[Oranges038]

Uhm, he played a little less than 1900 minutes (roughly 20 full matches) and scored 10. He was 19 and their second best goal scorer after Lookman. But don’t let facts interfere with your fairytale

On average he's a 1 in 2 striker. He averages less than 1 shot on target per game and usually get less than 2 shots on target per game and 3 shot creating actions. That's over his whole career. His conversion rate last season was one of the best in the league.

If you look at it from that point of view, of he could get more chances, can he score more goals? The answer is probably yes.

It's obvious he needs to improve his positioning and movement. But he's young and still learning, being first choice striker at Utd right now, isn't the best environment for a player to develop. He's learning on the job, RVN didn't join Utd until he was 24/25, Andy Cole, Dwight Yorke all around their mid 20s. So, he has a lot of added pressure on his shoulders.

He also needs to have players around him who will provide the chances, Utd's wingers just aren't good enough at chance creation and more often than not make poor decisions in and around the box.

 

[Lyng]

Well that’s exactly what you’ve done.

Yes told you that you clearly haven't. He was their main channel runner when there.

 

[Kopral Jono]

I like Hojlund and obviously he has all the right tools to succeed but for whatever reason in games he very rarely applies himself to be in a position or situation of danger to the opponent -- either to score or create goalscoring opportunities for others.

It will be very interesting to see how he develops under Amorim but I honestly do think it's make-or-break for him. I could see him play second-fiddle come next season or even leave the club outright next summer if things don't work out as planned.

 

[gajender]

I like Hojlund and obviously he has all the right tools to succeed but for whatever reason in games he very rarely applies himself to be in a position or situation of danger to the opponent -- either to score or create goalscoring opportunities for others.

It will be very interesting to see how he develops under Amorim but I honestly do think it's make-or-break for him. I could see him play second-fiddle come next season or even leave the club outright next summer if things don't work out as planned.

And that the way it should be , he has more than half the season Under new coach to show whether he belongs here or not .

I am fairly confident he will thrive .

 

[Kopral Jono]

And that the way it should be , he has more than half the season Under new coach to show whether he belongs here or not .

I am fairly confident he will thrive .

I trust my eyes, not stats, when I judge players and I rarely get it wrong (called both Depay and Schneiderlin waste-of-space fraudsters after a few games) and I also think the likelihood of him thriving over failing under Amorim is pretty high.

 

[Borys]

Starting against Spain today, I thought he was 2nd choice striker for Denmark? Anyway, interesting how it goes, he might be getting chances to run in behind the defense.

 

[CannibalSpectre]

A bad manager and low scoring overall from the forwards? Yes

What makes Brian Riemer a bad manager?

 

[Lyng]

What makes Brian Riemer a bad manager?

Playing Eriksen on the wing for starters.

That having been said Rasmus has regressed so absurdly under Ten Hag that I am beginning to doubt it can be salvaged. Either Amorim gets him firing like he did Gyokeres or we need to get a new first striker in the summer.

 

[CannibalSpectre]

Playing Eriksen on the wing for starters.

That having been said Rasmus has regressed so absurdly under Ten Hag that I am beginning to doubt it can be salvaged. Either Amorim gets him firing like he did Gyokeres or we need to get a new first striker in the summer.

If Amorim can't get him going in the next few weeks the club should begin seriously looking at options in January. It could make a huge difference for this season

Denmark are still impressive under Reimer and have continued their form from Kasper Hjulmand

 

[Lyng]

If Amorim can't get him going in the next few weeks the club should begin seriously looking at options in January. It could make a huge difference for this season

Yeah I am inclined to agree. I am Højlunds biggest defender and even I am losing hope

 

[Redplane]

If Amorim can't get him going in the next few weeks the club should begin seriously looking at options in January. It could make a huge difference for this season

We need someone regardless. A club of this stature should never be without a proven goal scorer up front either as a starter or off the bench.

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

Yeah I am inclined to agree. I am Højlunds biggest defender and even I am losing hope

His biggest issue is that he just hardly ever even impacts games. Whether it's through running, hold up play, dribbling, creating, shooting, etc. there are far too many full appearances where the only time you ever notice him is when he gets called for a foul for wrestling a CB.

