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Do you mean Varane is sick?
I have no idea who is saying that. When fit ,Varane is our best defender and hence the name Rolls Royce. The problem has been keeping him fit. Naturally, you won't see people appreciating his talent when he isn't playing
Yes. he didnt train today
Will he make the final?
Also what's the virus?
Also what's the virus?
Returning to play for Manchester United.
The French camp is being super secretive about it, but it could be the camel fever apparently.
Thanks, I'm not very knowledgeable about it, could he possibly recover fast enough to make the final?
He’s been good but not too busy and imo the other French defenders have stood out more. I thought Konate was really awesome last game. At the same time Varane’s style is not a style where you stand out, it is more about perfect positioning and good decisions, and that is not sexy.
Konate is proactive but also wild. As can be seen in the England game, were he looked like the worst version of Bailly. Varane has been more calm and collected.
I think you've mistaken konate with upamecano, konate didn't play in that game.
I always thought Konaté’s problem was his poor decision making but I think he has improved a lot. Last game he got most of it right and was really good. Varane looked calm but also a bit passive tbh, there was one shot in first half where he could have attacked better and also when he was dribbled in second half I thought he looked a bit passive. However those were the only two occasions annd that’s not much in a WC semi final, overall he was good although not as busy as the other defenders. I also think Varane takes a bigger responsibility I the NT when it comes to the build-up.
Upamecano is talented in many ways but an accident waiting to happen. Very poor decision making imo.
Upamecano was the one who played vs England and yes he was wild that game
Yes I do like the lad, and I'm watching out for him at bayern although so far his development has been less than stellar to say the least.
If you forced a prediction out of me I reckon konate will end up the better cb from the two.
Varane has always had low numbers in terms of tackles and overall defensive actions his entire career and it was never an issue with Madrid and France, he excles in aerial duels and clearances only if I am correct, which tells you he is more of sweeper and the one that ensures nothing gets by the defensive line , hence, I am not sure why are insinuating it could cause problems to France's defence (when you say it hasn't caused a problem to this point meaning it could potentially cause a problem). when the way Varane plays within Deschamps' style is exactly what is required of him, we have seen Varane also engage attackers high up in his defensive role under Ten Hag (Spurs game for example), so it would be conceivable that Varane can also play in a proactive style if that is what would be required of him by the manager, but he excels in the covering role which means Deschamps will make use of it.
Yes his grandmother was a camel so he has genetic antibodies. Should be fine.
(I honestly have no clue mate)
It's alright mate, was hoping to see varane in the final but it seems unlikely at this point.
It was reported he has mild symptoms, and whatever is going around seems like the recovery is pretty swift (Dembélé gave an interview about it). Not totally impossible he'll make it for Sunday.
It's alright mate, was hoping to see varane in the final but it seems unlikely at this point.
You are both right. My inner united fan was hoping it was Konate
.Thanks for the update, I hope he'll make it, im sure it would mean a lot to him playing his second WC final.
Hopefully not. MERS has a mortality rate of 30%.
Again not true. In his entire career he's had 1 competition where he made less tackles per game than this. The 2018 world cup where he was at 0.1 per 90 instead of the current 0.2
On the other end you have the 2014 World Cup where he made 1.9 tackle per 90 mins, 12/13 and 14/15 champions league where he made 2 tackles per 90 mins and 16/17 champions league where he averaged 2.2 tackles per 90 mins
His 1.1 interceptions per 90 so far this tournament fairs a bit better compared to his history. Its more than the 2014 and 2018 world cups where he averaged 0.5 per 90 mins, however he still has had 21 tournaments/leagues where he averaged more than that including 14/15 champions league where he averaged a huge 2.6 on top of the 2 tackles mentioned above. In the league that season for Madrid he averaged 2.3 interceptions. And in total 11 where he averaged more than 1.5 interceptions per 90 mins.
In the 2018 world cup he averaged 5.3 aerials. This time he averages 3.
So he's had tournaments where he has had low numbers, he's had tournaments and league seasons where he's had fairly high ball winning numbers. His numbers in the current world cup rank among the lowest he's ever had.
My point about it not costing yet is simple. He's not engaging, his teammates are which leaves him free to clear up when needed and he hasnt been needed much at all. If for example in the final he needs to sweep up and he doesnt get there or makes a mistake then his job hasnt been done. This is the problem with for example Lindelof trying to do something similar. If you're making your whole job be the last line of defence you cant get it wrong. Well you can but you have to pray your goalkeeper does something amazing. The point is you have no excuse for not getting it right because thats all you need to concentrate on when your teammates are the ones attacking and trying to win the ball further up the pitch.
If it doesnt cause a problem against Argentina then its obviously been completely fine. If it comes undone in the final maybe it was a weakness.
I'll defer to you when it comes to stats, I just had a quick glance at the Defensive Actions table in Varane's page in fbref and the overall numbers there for tackles and interceptions seemed low to me, hence why I said in my initial post that Varane's numbers in tackles are low overall, but I guess the bolded part of your post is the right assessment which supports my overall point being that Varane can also engage and what he is doing in this WC is by design (Deschamps' style)
And your point in general (passive defensive style causing a potential problems) is a valid one, my point is more to do with Deschamps style, what Varane is doing (covering and sweeping and not engaging) is clearly what the manager wants him to do, when France don't have the ball, they drop back and defend in a middle block or a low block and they keep spaces tight, only Mbappe stays up to be ready to attack, Varane's job is to cover and sweep while others engage with the opponents (not press high up but engage and keep spaces tight).
Even though I accept that a passive/disengaged defensive style has it's risks, you know also aggressive style causes risks too, France's goal against Morocco was due to the Moroccan defender (El Yamiq) attempt to nick the ball from Griezmann, but failed and left his space vacant which allowed France to attack and score a goal, even when Morocco had 3 defenders in the box after El Yamiq's mistimed lunge, they still couldn't prevent France from scoring.
I agree. If Liverpool can handle Konaté’s injuries, they might have the best CB in the league in a few years. However that’s a big “if”. I was actually surprised they went for him considering how much problems they have had with injured CBs.
If Varane adds another WC to his resume, he must have one of the best trophy hauls in the history of the game - not just for a defender but for any footballer. He’ll be rebranded World Cup Varane 
Only really big trophy he's missing (other than PL, not sure that happens at United over next few years) is Euros and France could win that in 2024, he'll still be around. Some career.If Varane adds another WC to his resume, he must have one of the best trophy hauls in the history of the game - not just for a defender but for any footballer. He’ll be rebranded World Cup Varane
Here’s hoping. Immense career!
feck sake Injured again
Looked more like he was knackered from playing so much
Think he was just knackered.
Looked like he was going to be sick?
Yeah he was just absolutely done
No surprises there...
Let’s fecking hope so.. We’ll probably give him some time off regardless but we could do without having him miss several months again.
tax, death, and varane is injured
Nah just tired
Sure, sure
I mean if you want him to be injured or something?!
He walked off and looked exhausted
Weird take, man. None of us know exactly what happen. But he did look injured to me. Able to walk off isn't a conclusive clue. If he looked exhausted for you, that's fine, man. I hope he is.
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