A video just to help with balance.
Rasmus Højlund | Signed for United
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A video just to help with balance.
Mount had one year left in his contract. This lad has four mate.
Hes also completely and utterly unproven.
I doubt it. The is very few top strikers out there. The stock is low so the price is high. Brighton about to get 100mil for Caicedo - they can afford to hold out for big money. And Benfica are top tier operators - they got huge sums for Enzo Fernandez, Ruben Diaz, Felix and Darwin Núñez.
He seems a good talent but he has a lot to do before commanding a monster fee.
Not really completely but agree.
If not Greenwood let's promote Joe Hugill just for the number I think. Not a big difference anyway.
Talented but far from finished article, you can see potential- vastly overpriced and nowhere near mentioned fees.
But since United are desperate for striker and can see us forking up to 65 mil with add-ons. Hopefully with ETH guidance he'll develop over the years in which case we're talking about world class number 9.
Last year Danish colleague from Copenhagen mentioned him as a player to keep an eye on and both him and Hojlund being United supporters he wished to see him playing for United one day.
Exciting times ahead!
Or do what City do and buy a load of them in each of your feeder clubs and let them try out in different leagues so they can get progressively harder challenges until they are ready to play for the top team in the hierarchy, or get sold on for a profit. It's one thing to let a couple of your youngsters go on loan to somewhere like Altrincham to get some experience of senior football, but owning 10 clubs in 10 different countries and just using those clubs to buy up all the local talent and hoard 100s of players is just ridiculous.
Chelsea did something similar by signing up a huge number of players and loaning them out so they could stockpile talent. Then rules changed limiting the number of players on loan and the feeder club became the way to stockpile talent and avoid paying the "United tax" when the team at the top of the hierarchy wants to buy talent directly from external clubs.
FFP only seems to apply to some teams, and until the governing bodies do something about it, these clubs will ruin football. Until last season we could laugh at the plastic oil clubs who had won a grand total of zero Champions League trophies. Now City have one, and PSG & Newcastle are still trying, but football clubs have just become "trophy clubs" (if you pardon the pun) of rich Arab states, and it is all about which state has deeper pockets (or in PSGs case, who is not completely mismanaged by the Qataris). This is why I would prefer Ineos, or even the Glazers to stay on, rather than be a plaything of the Qatari state.
Yes and every outlet in Italy and Denmark says they want 60m euros for him
Some said above that it might be us who throw the €100m number around try to look like we did our best but Atalanta got too greedy. Might be true imo. I have no idea anymore what a mess but this deal seems pretty dead either way imo.
Even €60m is a crazy price to pay for him. Its the lack of strikers in the market making us desperate. He has not had his breakthrough season yet where he is a regular and its easy to look world class in Italy, struggle in England. Amad even after so many years is finally looking he could make it in England. I will be surprised if we do anything more than a €30m + €15m add ons deal.
He was a regular last season by the way.
Unfortunately supply and demand will effect market price, the fact there is a lack of strikers in the market will mean strikers will be more expensive.
I think if we can get him for 50m euros including addons we've done well in this market
Danish Lukaku without all the end product of Lukaku at the same age, who was scoring 2-3x the number of goals then in a harder league.
I do think we need to keep a bit of perspective.
He looks a good prospect, but that's what he is, a prospect.
Over £50m pounds and we are getting the pants pulled down.
That's just lazy. That video says nothing, and really, you could make a compilation of Haaland with shit touches too.
Haaland does have a shit touch ...
Edit: I just watched the clip. He'd got murdered here imo if that's what he could do in the Serie A.
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Should we be looking at a 1 year loan for Joao Felix instead? It would allow some time to get finances in order and he's clearly still out of favour at Atletico.
Well, no, not necessarily. It seems that you're implying that every single PL defender is better and stronger than defenders in Serie A, which is not the case.
Secondly, there's been plenty of examples of strikers with a shit touch who do just fine in PL, and even great in some cases.
It's not the touch but the strength mate. Haaland has a shit touch but he's a freak.
