Rashford - New contract or sell?

What to do with Marcus Rashford...

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lex talionis said:
If the Glazers are happy for United to remain nothing more than a contender for fourth place in the PL then from their point of view it makes sense to keep Rashford. But from our point view, which is to say, seeing us become competitive again for the PL and CL trophies, we should look to unload Rashford, the details of which are critical but none of us are in a position to know how to pull that off.

What makes, or made, Marcus Rashford unique as a special player was his pace. He's not a striker and he's not a winger. He's ineffective through the center and on the right and only marginally effective on the left on his best day. He doesn't track back and he has no short passing game whatsover. He does have a powerful shot but his ability to get clear for a shot has almost vanished.

Let's put it this way: If United were so wealthy that we could afford to pay Mata 100k/week, Van De Beek 100k/week, Lingard 125k/week and Martial 250/week -- all useless players -- which sums up to (if my calculations are correct) 575k/week, after we get rid of them (I actually like VDB but he appears to have no future at OT and after how we've treated him he needs to leave) we can afford to keep Rashford on a super sub for 200-225k/week. And if he really thinks he can haul in 400k/week at a club like Newcastle... :lol:
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Marcus Rashford will never be sold by Manchester United, there, I've said it. They need him for PR reasons (now more than ever because of the other striker at the club). We all know Man Utd. owners care more about 'the brand' than actually winning stuff, hence my statement above.

lex talionis said:
Let's put it this way: If United were so wealthy that we could afford to pay Mata 100k/week, Van De Beek 100k/week, Lingard 125k/week and Martial 250/week...
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Don't forget SAF on £75k a week.

This is one thing I can never get my head around and it's something I think only Man Utd. do: keep an ex-manager on the payroll - which is possibly why he feels he can still get involved in the decision making - eg Ronaldo. Its not as if he wasn't badly rewarded for his work between '86 and 2014, he was, at the end, by far the highest paid manager in the league. Which is probably why you will never hear him say a bad thing about the Glazers.
 
Hammondo said:
For a player whos playing incredibly poor, on the last year of his contract, and will be asking for high wages?

I'm not so sure.
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If utd sell him for 30 million I bet there will be loads of clubs in for him. 1 different season doesn't put him in that bracket .
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
My only question would be, what if, like De Gea, Rashford was to return to his best form next season?

At the moment, it's a big if, but who's to say a new manager and new season won't give him a new lease of life?

That being said, I look at the impact Lingard had at West Ham. Maybe he just needs a new start.

I guess time will tell.
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I keep hearing and reading people suggesting giving him one last chance as he might return to his best form, his best form wasn't great. He just had moments. A player on 200k per week can not just be a moments player.
 
Pickle85 said:
Agreed. I find it weird that this pisses people off to the degree it has. Player not getting played uses the media to say he wants away...shocker. In reality it happens fairly regularly at almost every club. The strength of reaction is mostly down to it being Rashford.
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Yeah I think people have just decided Rashford is basically a villain. Not only is he playing badly but he has a "bad attitude" which is completely unverifiable.
 
I'll probably get shot down for this, but the problem with Rashfords 'blip' in form, is I never actually thought he was that fantastic anyway, I just remember never really been that convinced with him, a bit of an enigma maybe, and not the player his reputation suggests.

I'm not bothered about selling him, but I'm also not sure it's worth all effort with him either.
 
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Dont get these give him one more season personally.

He is in his 7th season at the club now and four managers have managed him. Only Ole seemed to be certain in time that he is a left winger not a striker, the others didnt seem sure either way.

He isnt a striker, his goals record is decent for someone who has played out wide often, but it isnt excellent and he only seemed to nail down the left wign role to a degree when Ole decided Martial was a striker not a left winger. I think Ole got both things right which is surprising when he is the worst coach. But he hasnt nailed it down in terms of being consistently excellent for any period of time and hasnt been more than "good" really bar the odd spells in seven seasons, he is 24 now, not a youngster.