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

We need someone regardless. A club of this stature should never be without a proven goal scorer up front either as a starter or off the bench.

We need at least two top attackers to be brought in if we are honest. A striker and LW preferably.

I'm on my knees for us to go all in on Kvara personally.

 

[CannibalSpectre]

We need someone regardless. A club of this stature should never be without a proven goal scorer up front either as a starter or off the bench.

I don't disagree, the club should be looking to fix this issue as we speak.

 

[JJ12]

His biggest issue is that he just hardly ever even impacts games. Whether it's through running, hold up play, dribbling, creating, shooting, etc. there are far too many full appearances where the only time you ever notice him is when he gets called for a foul for wrestling a CB.

He's usually the one getting fouled but the point stands

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

He's usually the one getting fouled but the point stands

Yeah either way just unproductive really if that's all your doing as someone that you want spearheading the attack

 

[Lyng]

Yeah either way just unproductive really if that's all your doing as someone that you want spearheading the attack

And it's so weird because he really didn't play like that at all before joining us which is why I put alot of blame on the coaching.

 

[JJ12]

Yeah either way just unproductive really if that's all your doing as someone that you want spearheading the attack

It's funny because he played really well against Brentford (I think) and it was evident and he mentioned that he strapped wrestling the defenders. Since then that's all he's done.

He clearly has physical talent and finishing ability but it is getting worrying

 

[Fortitude]

And it's so weird because he really didn't play like that at all before joining us which is why I put alot of blame on the coaching.

I think that plays a big part, but Hojlund's conceptualisation of the PL - and what he thinks is required to survive in it - may also be getting in the way.

If you think this is a rough and tumble league and you need to be a gladiator to survive in it, or even that it's the product it used to be, and come in like a bat out of hell, determined to fight and brawl because you think that's how you have to be, it's going to play its hand in how you approach things.

After Hojlund, I wonder who is the most scrappy CF in the league currently and how much they get embroiled in nonsense affairs compared to the young Dane. I don't watch anywhere near as much footy as I used to so maybe someone else has the answer to the question, but I'd hazard a guess that Hojlund's amount is inordinate compared to the next one down. Can't recall the last forward doing what Hojlund does - he's becoming a meme for wrestling CB's and it's the first thing that comes to mind when thinking about his game. It's a very odd case - if a striker isn't doing well, they can usually be scrutinised for just being bad, rather than having a preoccupation with something that has very little to do with being a CF. Picking fights with CB's sometimes 40 yards away from goal is.... quite something... I think that's where it becomes clear it isn't instruction because it has no value to the team or the player and is just an extreme waste of energy, plus he does the same with his country.

He rarely even attempts to play clean and clear of his CB's despite it being a much better option for his attributes. The guy has a lot more pace and running power than he has strength and robustness, so what the hell is he doing nullifying his own game so often?

 

[AarhusUnited]

Yesterday was Brian Riemers first game as "manager" for Denmark, so anyone blaming him is just stupid. Denmark again looked much better witout Højlund, as we have done all 2024.. Spain was just a class or two better than Denmark, and it was not only Højlund who looked bad.

 

[CannibalSpectre]

Yesterday was Brian Riemers first game as "manager" for Denmark, so anyone blaming him is just stupid. Denmark again looked much better witout Højlund, as we have done all 2024.. Spain was just a class or two better than Denmark, and it was not only Højlund who looked bad.

I watched the match delayed and Hojlund offered the least threat among the Danish attackers. Eriksen looked more lively than he did in the box. It's really a strange case

 

[AarhusUnited]

I watched the match delayed and Hojlund offered the least threat among the Danish attackers. Eriksen looked more lively than he did in the box. It's really a strange case

It has been like that long.. and with the same problems as with United.. I think the pressure of playing for United is to big for him, and it really is a scandal that he was left to be our only and main striker..

 

[Lyng]

Yesterday was Brian Riemers first game as "manager" for Denmark, so anyone blaming him is just stupid. Denmark again looked much better witout Højlund, as we have done all 2024.. Spain was just a class or two better than Denmark, and it was not only Højlund who looked bad.

