Raphaël Varane

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Steven Seagull said:
Varane would be a guaranteed starter here every week. It would be like buying a young Ferdinand all over again.
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I am not convinced that he is on that level yet, not saying he couldn't reach that level in a few years, just that right now he is not as good as Rio was when we signed him.

He definitely would be an improvement on our current options I agree, but my personal preference would be a more senior figure who is less prone to mistakes
 
Red_Beans said:
nail. head.

The last thing we need is another defender with potential, we have enough of those already. At the moment I think CB is the only position where we need a new guaranteed starter, somebody with real authority and ball playing ability.

Has to be Godin or Hummels imo
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Varane every day of the week. As for Hummels and leadership qualities. He's broken every rule of what makes a good leader with his recent behaviour. There's no leader there!!
 
Looking fairly dodgy recently.

Every game i watch him he makes big errors and looks uncomfortable passing too.

As i said in the Laporte thread it is the reason that if we buy one more defender, it needs to be someone at his peak and a consistent starter to partner our other young improving talents.
 
He's always got one mistake in him like every young defender seems to. But he will improve and more importantly can stay fit.
 
FromTheBench said:
Looking fairly dodgy recently.

Every game i watch him he makes big errors and looks uncomfortable passing too.

As i said in the Laporte thread it is the reason that if we buy one more defender, it needs to be someone at his peak and a consistent starter to partner our other young improving talents.
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Name me a defender that doesn't make mistakes, experienced or not. The standard of defenders isn't what it was 8-10 years ago. There aren't that many team around that I'd say have a great defence, if any.
 
pocco said:
Name me a defender that doesn't make mistakes, experienced or not. The standard of defenders isn't what it was 8-10 years ago. There aren't that many team around that I'd say have a great defence, if any.
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Everyone makes mistakes but i am talking about consistency of mistakes. Say someone like Godin won't make as much as Varane and organize better.
 
Whilst I agree we need a leader at the back, you can't pass up the opportunity to sign this kid, he's got so much potential it's unreal. Having him & Otamendi at the back with Smalling/Jones/Rojo as back-up would be brilliant.
 
MkPaul said:
Whilst I agree we need a leader at the back, you can't pass up the opportunity to sign this kid, he's got so much potential it's unreal. Having him & Otamendi at the back with Smalling/Jones/Rojo as back-up would be brilliant.
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Absolutely Paul - Varane & Otamendi would mark a superb transfer summer for us & would finally be Rio & Vida's replacements..
 
Varane will be that guy we'll be linked to every season for the next 10 years, purely because we wanted him a few years ago so by extension we must still want him. The truth is Madrid would be silly to let him go and therefore probably won't.
 
bleezy said:
Varane will be that guy we'll be linked to every season for the next 10 years, purely because we wanted him a few years ago so by extension we must still want him. The truth is Madrid would be silly to let him go and therefore probably won't.
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So we have a new Benzema before the old one is even played out! The MEN will love it.
 
MkPaul said:
Whilst I agree we need a leader at the back, you can't pass up the opportunity to sign this kid, he's got so much potential it's unreal. Having him & Otamendi at the back with Smalling/Jones/Rojo as back-up would be brilliant.
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As brilliant as that would be, our only glimmer of hope of getting Varane is surely contingent on Real signing Otamendi. I can see us missing out on both, I'd be delighted with either.
 
Elliott said:
As brilliant as that would be, our only glimmer of hope of getting Varane is surely contingent on Real signing Otamendi. I can see us missing out on both, I'd be delighted with either.
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As much potential as Varane has, we need a seasoned experienced CB to lead and shore up the backline. Otamendi is there now however Varane is not quite there yet.
 
Red Hand Devil said:
Varane should not be our only addition. He should be the 2nd addition; with the 1st being a top-class proven seasoned CB & Otamendi fits that bill perfectly..
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I think Smalling has done enough to prove his worth and should be starting for us, Otamendi would compliment him well IMO.
Jones, Evans, Mcnair etc are good enough to be backups...ok maybe not Evans anymore.

I cannot see us buying 2 CB's, however I can see us buying 2 midfielders (Schneiderlin and either Gundogan or Bastian)
 
I'm guessing this is attempt number 3 from Woody to get a player in the De Gea deal.

Bale
Benzema
Varane
 
ravi2 said:
As much potential as Varane has, we need a seasoned experienced CB to lead and shore up the backline. Otamendi is there now however Varane is not quite there yet.
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You've got a point and I'd probably rather have Otamendi due to his experience, but first and foremost we need someone of sufficient quality with a proven fitness-record. And Varane may be young but he didn't just fall off the turnip truck; the number of games he's played for Real/France must be well in to triple digits by now.
 