The truth is, he isnt a striker and there are several better wide players in Englad and on teh continent, irrespective of his awful form. We also have Sancho and Elanaga as left sided options, so I dont see the value Rashford has. That with his contract starting to wind down.....


Why an earth would we offer him a new contract when he has been so poor for so long, surely we have learned that is an error for some we have given to players actually far less worthy than Rashford the last few season.

Not only that, if he is thinking over his options from lack of game time...that is embarrassing for one and a player not 100% commited to the cause at this club as we would presume being local.

100% we should be looking to sell Rashford this summer while he holds value
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
I'll probably get shot down for this, but the problem with Rashfords 'blip' in form, is I never actually thought he was that fantastic anyway, I just remember never really been that convinced with him overall, but perhaps I'm just been harsh given how bad he's been recently.

I'm not bothered about selling him, but I'm also not sure it's worth all effort with him either.
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YOu are certainly not alone there
 
The Rashford threads have been very lively the last few days (all three of them).

Newsflash: He's not being sold.
 
Tyrion said:
Yeah I think people have just decided Rashford is basically a villain. Not only is he playing badly but he has a "bad attitude" which is completely unverifiable.
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If you don't make an effort on the pitch match after match then it IS bad attitude. This you can see if you watch United play.
 
Nou_Camp99 said:
The Rashford threads have been very lively the last few days (all three of them).

Newsflash: He's not being sold.
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That's the problem with this club and why we don't win anything. Players can just walk around the pitch and not get pulled up and can do whatever they want. The players who don't make an effort should be sold. Rashford, Martial the lot.
 
Bloody brilliant player on his day. The problem is, I think, his last good day was a few years ago now. Based on number of appearances (injuries) and performances in the last 2 years I think he should stay as a squad player but get paid a lot less less. No way his ego would have that. Maybe he can rejuvenate his career a main man up front somewhere else. I don't see it happening at United. Pay cut or cash in I say.
 
Hughie77 said:
If utd sell him for 30 million I bet there will be loads of clubs in for him. 1 different season doesn't put him in that bracket .
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Either that, or he reject to be sold, then just leave for free.
 
Foxbatt said:
If you don't make an effort on the pitch match after match then it IS bad attitude. This you can see if you watch United play.
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I don't think he puts in noticeably less effort than anyone else really. It's normally just bad passes and decisions.
 
Tyrion said:
I don't think he puts in noticeably less effort than anyone else really. It's normally just bad passes and decisions.
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Sorry to say that it's not true. Others at least make an effort to try to stop the opposition or run.
Rashford don't do that. He doesn't track back and neither does he attack when he doesn't have the ball. In all honesty he just couldn't be arsed.
 
Foxbatt said:
Sorry to say that it's not true. Others at least make an effort to try to stop the opposition or run.
Rashford don't do that. He doesn't track back and neither does he attack when he doesn't have the ball. In all honesty he just couldn't be arsed.
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When he came on against City, he was the only one still bothering to run.
 
Tyrion said:
I don't think he puts in noticeably less effort than anyone else really. It's normally just bad passes and decisions.
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I almost put my remote through the TV when I watched him and Lingard stroll around the pitch against City. Never in life have I seen 2 more despicable performances from anyone in a United shirt.
 
Tyrion said:
Pretty much. Granted, I stopped caring near the end of the match but when he first came on, he was running after the ball.
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It's not at the end of the match. Around the 73rd minute mark was when he was standing on the centre line when we pressed and he was the 5th United player further forward and when they attacked from his side he never made a move and when DeGea made the save he was our furthest forward player. It showed that he didn't move move than 10 feet during the whole thing.
 
Isotope said:
Either that, or he reject to be sold, then just leave for free.
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If that happens he stays till his contract runs out. Then he will have to improve as he's at a crucial age for a footballer.
 
He was primarily a winger as a youth player? He is right footed-why has he not put any work into learning how to cross? Even limited players like Gary Neville and Lee Sharp worked hard in training and learned how to put a cross in. Yes I know he scores goals, but why does he look so lost on the right-wing when he is right footed?

And tracking back?
 