With all due respect to the Serie A even Lukaku could do the defenders there. And we all know how he did here with us. I was tearing my hair out watching that donkey loosing ball after ball back then.
Not a leader of the line type striker and I'm being generous in my use of the term striker. We shouldn't be going anywhere near him.
He's like Sancho looks fancy but no substance.
Haaland doesn't have a shit touch, it's not even close to being shit.
I get that that is ‘highlights’ to support a narrative, but he looks clumsy as feck here.
We don’t need a project, we need a finished proven striker. If they are going to insist on £85m we should look elsewhere. It’s only a small jump to a fee that might make Levy reconsider, or could land us a RKM, a Vlahovan Abraham or the like.
I’m still not sure why we weren’t in for free transfers like Thuram. Would have taken the pressure off and we could have been more selective in our search for a top striker.
At this rate Marcus will be doing it all on his own again next term. Somebody get on the blower and check what Wout is doing…..
Not a bad idea, super talented but is he a 9? More of a false 9 or 10 for me.
This will be done 100% after we lose our first 3 games. Wolves at home, Spurs away and Forest at home.
Then we get him and he starts against Arsenal away and scores a hat trick and becomes an instant legend.
Ends the season with 3 goals.
Then we get him and he starts against Arsenal away and scores a hat trick and becomes an instant legend.
Ends the season with 3 goals.
What''re they asking for Gonsalo Ramos?
This will be done 100% after we lose our first 3 games. Wolves at home, Spurs away and Forest at home.
Then we get him and he starts against Arsenal away and scores a hat trick and becomes an instant legend.
Ends the season with 3 goals.
You've got some imagination...heat stroke?
This video makes Lukaku look like Berbatov in comparison. He's rather raw to be honest.
Lukaku obliterated defenders at times in PL as well, not just Serie A. And he did okay in terms of scoring goals, but he had an awful touch in general. Højlund doesn't, but it's not like every striker control the ball flawlessly every time. It's important to remember they're under immense pressure, and even the likes of Agüero had shit touches occasionally. You could make a compilation of any striker in the world and his bad touches.
I take offense to that, Zaafi. I watched the video link of Rasmus' poor play. Then watched highlights of his great plays and goals. Then refreshed my memory with video of Lukaku from his West Brom and Everton days. And then compared their stats at around the same age.
That was a good 45 minute rabbit hole before I decided to make the statement. You may disagree with it, which is fine. But it wasn't a lazy comparison by any means.
And to be clear I'm not saying he's a bad player, heck, neither is Lukaku. But the talent is raw and we've seen what 80m on raw talents gets you. That's before we even consider whether he's really that good a fit for ETHs football and whether he can develop into it. I actually think if Lukaku joined a side coached by ETH at 20 he'd be a vastly superior player for having been forced to improve his weak areas (ie donkey touch )...Nordic yeti says as much now about how Peps forcing him to be less of a donkey too.
This video makes him look like a shit Nunez, and Nunez is shocking.
All the striking options we've been linked with this summer are underwhelming. Is there not some £30m lad in Brazil or Argentina that's worth a punt? Doesn't even need to be a goalscorer, just does a load of running and annoys defenders would be a great start.
So we should be after a south American Paul dickov ?
Again it's not about the touch mate. Imo he'd be sent flying to the stand if he comes here. Morata got bullied so much that I actually felt bad for him. The same fate would await Hojlund here I'm afraid.
Anyway this deal seems pretty dead atm so we should leave things here and come back later I think.
Worked for City before they signed better players.
We need forwards, we won't get the forward we want with the budget we have. Something has to give.
I'd argue Alexander Isak and Højlund are equal in terms of strength, and Højlund is faster than him. Newcastle took a gamble on Isak, and he did okay. It's not that black and white for strikers in the PL.
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We need goals. Weghorts did plenty of what you describe and that didnt really help us. We need someone who will be there in the box at the right time and place. Sadly the striker market is extremely expensive at the moment and we cant really pay. The decision to blow silly money on Antony last season is looking worse by the day.
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