He's the one player who we could realistically get from them that'd actually make losing de gea less painful. Absolutely superb talent.
 
I don't think he's better than Smalling currently, and I don't think potential-wise there's much of a difference, if at all. That said, if the Phil Jones experiment is deemed not to have worked out, he's the best thing we could do to replace him.
 
We can sign both Varane and Otamendi.
The Madrid link seems a bit 2+2 with rumours about selling Varane.
All those stories about approaching Otamendi early this year with him being eager to come here. I see it as us being front runners for the Valencia defender and maybe signing Varane if he becomes available.
 
Dunno how credible recent reports are, but IMO Madrid won't let him go.

Pepe is almost 33 years old, and showed signs of slight decline last season. Varane is perceived to be a key player for the future of Madrid along with the likes of James and Isco - he started the season slowly but regained a prominent role, starting 21 league games (27 total appearance in the league), to go with 11 Champions League starts - 3000+ minutes in total game-time for the club, which is a very healthy figure. He is arguably the best defensive prospect in Europe right now (with Marquinhos), and still just 22 years old. Plus, as long as Zidane is a part of Real's organisational structure, he won't allow Varane to leave. Afterall, he is a player he likened to Laurent Blanc, and played a big part in bringing him to Madrid.

PS : If and when Varane becomes available (highly unlikely), Mourinho would be all in for him. He even went so far as to classify him 'the best young defender in the world'. A defensive, detail oriented manager like Jose would be salivating at the prospect of Varane + Zouma shielding Courtois for the long term.
 
Not a chance in hell he leaves Real this summer. Otamendi is the one we should be focussing on (and probably are), at least he is realistic.
 
devil in me said:
Not a chance in hell he leaves Real this summer. Otamendi is the one we should be focussing on (and probably are), at least he is realistic.
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Why not? Plenty of rumors of him leaving and Real seems to have some defenders in mind as well.

I find it odd that people prefer Otamendi than him. Yes he's still young but already has plenty of experience for both club and country and has the physique to do good in prem as well.
 
Enigma_87 said:
Why not? Plenty of rumors of him leaving and Real seems to have some defenders in mind as well.

I find it odd that people prefer Otamendi than him. Yes he's still young but already has plenty of experience for both club and country and has the physique to do good in prem as well.
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Because Varane makes some right cock ups. That is the last thing we need, we have plenty of that type already. We need experience, someone who is a bit scary and a leader. With a new goalie as well, Varane could be a disaster. Real bought him young, probably too young, so it is them who need to show patience with him.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
Because Varane makes some right cock ups. That is the last thing we need, we have plenty of that type already. We need experience, someone who is a bit scary and a leader. With a new goalie as well, Varane could be a disaster. Real bought him young, probably too young, so it is them who need to show patience with him.
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So does Hummels. Otamendi as well has had 1 great season so far it's not that they couldn't be a gamble as well.

And Real show no patience, he will be much better at United under the right guidance.
 
He's the Ronaldo of CB's, a superior athlete like Ronnie with everything to become the very best IMO. I like him, Stones and Otamendi has grown on me, hopefully we get at least one.
 
Varane looks like a 'best in the world' sort of centre back in the making.

If we could snare him as part of the De Gea deal, I'll be absolutely delighted to see it happen.
 
Real are surely not about to do that kind of deal. If De Gea wants to join them he can do so next summer for nothing - could easily see them giving Casillas one more year and a send-off if we ask for too much. They would surely not consider losing one of their biggest young talents in this kind of situation.
 
Feed Me said:
Varane looks like a 'best in the world' sort of centre back in the making.

If we could snare him as part of the De Gea deal, I'll be absolutely delighted to see it happen.
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If Real are willing to let him go, he might not be as good as you think.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
If Real are willing to let him go, he might not be as good as you think.
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Why, because they're willing to let him go?

Sorry, but that club has a reputation for allowing top class players to leave.

Given his natural ability, age and the experience he has under his belt, I'd be absolutely ecstatic to get him in at United.
 
Real dump players as soon as the new shiny toy hits the market, and Varane is a CB, not usually an area Real seem to value as much.
 
I don't have a problem with Varane as such, but we need an Otamendi more. If we can get both that would be great. I just don't want Varane as our main CB signing.
 
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