I wont be fussed if he is gone this summer
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Thats what they say not what he does
TBF, he's barely missed any of this season to injury. He was benched for ages for no reason.
I wouldn't say 'no reason'.
He had already missed three of the first eight league games due to two different knocks (plus another where he had to go off at halftime due to injury), which is probably one of the reasons ETH was trying to use players who were more likely to stay fit. Then when he did play during those next two months he was mostly poor. Hell, even when he did come back in and was great against Liverpool, he instantly missed the very next match again through illness.
He's been an ever-present these last three months though, so it'll be disappointing if we lose him again now.
Hope he stays. My MOTM vs. Brentford.
Did he get a knock or was he substituted? The commentary team seemed to imply that him and Lindelof had knocks. For Lindelof it was obvious less so with him.
Is that behind every Brentford player?
Took a knock not long before half time and true to form he didn’t make it back out. Whether that was a precaution or more I’m not sure. No chance it was tactical, he was our best defender in the first half.
I know he is getting paid a monster wage but I wonder if he is enjoying this stage of his career.
He was at a club that has to be up there with the best of recent times and to put it mildly playing in a lot of games when he did not have to get out of second gear and still winning trophies regularly.
He is now at a club where he has to work his socks off in every game and the physical side has stepped right up and the climate is quite different as well and the team performances are up and down like a fiddlers elbow.
It would be interesting to bump into him in the local and have an honest conversation with him.
He was at a club that has to be up there with the best of recent times and to put it mildly playing in a lot of games when he did not have to get out of second gear and still winning trophies regularly.
He is now at a club where he has to work his socks off in every game and the physical side has stepped right up and the climate is quite different as well and the team performances are up and down like a fiddlers elbow.
It would be interesting to bump into him in the local and have an honest conversation with him.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ncussion-Man-United-Man-City-horror-show.html
This doesn't sound like he's having much fun to me. Sounds like he should be taking a leaf out of Angus Brayshaw's book and calling it a day.
This doesn't sound like he's having much fun to me. Sounds like he should be taking a leaf out of Angus Brayshaw's book and calling it a day.
That sounds terrible and like he should be putting his health first. Jeff Astle amongst many from the 60's and 70's whose brains showed effects of CTE should be stark warning; this mightn't be NFL or boxing, but repeated head trauma is proven to be devastating in this sport too.
All well and good being 'brave' but shaving years off your post-career health is about the most ill-advised thing you can do.
Is he out of contract at the end of this season? Would be madness for the club to give him another year.
Time for him to move on.
He stole to Man of the Match award, but it was petty theft.
It can't be easy for the manager when he knows the CB pairing that starts the game, will not be the one that finishes.
United have an easy-out this summer for one of the biggest earners in the squad...take it and move on.
United have an easy-out this summer for one of the biggest earners in the squad...take it and move on.
Has there ever been another team assembled with so many players who seem to fecking hate playing football? 
I would suggest playing football to the point where you give yourself a brain injury probably means you love playing.Has there ever been another team assembled with so many players who seem to fecking hate playing football?
Good on him for speaking out about head injuries.
What does he want? Heading the ball is part of football. Or does he want the rules to change?
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One of the dead wood we need to get rid of, way past his best.
Literally says what he wants in the article.
...and if he decides to push for a change in the rules then good for him. If my job was giving me a permanent brain injury I'd push for change too. Wouldn't you?
Football is a game. The rules can change, and discovering that the old rules are contributing to brain damage for the players is about the best reason for change I can imagine.
I say this regularly on here; many a sportsperson are their own worst enemy in terms of looking after themselves and the perception that you’re weak or letting others down is toxic machismo propagated by names as renowned as Mourinho who couldn’t care less for players and their health over the results he needs.
I have said the same thing. I will always blame managers and medical staff for putting players on a team sheet or overplaying them. They are the ones that can easily protect athletes.
As valid as it is from a safety point of view, the trouble for contact sports like Football, Rugby, American Football, Boxing, MMA... is, it's not just a tweak of the rules, which is always happening. It's changing a massive part of the whole essence of those contact sports.
How do you keep Football recognisable without aerial challenges and heading? That's just 'no over head height' stuff. How do you keep Rugby and American Football pretty recognisable without Tackling? That's just Tick Rugby. And where do you start with Boxing and MMA? Helmets, like in the Amateurs, I guess? But that still leaves those brutal sports with many dangerous possibilities for short / long term health issues.
I definitely acknowledge the potential health issues, and we live in an era where that's only going to get ever more significance. But I don't see how you continue those sports close to their current format if you genuinely address the problem? As it all involves such fundamental aspects of the contact sports.
One of Varane’s suggestions is to limit heading in training to a bare minimum, which to me sounds sensible. A big part of the problem is the sheer number of micro-concussions over the span of a career.
Another solution could be mandatory Cech-like helmets.
Agree but for pure fantasy's sake, imagine football without any aerial play?
It would be pretty wild as we may either have teams developing 11 x Messi's and/or Ibrahimovic's
I seem to remember that there is no proof that rugby helmets are useful for concussions. The main benefit in Rugby is to limit friction during scrums and avoid cauliflower ears. I could be wrong but the reason is that the padding isn't big enough and the brain is similarly banged against your skull.
Do we know if he's injured?
I saw earlier that he’s ruled himself out for the remainder of the season due to concussion. Probably bollocks though.
Nah he just did an interview on it.
Ah, I did find it weird that it wasn’t mentioned on here. This place is the fastest place for breaking news.
Misquote. He said he previously ruled himself out of games this season due to concussion symptoms, not that he's ruled himself out of the rest of the season.
Get rid in the summer.
Hopefully along with martial, rashford, greenwood, pellestri, antony, mctominay, casemiro, amrabat, eriksen, shaw, lindelof, wan bissaka, maguire, evans, malacia.
One can dream.
Hopefully along with martial, rashford, greenwood, pellestri, antony, mctominay, casemiro, amrabat, eriksen, shaw, lindelof, wan bissaka, maguire, evans, malacia.
One can dream.
The sport that Varane's son should be player is futsal, not football.
Probably better concussion protocols and less heading at youth level like many have previously suggested anyway
Rashford, Martial and Pogba under Mourinho/Ole
It was Ole. Under Mourinho their injury records were fine.
At least we now know why he rarely headed the ball for United. Type of comments you'd come out with once retired from the game.
He’s dead right. He needs to be replaced with someone who is entering their prime .
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