fit when challenged is not quality conversation, it's quantity spam, and you're getting real tiresome.
Young, blonde, scandinavian striker signed for a Manchester club for a lot of money.
Haaland was 21 when Man City signed him, this chap is 20.
Of course they're going to be compared, however unfair that is on your new guy.
Hope these Haaland comparisons aren't brought up throughout the season. They're really not very similar outside of their looks, name and physique.
Don't forget back then he was still advised by Raiola. You cannot have a big release clause in that guy's client contract, after we were pretty firm about not letting Pogba go every summer.
Who is lying? Quote the whole conversation and you clearly see I responded to the post above with imo. Thats the last Im responding by the way
Stop writing sense mate. Too much sense is never seen on this streets.
This is the best team we've ever had since 2013. In profile, characters, quality, manager, purpose and direction.
We will hit the highest number of points since 2013. Over 82 points. Will it be enough for a title race, hopefully City have an off season so that the progress can have merited reward.
I am not entirely surprised then to be honest. Who did we sign the year he went to Saltzburg and then Dortmund?
I think you are right, after his Dortmund experience he probably wanted to sign for a team that could win trophies. The times he was recommended to us before, I think he was mainly looking for a place where he could get as much playing time as possible, so we were the wrong career move for him at that stage as well. People often act as if all we have to do is want a player and we will sign them, but a lot of talent these days has people who are deliberately planning their next career moves to make sure they get the best chance to develop and it feels like at no stage in Haaland's career have we been the right club for him.
Hopefully he gets shown a bit of patience. There's a lot of pressure on anyone coming in as CF, that's before you add in the sizeable fee and that he's fairly inexperienced. At least it's been done early enough that he gets some time to settle in before the season starts.
We should have let Pogba go but thats another story
We didn't have a main striker when he went Dortmund so playing time would not have been an issue.
I don't disagree (maybe it'd be closer to the 64 in practice with the suspension, but they'd also ask for add-ons) - it was just a hypothetical.
Yeah, plus Raiola's cut (I think there's been a clamping down by the club on paying large agent fees, for better or worse). The release clause was definitely the main sticking point though - again, I think this was a bit of an error down to hubris and not recognizing fully the player's exceptional status plus how much we'd fallen behind the very top sides by that point, and thought so at the time, though wasn't posting here; use him to get the club towards winning trophies, at least cups, and leverage that towards having him extend in return for higher wage but also higher release clause (120, say) and work from there....
I think in both scenarios we would be lacking somewhere. It's just whether signing Osimhen would have papered over the cracks better. Would be nice if Kane was available for free next year.
Initially I was not keen on the Mount signing either. However, I've since lapped up the description of a 'technically better and more productive Fred'. We'll see how that goes.
You think Trossard is better than Rashford? A better prospect than Garnacho?
Not sure on the Salzburg year. Dortmund I think possibly Cavani
Blondes have more fun.
But maybe the league, like I said, there is a lot of planning that goes into these players' careers and maybe his father and the people who advised him told him not to make the step from the Austrian league to the Premier League just yet.
Crimson King gives their opinion (as implied by using "I feel like"), and you respond with an unbacked statement. Once challenged, you come up with "imo" because you got nothing serious to back your statement with (that'd be data, stats, or even EtH himself coming out and sayong that indeed Tomiyasu is better), and then you're having a fit, because I told you to not present your opinion as facts.
Now do us all a favour and stop posting alltogether.
Will all the people complaining and belittling his ability take temporary bans (over next summer transfer window, say) if he scores 20+ this season?
Its quite clear the issue was the club and the fact Oles position was tenuous at best rather than the league. We were a mess at the time, pretty sure had it been now he would chose us
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