Riemer is shite. Eriksen on the wing instead of just starting Isaksen. Højlund was shite but so where the tactics.

 

[Andycoleno9]

If Amorim can't get him going in the next few weeks the club should begin seriously looking at options in January. It could make a huge difference for this season

Denmark are still impressive under Reimer and have continued their form from Kasper Hjulmand

Club need starting striker. No point wasting money in January on more depth. Amorim should work with what he has and then next summer starting no9 should be absolute priority.

 

[Grand Vizier]

Yesterday was Brian Riemers first game as "manager" for Denmark, so anyone blaming him is just stupid. Denmark again looked much better witout Højlund, as we have done all 2024.. Spain was just a class or two better than Denmark, and it was not only Højlund who looked bad.

Your agenda is getting ridiculous. The reason you looked better was because of Isaksen coming on, not Højlund going off. I watched the full game myself. Dolberg did nothing when coming on, so it was Isaken who made the difference, and it would have been the exact same whether Højlund or Dolberg played.

 

[AarhusUnited]

Your agenda is getting ridiculous. The reason you looked better was because of Isaksen coming on, not Højlund going off. I watched the full game myself. Dolberg did nothing when coming on, so it was Isaken who made the difference, and it would have been the exact same whether Højlund or Dolberg played.

We played better in the second half with Isaksen coming on yes, but the best 10-15 min was when Højlund came off, not because he came off, but we still played better.. And stop wuth the agenda BS, just because you dont think Højlund is good enough doesnt mean you have an agenda,..

 

[Grand Vizier]

We played better in the second half with Isaksen coming on yes, but the best 10-15 min was when Højlund came off, not because he came off, but we still played better.. And stop wuth the agenda BS, just because you dont think Højlund is good enough doesnt mean you have an agenda,..

You're right, it doesn't. I don't think he is good enough either, but to imply they played better because he came off kind of is. If that's not what you were trying to say, why would you even bring it up?

 

[jamesjimmybyrondean]

I think that plays a big part, but Hojlund's conceptualisation of the PL - and what he thinks is required to survive in it - may also be getting in the way.

If you think this is a rough and tumble league and you need to be a gladiator to survive in it, or even that it's the product it used to be, and come in like a bat out of hell, determined to fight and brawl because you think that's how you have to be, it's going to play its hand in how you approach things.

After Hojlund, I wonder who is the most scrappy CF in the league currently and how much they get embroiled in nonsense affairs compared to the young Dane. I don't watch anywhere near as much footy as I used to so maybe someone else has the answer to the question, but I'd hazard a guess that Hojlund's amount is inordinate compared to the next one down. Can't recall the last forward doing what Hojlund does - he's becoming a meme for wrestling CB's and it's the first thing that comes to mind when thinking about his game. It's a very odd case - if a striker isn't doing well, they can usually be scrutinised for just being bad, rather than having a preoccupation with something that has very little to do with being a CF. Picking fights with CB's sometimes 40 yards away from goal is.... quite something... I think that's where it becomes clear it isn't instruction because it has no value to the team or the player and is just an extreme waste of energy, plus he does the same with his country.

He rarely even attempts to play clean and clear of his CB's despite it being a much better option for his attributes. The guy has a lot more pace and running power than he has strength and robustness, so what the hell is he doing nullifying his own game so often?

Sheesh. Nail on the head

 

[Mike Smalling]

Not exactly the best game to judge him on, but he wasn't very good once again. Many parallels to a lot of United games, where the other forwards don't particularly play well either, but it's not an excuse. Højlund needs to be able to find a way to get himself more involved in the games. Even when he does get on the ball, it often doesn't got very well.

Hoping Amorim can utilize him better, but there are clearly fundamental problems beyond our tactical setup.

 

[Schmeichels pinky]

Not exactly the best game to judge him on, but he wasn't very good once again. Many parallels to a lot of United games, where the other forwards don't particularly play well either, but it's not an excuse. Højlund needs to be able to find a way to get himself more involved in the games. Even when he does get on the ball, it often doesn't got very well.

