So we can’t sign new players without a permanent manager in place but we can extend contracts? Sounds about right.
Rashford - New contract or sell?
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He could. We should just let him rot in the bench. Not like thats not good for the team as well.
We have to draw a line.
Quite surprised by the poll result.. if we did sell him what fee would people be happy with?
There’s certainly still a player there and being only 24 there’s still plenty of time before he peaks.
There’s certainly still a player there and being only 24 there’s still plenty of time before he peaks.
He's an incredibly marketable player and he is still at an age where another club would likely pay big money for his "Talent" even though in reality we all know he's not top class.
If we can get good money, move him on.
If we can get good money, move him on.
I'd accept nothing less than 70 million at a push i'd take a number closer to 60 but that's pushing it. It should be noted though if his current trajectory holds that asking price will only decrease with time.
Given we get a good price for him, I'd move him on.
The same goes for Shaw.
We can't keep giving underperforming players more and more money while showing signs of developing or being instrumental for our team.
I know that someone like Rashford has the potential to be one of the best english players of his generation, but right now Elanga is far more valuable to us on the field. Which should be what matters. There will always be other players coming through or brought in.
If we extend their contracts, we will indirectly force the next manager to give them a big role in the team.
We are at a crossroad. It's time to focus on the football side of things, and not be scared to sell any member of the squad.
The same goes for Shaw.
We can't keep giving underperforming players more and more money while showing signs of developing or being instrumental for our team.
I know that someone like Rashford has the potential to be one of the best english players of his generation, but right now Elanga is far more valuable to us on the field. Which should be what matters. There will always be other players coming through or brought in.
If we extend their contracts, we will indirectly force the next manager to give them a big role in the team.
We are at a crossroad. It's time to focus on the football side of things, and not be scared to sell any member of the squad.
I have my doubts if he's an incredibly marketable player outside of United. He is for us because he's "one of our own" but if he goes to Newcastle for example in what way would he be marketable? I don't think feeding kids or writing children's books would sell his shirt to fanatical Geordies. To be marketable he would have to go to a (potentially) big club with a global fan base. How many of those do you think would sign him?
I still think there is a player there. He seems very low on confidence now though.
English, Feeding the kids, good looking, all over social media, a main player on the likes of Fifa etc. He would be very very marketable for somebody like Newcastle IMO. They'd 100% have him on all their posters and stuff.
Trigger his extension and give him till next summer to prove he deserves a new contract. If in Summer 2023 we think he's not worthy, sell.
Well, if we do that then he will only have one year left then he has power to dictate or even refuse to sign a new deal and leaving for free like Lingard. Either sell now when there is value or give him new contract. Unless if we are okay with player dictates this again.
Lingard is a 75k-80k pw player. Rashford is a 200k player pw.
Rashford will struggle to find anyone who would pay him better money.
Problem with this he will be on even more obscene wages and even harder to move on. There is a reason we can never get rid of our deadwood and renewing and rewarding under performing players with huge wages is a massive part of that.
No. Triggering extension does not increase wages.
Get rid; I hope. He's done. Vastly overrated.
Rangnick or Rashford?
Stupid poll as there is no need to do either
He will be a United player next season
He will be a United player next season
If we want top dollar (if that's possible at the moment) selling this season is probably the optimal play. The vast majority want shot of him, almost 6:1.
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Its just not about Rangnick. It was LVG then Jose then Ole. His PR team blames everyone for Rashford bad form
See you later Rashy.
This ain’t Jay Z make another Hove punchlines. Your easily replaced.
For me, the bigger question is - if we sign a player who plays to the ability of peak rashford - lets not forget he was worlds most mvp on transfermarkt not that long ago and how good he is on top form. This isnt FIFA football, every effort needs to be made to get him back on track. We have so many things to sort in this team without needing to shell out £80m on a winger
Transfermarkt is a joke, no actual value to any of it.
Rashfords peak wasn't that great. You gotta weigh up the risk reward.
you need an £80m winger to replace him. Thats the bottom line. Better to get him back on form. His peak was 20-30 goal contributions. Thats very good
He's so off the boil at the moment, that we won't get much for him to be honest. It's probably more worthwhile to build him back up, fix the problem and get him playing again. He is only 24 and not even reached his peak yet. Although, it is so rare to see a good player just fall apart before reaching his prime and we may never see him reach his potential. I suppose it is up to him if he wants to be a footballer again. You don't often see a players who were better at 18/20 than they are at 24. He just needs to find that hunger and ambition he had before. I believe that this is a mental issue, more than anything else.
You really don't need a £80m player to replace him. City and Liverpool have bought many wide players better for a lot less. At the moment we could promote a youth player to do better.
So what are the rules now with Brexit? How many players in the squad have to be british or trained within the UK?
so as it stands, come july when our loans come in:
sancho
Ronaldo
Rashford
Martial
shoretire
Elanga
Pellistri
You are saying you would want to weaken that set of options and gamble on a cheap wing option to step it up?
He will because we won't have a single striker on the books at this rate what with who's leaving
He'll get his chance under the next manager. Value might plummet further though.I like Rashford but he's another player that I'm just tired of the media circus around surrounding them. Just getting fed up of hearing about him which is why if I wouldn't be too bothered if he left. Hopefully he turns it around though.
Hard to continue to back him when these stories are coming out on a daily basis whilst he’s playing so poorly. I wouldn’t sell him but he’s not up for the fight and a new manager can’t change that he will eventually have to go.
Sell him to Newcastle with Shaw, Martial and Maguire
Yes I noticed and it's a shame so many are ready to dump a homegrown hero after an injury hit period of poor form
Regardless of this poll, he'll be here next season
Personally I find it hard to believe that the club is even considering a new contract. Time for United to abandon its absurd sentimentality. Let him go.
It’s not a ‘poor form’ issue but one of attitude: Rashford doesn’t even try, doesn’t concentrate on playing himself back into form by concentrating on the basics, etc. He reeks of disinterest. We should return that, I’m afraid.
Of what on-field heroics do you speak?
I am saying freeing up the wages could mean we can buy more than we can with him.
Club have let better players than Rashford go. We used to care about winning back then.
we pay him a reported 10.4 million. Its peanuts really when you are talking about turning that into other wages and transfer fees.
Plus whoever comes in isnt going to play for free. And if he goes we have to replace his position as well because we will be short. Its not like if we sold Phil Jones and Tuanzabe because we are stocked at CB anyway so there are funds to reinvest in other areas whilst retaining squad depth.
Most likely, yes. Fans opinion don't really matter much to how the Club run.
I don't want him gone because I want to give him a chance under a proper manager -
But since we bought Sancho his positioning is much less available and in jeopardy; so I don't really think it's impossible that he leaves us I the future either.
But since we bought Sancho his positioning is much less available and in jeopardy; so I don't really think it's impossible that he leaves us I the future either.
Is his contract up the end of next season or the one after that? If its the latter, we should just hold off for the season, and see if he improves next season before deciding.
Lee Sharp was always a lovely crosser of a ball.
Rashford's quicker and more professional than Sharp was but as a footballer, Sharp was not limited. More ability than Marcus.
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