Leftback99
Oscar the Grouch.
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He was woeful. Definitely looked like the plan was to expose his lack of ability on the ball.
He was woeful. Definitely looked like the plan was to expose his lack of ability on the ball.
Which was exactly what Leeds wanted by the look of it. They let him have it.What were you watching? He was definitely not woeful, attempted and made the most passes by far of the entire team. Unlucky with the own goal and wasn't dispossessed once. Thought he played well but was let down by the midfield and Dalot.
He wasnt woeful. Not his standard self but woeful he was not.He was woeful. Definitely looked like the plan was to expose his lack of ability on the ball.
Yep. They pressed Martinez with far greater regularity than Varane. It worked a treat first half to just get Varane to concede possession:I feel like Leeds were trying to get the ball away from Licha and purposely letting Varane have it at times.
I feel like Leeds were trying to get the ball away from Licha and purposely letting Varane have it at times.
That’s what I’ve noticed as well, Varane inability to pass long was exposed last night when Leeds overpacked in the centre midfield.
I wouldn’t be surprised if ETH make a change / rotation for this weekend away to Leeds by bringing on Maguire who I thought has done well in his last few outings with his long balls to the wing.
He was a bit of a mess, would be tempted to start Lindelof or Maguire instead of him in the next game.
Absolutely mental. Varane has been near enough flawless all season when he's been fit, basically his first poor game of the season.That’s what I’ve noticed as well, Varane inability to pass long was exposed last night when Leeds overpacked in the centre midfield.
I wouldn’t be surprised if ETH make a change / rotation for this weekend away to Leeds by bringing on Maguire who I thought has done well in his last few outings with his long balls to the wing.
Absolutely mental. Varane has been near enough flawless all season when he's been fit, basically his first poor game of the season.
Maguire is not good on the ball. No idea how he still has a reputation as a ball playing centre back after what we've seen over the last 4 years.
Spot on. Lindelof or Maguire should have come on. They got the tactics right actually right . They knew we don't have the midfield for Varane to pass to and Varane isn't great with long balls. So they packed the midfield.That’s what I’ve noticed as well, Varane inability to pass long was exposed last night when Leeds overpacked in the centre midfield.
I wouldn’t be surprised if ETH make a change / rotation for this weekend away to Leeds by bringing on Maguire who I thought has done well in his last few outings with his long balls to the wing.
Yeah nah, @Leftback99 is spot on. Varane is a quality player but he was hot garbage last night. If Maguire or Lindelof put in that performance I guarantee you people are not going to be nearly as lenient.
If Maguire or Lindelof put in that performance it would just be another in a long line of performances like that from them. Varane is usually very good for us and that's why people are more lenient on him, as they should be.
When he produces hot garbage on a weekly basis then we can talk.
Yeah, obviously one game should not alter your perception of a player's quality. However, how you review a player's performance in any given game should equally not be dependent on their form coming into the game.If Maguire or Lindelof put in that performance it would just be another in a long line of performances like that from them. Varane is usually very good for us and that's why people are more lenient on him, as they should be.
When he produces hot garbage on a weekly basis then we can talk.
People always do that. The favourites will always get a pass. I'd estimate Varane had just as many bad games as Lindelof did last season, but his poor performances were blamed on the players around him. The favourites are given that excuse.Yeah, obviously one game should not alter your perception of a player's quality. However, how you review a player's performance in any given game should equally not be dependent on their form coming into the game.
The point I am making is that people who are claiming Varane was "not that bad" against Leeds are, in my opinion, applying a different standard when evaluating his performance in this specific match than they would Maguire or Lindelof in a given match and that doesn't make sense.
A world class forward. No point in denying it now.
Reminds me of Gareth Bale's last season at Spurs before moving to Madrid.
No VaraneAssuming this was meant for the Rashford thread.
Strong performance but that pass to Shaw leading to their goal was a gut punch.
Ah it could have been. Was trying to work out who it wasWasn't it Casemiro?
He had been a leader for France (and for us at times — like when Martinez was still hang over after the World Cup win). Different kind of leaders though.Eh..Varane is a good defender but he has never been a leader of defense. Always had one beside him doing such job (Ramos). Martinez was the main leader of defense. Things will improve once he's back and Varane becomes focused on what he does best.
I’m amazed that so many people damn him with faint praise. A consistently good performer who with Licha has transformed our defence. Long may it last.Outstanding yet again. Nothing to write home about except how bizarre that Varane is so consistent for us. I was really worried when he was felled with that injury right before the WC but he came back as sharp as ever before.