Hoping Amorim can utilize him better, but there are clearly fundamental problems beyond our tactical setup.

Hard to say. He’s been playing in a setup not suited to him or any pacy cf and so may well have gotten more and more confused about where to run etc. Will be so interesting to see him under Amorim

 

[Andycoleno9]

According to excuses here, strikers who play in weaker teams should not score goals at all. I don't know how Wood, Wissa, Welbeck or Delap do it.

 

[Schmeichels pinky]

According to excuses here, strikers who play in weaker teams should not score goals at all. I don't know how Wood, Wissa, Welbeck or Delap do it.

According to pitchforks in here Hojlund is a worse footballer than a lamppost. Don’t know how he managed to score at all last season.

 

[Mike Smalling]

Most objective observers should be able to recognize that Højlund is both not good enough individually right now, and that he is being further hampered by playing in a side that creates very few chances. It's a mix of both that results in him having so few shots this year. Whether he can come good is anyone's guess. In my opinion, it's not outrageous to suggest he won't ever be good enough for United - and as a Dane, I want to succeed at this level as much as anyone. Increasingly I unfortunately don't see it.

 

[DWelbz19]

After Hojlund, I wonder who is the most scrappy CF in the league currently and how much they get embroiled in nonsense affairs compared to the young Dane. I don't watch anywhere near as much footy as I used to so maybe someone else has the answer to the question, but I'd hazard a guess that Hojlund's amount is inordinate compared to the next one down. Can't recall the last forward doing what Hojlund does - he's becoming a meme for wrestling CB's and it's the first thing that comes to mind when thinking about his game. It's a very odd case - if a striker isn't doing well, they can usually be scrutinised for just being bad, rather than having a preoccupation with something that has very little to do with being a CF. Picking fights with CB's sometimes 40 yards away from goal is.... quite something... I think that's where it becomes clear it isn't instruction because it has no value to the team or the player and is just an extreme waste of energy, plus he does the same with his country.

Hilariously (or scarily) the one player who came to my mind when reading this — Troy Deeney.

 

[Cathy Ferguson]

His biggest issue is that he just hardly ever even impacts games. Whether it's through running, hold up play, dribbling, creating, shooting, etc. there are far too many full appearances where the only time you ever notice him is when he gets called for a foul

At best he will be a useful squad player for us. I cannot see him being good enough to be a starting player. The technical ability just is not there. People seem to rate him because he is hard working.

 

[Borys]

At best he will be a useful squad player for us. I cannot see him being good enough to be a starting player. The technical ability just is not there. People seem to rate him because he is hard working.

More like people still have hope because he's young. I don't see his "hard work" doing much for us. He doesn't even seem to be involved defensively.

 

[Grand Vizier]

According to excuses here, strikers who play in weaker teams should not score goals at all. I don't know how Wood, Wissa, Welbeck or Delap do it.

Your examples are 30 year old PL experienced strikers and a young lad that have scored fewer goals than Højlund? Not only that, you include "weaker" teams that are all above us on the table

 

[Andycoleno9]

Your examples are 30 year old PL experienced strikers and a young lad that have scored fewer goals than Højlund? Not only that, you include "weaker" teams that are all above us on the table

That is some level of mental gymnastics, i give you that.

 

[Grand Vizier]

That is some level of mental gymnatics, i give you that.

I don't think you know what that means.

 

[Andycoleno9]

According to pitchforks in here Hojlund is a worse footballer than a lamppost. Don’t know how he managed to score at all last season.

And i keep saying that truth is in the middle. He is not a bad striker (i am happy having him as backup) but he is not material (and doesn't have potential) to be our starting no9. He doesn't have tools to be a striker who makes difference.
I am sorry but imo, top club which has ambition for highest prizes just must have class striker who makes difference on the pitch. That is why i try to avoid using his numbers. I judge him by his impact on the pitch. Was there any game where he "killed it" and was constant threat to opposition defence?

I repeat; when i talk about Hojlund i talk about Hojlund, first choice Man Utd striker. Not in the way "Hojlund is shit and must be sold".