Are Newcastle going to bail us out by throwing us 200m to clear a few of our lads out? :wenger:
 
JebelSherif said:
Marcus Rashford will never be sold by Manchester United, there, I've said it. They need him for PR reasons (now more than ever because of the other striker at the club). We all know Man Utd. owners care more about 'the brand' than actually winning stuff, hence my statement above.



Don't forget SAF on £75k a week.

This is one thing I can never get my head around and it's something I think only Man Utd. do: keep an ex-manager on the payroll - which is possibly why he feels he can still get involved in the decision making - eg Ronaldo. Its not as if he wasn't badly rewarded for his work between '86 and 2014, he was, at the end, by far the highest paid manager in the league. Which is probably why you will never hear him say a bad thing about the Glazers.
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I had no idea but am not that surprised that Ferguson is still on the payroll. But we shouldn't be bothered by that. He got paid very well during his managing days, but his contribution to the club is more than merely immense. His wages don't concern me, but we need to make sure he's not involved in appointing managers and the like.

As for Rashford, he can still be a useful player for us IMO. But that's my opinion only, which matters not one whit...or one shit, as the case may be. I put it that way because what does matter is the opinion of the new manager and I would hope that the board don't get conned into signing massive new contracts before our new manager comes in. If it is Ten Hag and he concludes that he has no use for Rashford then I don't want Rashford either. I don't want to see sign players that the managers doesn't rate, as was the case with Ole and Donny. Whether we believe Ole was right to regard Donny as useless or not, we should hold off on all new contract talks -- and that would include Pogba, if for whatever he decides he wants to remain at OT after all -- until we've sorted out the manager.
 
Nou_Camp99 said:
The Rashford threads have been very lively the last few days (all three of them).

Newsflash: He's not being sold.
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Think you misunderstood the point of the thread which was to gauge fan opinion on whether Rashford deserves a new contract or selling him would be more beneficial.
The latter has overwhelmingly got more support (6:1).
 
Tyrion said:
Pretty much. Granted, I stopped caring near the end of the match but when he first came on, he was running after the ball.
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It was deceptive because when he first came on against City he sprinted to close down Ederson a couple of times.

But as far as the actual team press went he just moped around and didn't take part at all. As that Carragher clip showed.
 
Nou_Camp99 said:
The Rashford threads have been very lively the last few days (all three of them).

Newsflash: He's not being sold.
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And that is why we will continue to be in the shitter.

Rashford epitomizes everything that is wrong with the club.
 
Quagmire Maguire said:
I keep hearing and reading people suggesting giving him one last chance as he might return to his best form, his best form wasn't great. He just had moments. A player on 200k per week can not just be a moments player.
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I'd disagree. In 19/20, he ended theseason with 17 goals and 7 assists in 31 apps as a wide forward in the EPL. Far from a 'moments' player. He and Bruno were reliable.

As I said, it may be the case that he never gets near to those numbers, but I used De Gea as a reference to show its not impossible.
 
Sell Rashford on. 25 years of age, peak value in the market. Makes sense for all concerned. Dybala is free & and can play on the wing/centre much like Rashford, but at least offers far more creatively and can't offer any less defensively:lol:
 
The boys been damaged by the club and lofty ambitions of supporters. It wouldn't be the worst decision for him to move on and find love for the game again but I want him to stay and find his feet under the new manager.
 
Wilt said:
How about we let the incoming manager be the judge of whether we renew their contracts ….though that’s too logical for this board.
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Only at United do you get a new contract after not performing. It's why we are doomed no matter who we get as manager. I know that sounds negative but it's how I feel.
 
Wilt said:
How about we let the incoming manager be the judge of whether we renew their contracts ….though that’s too logical for this board.
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No. United fans want the technical director to decide stuff and manager to just coach the guys that are made available.

However, that is no reason to give an improved contract to someone who has been a dud recently and also seems completely lost.
 
Neither. Needs to figure his crap out and can still be a good player for us, but also doesn’t deserve a new contract. He should play better and earn higher wages.
 
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